Go Back   vb.org Archive > vBulletin 3 Discussion > vB3 General Discussions
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-13-2006, 07:54 AM
Kwak Kwak is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 154
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default Mods that have 'Database Changes'

Major Addition mods require 'DB Changes'
No harm done, I think.


If you add two major additional mods that have 'DB Changes' today, add more mods down the road with 'DB Changes,' is there a chance that the db changes will eventually collide with other changes, causing a fatal error with the forum?

Or does each mod add new database and changes its own database?

Explanation on the database is appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-13-2006, 08:26 AM
bashy bashy is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,544
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Hi m8

I am far from sql literate but from what i gather new hacks/mods either create new colums/sections whatever ya want to call them in the specific sections of the database,

They can also add on some of the existing sections as well

e.g. the USERS section of the database has numerous sections/colums and if the section coloum that is not there they will add the section such as a points system, this will have its own little part in the USERS section of the database....

As far as i am aware nothing drastic ever really happens if theres a conflict, perhaps the odd sql error and usuall if you go back to the coder where you got the hack from they will either fix the error (conflict) or point you in the direction of the previous coder that thier hack is conflicting with, either way the majority of the time there is a fix....

Does this make sense to you...caus eit dont to me, it just sounded good as i was typing it

I am sure some one else can explain it better than me but mine is a=in laymans terms though
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-13-2006, 04:23 PM
Kirk Y's Avatar
Kirk Y Kirk Y is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tallahassee, Florida
Posts: 2,604
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

If two hacks created identical SQL Tables, then you'd have a problem. But that rarely happens.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-13-2006, 05:04 PM
Paul M's Avatar
Paul M Paul M is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 23,748
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Pretty much all vb mods (that have database changes) either add new tables to the existing database, or new columns (fields) to an existing table (I don't know of any that don't).

It is rare for two such mods to clash, but it's possible. It's also possible for them to clash with future changes to vb itself - for example, the 'warnings' field added to the user table in 3.6 clashed with a field created by the AWO mod for previous versions of vb.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-14-2006, 12:12 AM
Code Monkey's Avatar
Code Monkey Code Monkey is offline
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,080
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

That's why it's important that mod creaters add a little complexity to table and collumn names. More so than they would for a stand alone application. For example, a collumn called warnings is far more likely to have a problem now or down the road than one called hackname_warnings.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.12 by vBS
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
X vBulletin 3.8.12 by vBS Debug Information
  • Page Generation 0.03565 seconds
  • Memory Usage 2,199KB
  • Queries Executed 13 (?)
More Information
Template Usage:
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_header_end
  • (1)ad_header_logo
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_beforeqr
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)navbar
  • (3)navbar_link
  • (120)option
  • (5)post_thanks_box
  • (5)post_thanks_button
  • (1)post_thanks_javascript
  • (1)post_thanks_navbar_search
  • (5)post_thanks_postbit_info
  • (5)postbit
  • (5)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (5)postbit_wrapper
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available:
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files:
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/modsystem_functions.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php
  • ./includes/functions_post_thanks.php 

Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • init_startup_session_setup_start
  • init_startup_session_setup_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_postinfo_query
  • fetch_postinfo
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • showthread_getinfo
  • forumjump
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_end
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_start
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_end
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_start
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_end
  • fetch_musername
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • post_thanks_function_can_thank_this_post_start
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • showthread_complete