Time To Speak Up?

[Ramsesx]

Sorry to say that, but for me it's looking that some people were expecting to get staff members and because this doesn't happen are mortally offended about this.

[Tim Skellett]

Originally Posted by Corriewf

I think you are personally baiting!

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I want you to quote someone's post that is hassling a staff member. I want you to back up your opinion.

Go back and re-read this post far earlier in the thread.

Much more of these things and I'm going to suggest that we have an enforced moratorium on "You Folks Suck, Nyah nayh nyah" -type threads; it's simply destructive with no redeeming value at this time.

[soniceffect]

Originally Posted by geo

I agree with some of the things you've said, but i just can't seem to comprehend how you can come out of no where and try and judge the situation so heavily.

I`m sorry but I disagree with that comment entirely. The comment don`t judge a book by it`s cover springs to mind. Just because my post count is not 2000+ does not mean I dont read the majority of the threads here, and as a member of the forums I have every right to judge a situation as heavily as I choose in a diplomatic way, the same as any other member. This is the kind of comment that only adds to the "Usergroup Vs Usergroup" mentality that everyone is trying to stop.

Dont get me wrong, I aint on anyones 'side' be it staffs, members, coders, people who was comercial, whatever. Its just from reading the posts, it just doesn`t seem like anyone gives it enough time for things to change before the subjects get jumped on again.

Originally Posted by Tim

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What can I say.. I couldn`t agree more

[Freesteyelz]

Originally Posted by Corriewf

No one is saying gimme gimme gimme now!

Maybe not but the way it's coming across is suggesting otherwise.

[Ohiosweetheart]

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

I am treating you with the same respect that you give me and all the staff here. Sorry but if the shoe fits. That is all I really have to say about the matter. At this point, I honestly don't care whether you like me or not or want to associate with me. Want to bring things out in the open, then so be it.

If you were truly indignant about my private message, then you would have kept it private instead of showing it proudly just to prove how persecuted you are. And the only reason your post was quoted is because the link added it for some reason and I forgot to delete it. The Private Message is about more than that one post, but your general attitude in general.

And yes, the cursing was out of line. I apologize for that. It is just very frustrating that whenever I get a little time to be with my wife, something is happening on this site that pulls me away. Now I have a pissed wife and am awaiting a very unpleasant evening.

Wow... you're being patient Wayne. A member on MY site quoting a pm for all to see, whether the pm is from a member or staff, gets an IMMEDIATE ban.

Originally Posted by Freesteyelz

Here's a curious thought...

To use vB.org is a privilege. Where does the right come in?

agreed. The only time you have a "right", imo, is if you own the site. All the rest is just a privilege

Originally Posted by Mark.B

Please everyone can all this arguing be stopped?

It keeps going on and on, thread after thread. Things are never going to be perfect on a site like this, all of us are admins in our own right and we of all people should really know this.

New licence holders coming here now, I despair for what they see and what they think of it.

I have great sympathy for both sides' points of view, but as things are, it isn't ever going to get resolved to mutual satisfaction. I would urge those who can do so to try and compromise, accept flaws in the other side, and carry on with the site. (That's coders AND staff). I would also urge anyone who doesn't feel able to do so, to back away from the site gracefully, sad as that will be.

As a vB user I greatly appreciate the efforts of ALL - staff and coders alike - please do not let this "war" carry on any longer.

For most this is a hobby. Take an honest look at yourselves, and if it seems that it's got a bit more serious than a hobby and it's all a bit much, please step back for a bit.

I come to this site for modifications and modification discussion. All there is the last month or so is all out war. Those involved may not realise how unseemly it looks.

VERY well said!

Originally Posted by Ramsesx

Sorry to say that, but for me it's looking that some people were expecting to get staff members and because this doesn't happen are mortally offended about this.

Though some have said this is not the case... to me and many, MANY others, it does appear that way. "I wasn't chosen to be on staff and I'm jealous because some who were chosen aren't as good as I am" does seem to be the attitude.
And the "things aren't happening as fast as I want them to" and "we're not being told what's going on fast enough" attitudes are getting OH so tiresome. Impatient people who can't give the new staff time to get settled into their new positions, who seemingly want to KEEP things stirred up, are nothing short of childish.

Newsflash... The teams are still being assembled... that's been posted many times over. But, sorry to say, for those who wanted to be team members, and who keep posting these moronic threads, your chances of being a team member are getting slimmer by the day. Your fault and noone else's