vbulletin has gotten so quiet

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by Brad.loo

I spend a lot of my time in the admincp over there, currently doing a lot of work on my vBt dev board to. I know im not as active in the forums as I used to be over there but that can only be expected most of the admin work over there now a days.

thanks for finally reading my post and i appreciate your admin work that you're doing, but please keep an eye on the feedback forum

[Brad]

Originally Posted by sabret00the

thanks for finally reading my post and i appreciate your admin work that you're doing, but please keep an eye on the feedback forum

I always do, just sometimes forget to post as im in and out most of the day, if you fell you need to nag me about something you can always send me a private message.

[sabret00the]

will do

[Tony G]

Originally Posted by sabret00the

vBT is a graveyard, and although Tony seems to be active, from my visits i tend to get the general impression that Zack is the only one really doing owt over there, i mean Brad's more active over here and on .com than he is there, a good example of that ocmmunity being dead is here. Saying that though i do think Brad's the man for vBT, i just think he needs more support from Jelsoft and also some additional active staff in the mould of Zach.

I know I used to do alot more support before, but I have entered my 2nd last year of High School, where homework comes in the truckloads and sometimes my job can get in the way too. I just have alot of outside things holding me back from supporting in every single thread, but when I get a good hour to browse around vBT, I try to help as many people as I possibly can. Zach isn't bogged down by things like school, so he has the time to openly support people. It isn't my fault that things like going to school occur in life, but they take up time, and the only way to manage my homework is to cut back a bit on the internet. I just hope you realise it's not because I don't "feel" like it or I don't want to, but I do my best for the time that is given to me. Plus I also moderate other forums which I need to visit, which makes it harder.

But I will try harder to support around vBT more, as Zach probably doesn't like doing the majority on his own.

Thanks for reading.

[sabret00the]

heh, everyone has other issues, sadly it's a fact of life that can't be changes, good luck on passing your second year of School though

as i originally said though, in order for vBT to get a huge buzz and take on a life of it's own, it does need more staff, theirs alot of XHTML/CSS gurus around but they don't post on vBT

[Brad]

Originally Posted by sabret00the

heh, everyone has other issues, sadly it's a fact of life that can't be changes, good luck on passing your second year of School though

as i originally said though, in order for vBT to get a huge buzz and take on a life of it's own, it does need more staff, theirs alot of XHTML/CSS gurus around but they don't post on vBT

I second the good luck, thats when I gave up on the school system and dropped out

We are always trying to improve, currently we are looking to add some more things to the site itself that deal with the vBulletin style editor and templates. vBulletin 3 is a lot more forgiving on the template end but no one has really gone all out and shown what it can do yet, we want to teach people how to use the new style system and tricks they can employ into their code to avoid hacking amoung other things. ATM we are building the system this content will live on, and we hope to allow everyone to contribute to it (with moderation of course)

[13th_Disciple]

Originally Posted by amykhar

Another difference is that sitepoint isn't a leach site. It's a site where people with similar interests talk. This site has been overwhelmed with people who don't code and who have no intention of ever coding. They just want to download hacks, not read the instructions and then scream and yell for help or more features.

Pretty bad thing to say from someone who is/was in a position of support for either this site, vB.com or vB software itself.. while I understand the issue, you have to understand that some people have neither the time nor the inclination to code.. that is no excuse for not reading instructions, but seeing as some instructions come from some people with a small grasp on the english language itself, much less the idea of the context of words, it was in fairly poor taste to state it like that..

but that is also exactly one of the reasons people have slacked off here.. immediate comments like that as well as the harsh comebacks of so-called mods, admins, support folks and ill willed hackers themselves.. all of us have bad days.. those in a support role can't afford bad days when those bad days are directly focused towards the customer themself..

[filburt1]

Originally Posted by 13th_Disciple

Pretty bad thing to say from someone who is/was in a position of support for either this site, vB.com or vB software itself.. while I understand the issue, you have to understand that some people have neither the time nor the inclination to code.. that is no excuse for not reading instructions, but seeing as some instructions come from some people with a small grasp on the english language itself, much less the idea of the context of words, it was in fairly poor taste to state it like that..

but that is also exactly one of the reasons people have slacked off here.. immediate comments like that as well as the harsh comebacks of so-called mods, admins, support folks and ill willed hackers themselves.. all of us have bad days.. those in a support role can't afford bad days when those bad days are directly focused towards the customer themself..

Amy's point remains valid. The last thing that those who do not know how to code should do is...edit code.

I prefer to think of it as "telling it as it is" and staying directly on the point. Sorry if you see it other ways.

[13th_Disciple]

You then rule out probably 75% or more people who have vbulletin software if those who can't code shouldn't modify said code with edits.. it is indeed my opinion.. and telling it like it is, is all well and fine, but sometimes it's better just to use tact, as was mentioned earlier..

[Boofo]

As valid as Amy's point might be, it still was a little harsh. No one enjoys being talked down to and that seems to go on a lot around here. Those in the coding know seem to think they shouldn't have to answer any stupid questions or questions that any newbie ought to know, but they forget they asked the same kind of questions and didn't know squat about vb code when they first started either. I see that as more of the problem with what's going on around here than anything else.