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Shame. Jelsoft in a matter of weeks have managed to degrade my rating of the company.

Jelsoft, no longer #1. Time to reconsider forum software when its time to renew, various events such as the time VB3 took, to importers and now this. I think a hack site without any direct Jelsoft input is needed.

Shame....

Wayne has been here for a while behind the sceens, your always welcome to try, its been tried and failed serveral times before :)

While I will remain neutral in my comments, I will say that there are many sites that offer code modification of vBulletin discussion. This is the only official one that assures only licensed users can participate.

That we KNOW of, anyway. ;)

Yes, I wonder why.

As for piracy, a quick search on a popular P2P app shows cracked vb3, massive zipfiles full of hacks etc. So while the attempts to stop pirated users on this site are pretty good they are at the end of the day useless apart from stopping pirate users getting support.

I'm all for stopping piracy, but I really think Jelsoft have to cut back on there control of this site. It amazes me Jelsoft cannot see how much they are annoying people these days, did anyone not see the +++++fest caused over importers over at vb.com?

While it may have been true a year or so ago that nothing could beat VB, today free boards are getting close if not ahead of Jelsoft. Sad day indeed. I'm not gonna keep coming back to this thread to put down Jelsoft after this response but i'm just sad that things have gone down hill in terms of my respect for Jelsoft.

This is what we're hoping to fix and change with all of the changes that are planned and will be planned for vb.org. Wayne Luke is here to make things better, not worse. Wayne has always been fair and impartial with any dealings I have witnessed him involved with. I, for one, would have never accepted a Mod-ship (is that even a word?) here if I thought things weren't going to get better or things could not get better. If everyone here will just bear with the staff here, I'm sure the changes for the better will show themselves and all that we have gone through in this will make us that much stronger in the end. ;)

OT: Speaking of P2P vBHosting hack found on P2P. Won't name the app but its there.

Jelsoft has been behind the scences of this site and others for along time, I don't see the point in getting worked up over this as that was chens job for some time iirc.

As for the piracy, if these zip's where not going around in the first place the policys would have never come about. In a perfect world jelsoft would not have to protech its product from thoese that belive they can steal and get away with it.

And for the free board vs vBulletin part I wont get into that, if you find something that suits you better then use it, it is just software ya know.

You can make what comments you want, but please stop mentioning avenues of illegally maintaining vB-related material.

What has any of this got to do with Wayne's appointment. Wayne is a genuinely nice guy and at first when I saw him getting involved I had my reservations but after speaking with him he's diplomatic, intelligent and can only be a great asset to this site. Yes there are problems as it stands but we're working hard behind the scenes to try and rectify them :)