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09-28-2006, 08:15 PM
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You can look at the code of Zoints SEO yourself. It is very well written and optimized. 
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#12
09-29-2006, 04:27 PM
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Here's some feedback for each of your key points: 1. As some have stated, vBSEO is compatible with almost all major plugins. From time to time there have been small issues reported that are immediately corrected by dev. We take a non-intrusive approach to prevent these conflicts from occurring, and even have a CRR module (Custom Rewrite Rules) to allow you to integrate vBSEO with your other hacks, including converting many of their URLs from dynamic to static versions. 2. There have been no security exploits ever demonstrated with vBSEO code. In fact, keeping our code encrypted, helps prevent many developers from evaluating the code for exploits. I can assure you, we take security very seriously, and security auditing is a part of our internal testing procedure. This is also an area that our pre-release (live forum testing) team monitors very closely. 3. There are no known vBSEO exploits, although it has been reported that Google and other search engines perform massive exploitation of vBSEO-enabled forums by indexing and ranking huge portions of your content.  4. At this time we do require a *vBSEO branding notice* to be included. However, (a) rel=nofollow is applied on all interior page links preventing Google PageRank leak from becoming an issue, and (b) we provide un-linked options for you to choose from in your vBSEO configuration file. Recently, the team has been in discussions regarding our copyright policy, based on user feedback. Policy revisions will be announced in the near future. We power many large and highly hacked forums without issue.  Quote:
FYI Mod_rewrite is responsible for mapping incoming content relevant URLs (i.e. URLs with keywords) to the standard .php version. However, keyword insertion is handled by a server side script that processes page content in real-time. Every feature vBSEO has is first evaluated for performance impact. As a result, vBSEO has been tested and performed well on highly active forums with concurrent users in the 1000s, as well as more common concurrent usage rates. vBSEO 3.0 is the most light weight vBSEO version to date, even despite the important new features that we've added. As we announced today at the vBSEO forum, expect some *big* news coming from vBSEO in the very near future. That's all I can divulge for now.
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#13
09-29-2006, 10:23 PM
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With that said, nobody should pull the "vBSEO is encrypted so I can't evaluate it for exploits!" crap. All that is, is a BS means to attack vBSEO and their product. I would wager that 99.9% of the people who have uttered those words wouldn't know how to evaluate the vBSEO code for exploits even if it was open. Unfortunately, exploits happen. You can employ many of the best engineers in the world, have 3rd party security auditors, and take every other precaution you can, but in the end, bugs and exploits will arise. It is about how a company reacts when an exploit is found that people should comment on. The vBSEO team is working hard to create a quality product. I'm sick of seeing them attacked by people who are either clueless or have ulterior motives. The more choice forum owners have, the better. And vBSEO is providing choice. Shame on anyone who disparages a company or individual with baseless statements. "vBSEO is encrypted and I prefer not to use encrypted products on my forums" is fine. Other comments i'm seeing around the net reek of unprofessionalism, ulterior motives, lack of education, and/or simple immaturity. Just because forums empower you to speak your mind doesn't mean you should if all that is going to be uttered is garbage. Quote:
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It looks like we're all going to have to keep an eye on those patent filings First to 50 wins 
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#14
09-30-2006, 12:03 AM
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Now that's good discussion. I wish everyone could be as level headed and well mannered. Hell, it even makes me wish I was and certainly makes me wonder if I have been all wrong about you, David. I'm not going to revisit any old threads to analyze my thoughts, but I think the next discussion about Zoints I would like the chance to start over.
R'gards, Jim
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#15
09-30-2006, 01:55 PM
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This is an interesting thread.
I'm having a tough time deciding between vBSEO & Zoints. Zoints negatives:
VBSEO negatives:
Heh... this is not as simple as Wordpress, where SEO is already part of the system. That's the most unfortunate drawback of switching from Wordpress to vBulletin for my content management.
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#16
09-30-2006, 02:21 PM
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For vBSEO you cannot run an adult content site with vBSEO. I believe Joe will respond better then me for the license agreement but i want to comment on vBSEO's price. SEO is really an expensive thing. a regular vBulletin coder will charge you probably 10-20$ an hour but an SEO expert will charge you 70-80$ an hour. Because it requires hard work and you can have a return from your expenses you made to seo. 149$ is nothing while each other day you can start making more money from your board. I purchased vBSEO 7 month ago. The impact vBSEO did to my board cannot be explained. Only one example i had 21 k indexed pages at google then now i have more then 310 k. It may sound expensive but you are also paying 160 for vBulletin why ? because it is a good quality product. vBSEO is even better then vBulletin because vbulletin wont help you making mopre money but vBSEO does What happens if a free version does turn out to be better, or if Jelsoft makes SEO part of vBulletin? also do you really expect this ? People expected for a cms or a gallery hack for so long time from vBulletin. If you really do please continue hoping that
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#17
09-30-2006, 08:32 PM
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So you had 21k of indexed pages, you made more posts and more got indexed. No proof vbseo had anything to do with it.
As far as hard work goes you can rewrite a php page into html with 3 lines in the htaccess file. Then you just have to fiddl eabout with a few things
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#18
09-30-2006, 11:45 PM
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Although legal negotiations were required to close down one particular entity attempting to steal our code, the overall end result was positive. We noticed a sharp decline in the number of *speculations* by posters that vBSEO could contain "backdoors" or malicious code. We know that once any developer who was interested in vBSEO actually saw the code, they realized that it wasn't just clean, it's was 100% pristine! In this case, vBSEO is certainly NOT a gift-horse packaged with any internal surprises. No sir - all you get is thoroughbred, high octane, whitehat SEO solution that works! BTW It's really not very often that we discover a post from someone confused in this regard any more. For clarity to all, I want to re-emphasize that vBSEO has never been reported to contain any exploits whatsoever. We have a perfect trackrecord, and this is something that our team is very proud of. FYI We are planning to set aside some time to discuss the possibility of a non-encrypted or visible source code option for vBSEO. Whatever the decision, it will be announced to our forum members. Anyone interested can create an account on vBSEO to ensure you receive our email or PM announcements. Quote:
As per our Acceptable Usage Policy, pornographic forums are not eligible to install vBSEO. Apologies for the inconvenience. Quote:
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10-01-2006, 05:48 AM
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10-01-2006, 06:34 AM
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