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MJM · #**161** 06-17-2006, 10:33 PM

Freddie I'm glad to hear you have 'scouts' here at vB.org to keep you updated ... in particular of our most wanted wish lists.
It became tiring a long time ago to post requests into vB.com AND also post them here, with the hopes that someone here might be interested in tackling the request.

I'm not sure how you gauge from customers what they feel the most wanted of features are ... It certainly should not be based on replies to suggestions as many like myself are too busy with our own site to scan through the (current) listing of 7,765 threads in the Suggestion Forum.
... and it might cause an overload to your servers if it was necessary for us to reply to every wish with 'I want this', in order for it to get top priority.

I've suggested in the past of adding a poll to any suggestions that might be do-able so that we could express our opinion of a suggestion without the need to reply to every post.
Also please consider having a pre-beta survey of sorts, itemizing possible inclusions in the next release.

My understanding and acceptance for the somewhat lag (in my opinion) in the introduction of some features at vB.com over the years is because a considerable amount of effort was needed to be put in the development of the backbone of this software, which I am extremely pleased with.
And vB.org has served very well as a place where customers who've wanted to take this software to new levels can exchange ideas and test-run applications and so forth.

I have no clue personally if this software has reached a milestone, or whether version 4 or 5 will require a major revamp as did ver 2 to 3.

Whatever ... vB.org has been an invaluable partner in the development of this product despite what a very small handful of very vocal critics might say.
Here's to wishing vB.org /vB.com a continuing and positive collaboration in the development of this product.

For many of us, the lives we have made for ourselves through the use of this product depends on this.

Best wishes,
Mark

Revan · #**162** 06-17-2006, 11:15 PM

Just my $.02:
I honestly did think that developers came here and used our hacks as inspiration (not to steal code, obviously they code their own), and therefore I thought "cool, my soft deleted archive got included. Would be cool to have gotten a PM about it tho." because seriously, how cool wouldnt it be to get an official PM stating that a hack concept you use is being included in the defauly vBulletin ^_^
But Im not about to go cry in the corner just because I had to find out on my own

Whether or not Jelsoft uses our hacks as inspiration, as a hacker who got at least one of his hacks added to stock vBulletin (though in another form, but you know what I mean :P) I say that it feels really great. It makes me feel like what I spent hours upon hours on coding was actually worth a damn to the general public, not just forum type specific such as the RPG. Im glad that Im able to write something beyond Monster Battles

//peace

ubblite · #**163** 06-17-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Revan

What you are basically saying is that since we paid for Windows, we should get all Windows based software for free.

lol, you have completely assumed all the wrong things about my post. This is the last time I will explain it to you in a slightly different way and maybe you will understand.

From a BUSINESS standpoint, it makes sense in that VB staff knows hacks which can be had for no cost are a valuable resource to the potential buyer who is shopping for BBS software. Now read closely; I have NO problem with people charging for hacks, as a matter of fact I have purchased a few for myself, all I'm saying is you have to look at it from VB's perspective, too.

Christine · #**164** 06-17-2006, 11:19 PM

I would be surprised if most popular hacks here weren't posted at some point on the suggestions forum at vb.com. I know that in many cases, suggestions there became hacks here as Andreas did a few of them in the last year alone based on threads over there.

I remain surprised that this is even a discussion item though. Must just be me.

FASherman · #**165** 06-17-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TECK

1. No paying hacks allowed. If you want to make money, you are not welcome to advertise your products at vB.org site, in links, any way or shape of promotion schemes.

Gotta disagree bigtime on this one. When there is something I want for my site, I want the option of buying a program rather than waiting 6 months to a year for a hack to mature into what I need.

Plus we have to accept responsibility for paid programs. Some of the developers released code that made for their own site and were perfectly happy with it. They released it just so others could benefit.

Then the bugs are found, new features are requested and before long, they're working on code to the extent that it takes as much time as a part time job.

I don't care whether a list of paid add-ons is maintained here or at VB.Com, but their should be one place where we can look for paid code when the free code here isn't what we need.

Besides, if you take such a hard line, why should anyone with paid code release lite versions here?

Wrap your heads around this. Not everyone running a VB site is a hobbyist. Some are legitimate business sites, revenue producers or support sites and we don't have to take the cheapsake approach. Both types of users should be accomodated,

smacklan · #**166** 06-18-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FASherman

Wrap your heads around this. Not everyone running a VB site is a hobbyist. Some are legitimate business sites, revenue producers or support sites and we don't have to take the cheapsake approach. Both types of users should be accomodated,

Well said, but here at the org we are pariahs, so to speak.

Freddie Bingham · #**167** 06-18-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Revan

Just my $.02:
I honestly did think that developers came here and used our hacks as inspiration (not to steal code, obviously they code their own), and therefore I thought "cool, my soft deleted archive got included. Would be cool to have gotten a PM about it tho." because seriously, how cool wouldnt it be to get an official PM stating that a hack concept you use is being included in the defauly vBulletin ^_^

I also coded the moderated/soft deleted threads feature. I didn't really think it warranted a high placement on the feature list but Kier wanted a global place to manage soft deleted threads. Our original plan was to merge the modcp into the admincp and make it all permissions based. We've since changed that plan to not allow moderators into the admincp to perform actions they currently do from the modcp. We are sure a fair number of complaints would be made about possible security breaches if moderators are allowed in the same code base as administrators.

I've always hated the modcp and thought that all of that stuff should be moved to the front end so the new plan is to merge the modcp into the user cp. The soft deleted feature was to go into the modcp but I suggested that we should put it in the usercp now and avoid having to move it in the future. I also suggested that we should add moderated threads since both features could share code base rather easily. I'm sorry to say but I wasn't aware there was a hack to manage deleted threads already.
So if there exists a hack to add moderator abilities into the mod cp, be forewarned, we aren't stealing it from you when 4.0 is released

Of course, many suggestions made to us at vbulletin.com stem from users using them first as modifications from this site so your code does serve as inspiration in a round about way for many features.

Christine · #**168** 06-18-2006, 12:54 AM

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