Lofl

[Wayne Luke]

My position is as a Liaison between the Jelsoft Staff and the staff of these other forums. vBulletin.org is owned by Jelsoft, hosted on our servers and run by us. Previous oversight has not been sufficient to meet the needs of both the staff and members here. That is where I come in.

The role will be to oversee and help the staff here with issues as well as make the release of future hacks easier. Eventually, I will work with the staff here to promote this site, build its traffic and make it more community oriented instead of just a repository of hacks. Member input will also be sought along the way because it is the members who make the community thrive. As I put it somewhere before, the members are the spirit of the community.

There will be some changes and some improvements to existing sytems but only with cooperation from the community, the local staff and Jelsoft.

[Floris]

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

My position is as a Liaison between the Jelsoft Staff and the staff of these other forums. vBulletin.org is owned by Jelsoft, hosted on our servers and run by us. Previous oversight has not been sufficient to meet the needs of both the staff and members here. That is where I come in.

The role will be to oversee and help the staff here with issues as well as make the release of future hacks easier. Eventually, I will work with the staff here to promote this site, build its traffic and make it more community oriented instead of just a repository of hacks. Member input will also be sought along the way because it is the members who make the community thrive. As I put it somewhere before, the members are the spirit of the community.

There will be some changes and some improvements to existing sytems but only with cooperation from the community, the local staff and Jelsoft.

Piracy can be reported here: http://www.vBulletin.com/piracy.php

[JohnXWA]

This was never an attack on Wayne, this has to do with what I see as general degeneration of VB.

An ideal VB hack site would not be owned by Jelsoft in anyway, something to think about for people who have the resources to do it.

[filburt1]

Originally Posted by JohnXWA

This was never an attack on Wayne, this has to do with what I see as general degeneration of VB.

An ideal VB hack site would not be owned by Jelsoft in anyway, something to think about for people who have the resources to do it.

I would think the ideal site would be associated with Jelsoft considering hacks cannot exist without vBulletin. No offense, but it simply sounds like you have a personal problem with Jelsoft itself. Jelsoft's control over vB, loose as it is at times, is perfectly understandable.

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by JohnXWA

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99865

Shame. Jelsoft in a matter of weeks have managed to degrade my rating of the company.

Jelsoft, no longer #1. Time to reconsider forum software when its time to renew, various events such as the time VB3 took, to importers and now this. I think a hack site without any direct Jelsoft input is needed.

Shame....

interested, everyone bar you seems to see this appointment as one for the better and you see it as a negative.

was it like this when the lockdown hack was banned?

[Hurricane]

I just want to know why it is that people feel Jelsoft owes them anything more than what they paid for?

What I am saying is that when you buy your copy of VB, that is all you are entitled to! You are not guarenteed the right to hack it, the right to complain about it, the right to say what the company can and can not do. Just be fortunate that you can purchase a copy of this wonderful software.

On the other hand, if you can not deal with it, or you feel Jelsoft owes you anything above and beyond what you paid for, then I say to you... Don't let the front door hit you on the way out.

[SVTBlackLight01]

I have to say that I can sense a positive change in the general atmosphere around here already. The changes that are being made to "rescue" vb.org have been good, IMO, and have had a positive impact. I'm looking forward to seeing this place get back to how it used to be and better.

(Or maybe everyone is just happy that Gold has finally been released )

[Xenon]

Or maybe everyone is just happy that Gold has finally been released

This is really an important factor, which lead to a calm down of users as well as developers

[noppid]

I'd believe this was a good thing if posts critical of jelsoft and the mods here were left open for discussion. If you won't listen to the critisism, how can you change things?

I don't get it!

It appears more like damage control then change.

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by noppid

I'd believe this was a good thing if posts critical of jelsoft and the mods here were left open for discussion. If you won't listen to the critisism, how can you change things?

I don't get it!

It appears more like damage control then change.

what posts/threads are you referring too?