Well, for my other forum that isn't vBulletin, I use Invision Boards. If any of you have worked with Invisions, you know they are a pain in the butt, especially the skinning system. Invision said that they were going to improve this system, but it is the exact same CSS system. v 1.2 did add some cool features that don't have to be hacked (ie warnings), but overall, the software can not compare to the ease of vBulletin. I really wish I had the money to buy another license.