What do you think about Vbulletin vs Xenforo?

[JacquiiDesigns]

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Originally Posted by nhawk

There are quite a few reasons. But one of the biggest ones is the TMS (template modification system). I can manipulate templates without ever actually touching the templates. So an upgrade to XF has no effect on my add-ons.

Another is the direct access to literally every function in XF. It cuts coding time considerably once you get the idea of how XF works.

And finally, if done correctly one add-on can't interfere with another. So I have very little worry about a mod conflicting with another one. But I still slip up once in a while and have to correct a couple of things here and there with this one.

The entire process is almost like opening a kitchen cabinet and picking what you need to put together a good meal.

I'm no coder - but I think I understand what you're saying. And what you're saying is that XF is much more accessible in terms of coding modifications than vBulletin is...?

This is likely one reason code developers who were once quite active here at vB.org have left by the droves - wouldn't you think? Like with the vB 4 codebase changing between upgraded versions ever few months or so, breaking modifications.

From all appearances - vB 5 Connect has not bettered the situation at all. Example: A year after vB 5 hit the scene - there are only 46 modifications and 17 templates edited shared in the modifications area.

Have you coded anything for vB 5 Connect? If yes - Was the coding process a better experience with vB 4? If you haven't coded for vB 5 - why not?

Originally Posted by katie hunter

...whereas VB uses its own built framework that is built from ground up.

Perhaps. But the general consensus is that vB's "own built framework that is built from the ground up" (especially as concerns vB 5 Connect) is an incomplete shit!

Originally Posted by nhawk

I think you need to understand what the framework is.

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People could write their own, but why on earth would they want to? There is nothing wrong with using them and in many cases they are required.

Thanks for this clarification.

Originally Posted by katie hunter

I will continue comparing the differences between VB and XF without bring this story up. Vbulletin deserves some positive facts to shine about it. It is been a while now.

Anyway... I'll try not to confuse you with my complex words ((sigh...)) But as a tried and true vBFangirl since 2006 -- I most certainly wish vBulletin (under the inept ownership of Internet Brands) would get its act together. vB has had some of its positives brought to light... That was called vB 3.8.7 --- From my and a great many other vB license holders' perspective though, vB 4 (with the exception of vB 4.2 perhaps) and now the vB 5 bomb is doing absolutely nothing to deserve similar praise.

When and if the time comes to again heap praise on vBulletin - I'll be happy to recommend the script to my hundreds of clients, whom incidentally, are quite happy with the graphics I've provided them.

That time is obviously not now!

J.