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Old 06-08-2006, 01:34 AM
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Default Complete MediaWiki/vBulletin 3.5 integration: is this possible?

I've seen a lot of hacks and kludges for vBulletin/Mediawiki integration, but most seem to fall short - it might be a collection of mods with no step-by-step instructions on making the whole things work, or it may be an awkward bridge that requires separete logins, or it may require user name changes to remove characters MediaWiki chokes on.

I don't think I can be the only one who is DESPERATELY seeking a true integration of MediaWiki or any other MySQL/PHP-based wiki with vBulletin 3.5, similar to what was done with vbDrupal, or similar to the integration in commercial software like PhotoPost. This is what I'm looking for:

1) It has to be real integration; not a bridge, and more than just simple user authentication.

2) The wiki uses the vBulletin user database, and ranks and permissions system. It's not something where vBulletin login information is copied to the wiki database, and users may have to log into both, or automatic side-by-side logins. Rather, it should be like the Drupal and Photopost integration, where it's completely seamless from the user's standpoint.

3) Existing users won't have to change their names. Some bridges and integration hacks require that vBulletin users change their names to remove spaces and other characters that would be invalid in the wiki's namespace.

4) The wiki isn't an old-school system that still uses CamelCase, where visible links within an article can't have any spaces (WikkiTikkiTavi, ErfurtWiki, PhpWiki, others). I want to link to articles about urban planning and form-based codes, not UrbanPlanning or FormBasedCodes.

5) The wiki won't break when vBulletin is upgraded. The wiki should be easly updated, too.

6) No vBulletin code is altered.

Is this even technically possible?
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:59 PM
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I would love to have this for my site and would be willing to pay for it if it had the integration like VBA gallery does.
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Old 06-10-2006, 04:14 AM
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Same thing here. I'm thinking of taking up a collection among my users to help pay for this - if anyone is willng to program it. Unfortunately, it seems like RPG and arcade hacks are more popular among vB hack/plugin authors than integration with other scripts; does that mean there's more demand for them?
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Old 06-10-2006, 05:25 AM
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I guess the best thing would be to get an estmate on what it would cost for someone to develop it. Then we could see if there would be enough people who would be willing to split the cost.
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Old 06-11-2006, 02:19 AM
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Dumb question, but where would we post this? Service requests?
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Old 06-11-2006, 03:21 AM
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That would be the spot for it. A vbwiki would be great... I've been wondering if logicians webtemplates couldn't serve the same purpose?
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:04 AM
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3) Existing users won't have to change their names. Some bridges and integration hacks require that vBulletin users change their names to remove spaces and other characters that would be invalid in the wiki's namespace.
from my understanding, this is down to how media wiki is coded, and short of majour cold alterations to mediawiki you wont be able to achieve this point.
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Old 06-11-2006, 08:04 AM
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Thats going to be more someone coding it from scratch than intergrating it with mediawiki.
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Old 06-11-2006, 04:33 PM
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from my understanding, this is down to how media wiki is coded, and short of majour cold alterations to mediawiki you wont be able to achieve this point.
There's an IPB/Mediawiki integration project that is more-or-less seamless, and doesn't have the namespace problems current vB hacks have. It's a bridge, but still better than any of the spit-and-bailing-wire hacks available for vBulletin. Why would the namespace issue be such a problem for vBulletin integration, but not IPB?

I would definitely pay for a similar product for vBulletin. Still, who would it be technically possible for IPB, but not vBulletin?

Seriously, do we really need another RPG or "list users who have viewed the FAQ today"-style hack? Hack authors, I'm begging you - WORK ON REAL MEDIAWIKI INTEGRATION!

EDIT: waiting for the bot that responds to all of these integration threads with "Have you tried vBAdvanced?"" in three ... two ... one ..
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Old 06-13-2006, 06:29 PM
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hey, have you tried vbadvance? It awfull!

No, for real: i did often see integrations of the Calitrix-Wiki. This seems to work very well like on http://boardunity.de
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