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#21
08-04-2004, 11:00 AM
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Emmy2, you're right...
 btw, a vbulletinforhire.com will exist in no long, as soon as i finish to build the forum i plan for such a featured site... coders will be able to announce their capabilities like freelancers, and clients will be able to start reverse-auctions for coders to answer... also, commercial integrations will be advertised, coders will have the place to display and release their commercial tools, and some other features will come in time. reason for this site: vB guys are right with the troubles it may bring to have commercial or paid hacks on their community... but if it's independant, external to the free community, there is no trouble... we will have commercial rules on the site, and there will be no flaming, no trashing and no kiddies... we already have some good coders interested to manage their forums, some companies interested to have a place to advertise their commercial non-free products... so this will answer the requests of such threads here... because it's not the first time we read about the subject, and there was not a single line for a solution yet, so i take the lead. 
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#22
08-04-2004, 01:49 PM
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my personaly opinion is that it would force prices of paid work to be standardised due to the officiality of it, their would be more transparency and that's a good thing, the only way to do something like this without it affecting the amount and type of free hacks available would be to have a quota system, if you've released XX amount of hacks + XX posts, you can advertise your services/hacks/programs here. and then have the commision thing as well. i love free hacks but also don't mind reasonably priced add-on's as that promotes indivuality, like filburt said in another thread (on vb.com infact) people tend to use stuff just cos it's there, look at the arcade, how many forums have them, just cos they're there, not that they fit with the site (i ad-lib'd that heavily) so yeah, for exclusivity it's good but it's all down to implementation really
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#23
08-04-2004, 02:21 PM
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your comparaison with the arcade is false sabre@...
the Arcade team is to release a PRO version that will not be free, just because the clients requests more features, and the more you ask from a coder, the more you face the fact that your tool will not be free anymore. PRO version of the Arcade will contain network play, more features, more stats, more enhancements, and this can't be counted as free because you require more. when you go to a restaurant and ask for a hamburger, you pay for it... let's say 1$ for a basic hamburger... if you want the deluxe version, will you have it the same price just because you already have the bread and the slice of beef ?! no, you will pay double the price just to add more stuff in it... ask Mcdonalds, BurgerKings, and all the others... you ask for more, you pay for it, and each company will offer a different price because it's not a hardcoded rule... you pay depending on the taste you want. there is no possibility of standardisation of the prices of code releases, because not all the codes are released by the same guy... best example is photopost and albinator... same price, not the same features, and they offer two different ways to integrate with vB... why just one have the right to be advertised here ?! Albinator have a better integration of the script, as you can create forums that will be albums... photopost don't... it's 100% external even with a minimum of integration... the guy that created http://www.dlman.com/, the only script that permit to have a paypalized downloader linked to vB permissions system... they have a basic version, and a pro with a shopping-cart integrated... they can't release it even with a load of requests regarding such features here... and nobody knows about the script just because commercial hacks are not permited here... but how many guys here would be happy to hear from this !!! the question is not only regarding coders that do free or non free job, but for commercial tools that would give some real enhancements to the system most of the comments i've read about the subjects are made from guys that have fan sites, no real incomes from their community, no real possibility to pay for the stuff... it's correct... but you forget commercial sites, big companies that buy vB and have a lot of requests for specialised tools... if they would be informed of these commercial hacks, they would tend to buy more vB licenses because the vB tool would answer more of their requests... many times i see guys not buying vB because it have a lack of integration with their actual community... they need more tools, more professional content... these tools exists in many ways, but are not advertised because is not permitted to do so... Jelsfot would gain by advertising commercial tools... like Apple and Microsoft that advertise for external companies that have built extensions to their localised systems... just think of all the new iPod technology... more than 45 commercial products were released in the last 3 months because iPod software is free and companies can advertise by offering non-free softwares that answer clients requests... iPod software is free(not the walkman though), and more, the system is OS-X based and Apple gained a lot of clients... like BMW and Porsche that have now an built-in integration of the tool in their cars... just because rich guys requested it, and now we have more mostly-free tools for it because it's permitted to advertise commercial tools for it. if i can release my non-free stuff here, i will be pleased to release also the 100+ hacks i've built in the last 4 months... most of them are to be free because they are minimal, but useful... but i will not if i can't make some cash to pay back the job done.. i prefer to give these hacks to clients that pay for my work... as the Jelsoft guys... they release free hacks once the software is sold, but remember that most of the guys here also have non-free codes released somewhere... -- i suggest to let the clients decide by themselves... they can make their own oppinion... we're not with Uncle Sam here.
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#24
08-04-2004, 10:32 PM
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and someone could make a thread about dlman, just the site owner can't, i made a thread about two products the other day in the lounge.
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#25
08-04-2004, 11:43 PM
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#26
08-24-2004, 09:29 AM
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If you guys need any help setting up or managing the forums, just let me know. you can communcate with my most effectivly over email. brett-hinkle@horizonsbeyond.com Brett
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#27
08-24-2004, 03:47 PM
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as much as I would like to get paid for hacks and advertise my services here at vbulletin ... I think it would be a bad idea to initiate something like this here.
vbulletin.org is popular 'cause of one reason--free hacks. vbulletin.com has grown partly becuase of the popularity of vbulletin.org. Adding any kind of "paid hack" services will just add to overhead. Less quality free hacks will be available--they will be offered as paid hacks.
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#28
11-08-2004, 02:02 AM
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Something to be mindfull of... If you pay for someone to do a hack for you then YOU own the Intellectual property of that coding/effort. The person who wrote it for you cannot on-sell or use it elsewhere unless specifically granted by the person/company paying for the custom work.
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#29
11-08-2004, 05:41 AM
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As a coder I can also be payed for my time, and just lease him the right to use my modification...
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