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JohnBee 05-04-2005 11:07 AM

The double post feature is not helpful!
 
Sorry to say but there are times in a conversation where one would like
to updates a thread and not add to an existing post...

I have a thread going where no one can tell if there are any changes
in it when I was to report back about my progress on a modification.

very frustrating!

there should be a way to force a new thread or something so that we
can control weather or not its an update to an already existing post
or an update or new development in an ongoing thread.

kall 05-04-2005 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
I have a thread going where no one can tell if there are any changes
in it when I was to report back about my progress on a modification.

It does not affect threads started in the Modifications (Full Releases) forum.

You might want to specify which forums it would be good to be turned off in. To blanket say 'It is not helpful' is unlikely to get you the desired outcome.

JohnBee 05-04-2005 11:31 AM

in Modification Requests

Regs 05-04-2005 01:11 PM

It's not helpful and has caused the search function to break here on vb.org.

There's a blanket statement. :D

Doesn't this auto-merged thing actually inhibit the normal sense of information acquisition? When 'conversing' with someone, this hack requires RE-READING material to make sure you haven't missed something. Who benefits from that?

Cheers,

~Regs.

Zachery 05-04-2005 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
in Modification Requests

There is only a 24 hour limit on the bumping and it was a bad issue before we implimented it

JohnBee 05-04-2005 02:02 PM

I think the hack in question under its current state is causing more problems for
otherwise better members than the troublesome ones you speak of.

I hope this does not turn into another example of functionality loss as a result
of other peoples abuses. As I see it the forum functionality has gone from good to
sub standard since this hack was activated.

Additionally I have no doubt in the fact that there is room for further development
on this hack and that it could be used without these side effects.

Paul M 05-04-2005 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
I think the hack in question under its current state is causing more problems for
otherwise better members than the troublesome ones you speak of.

In your opinion. ;) Most people have no problem with it.

Revan 05-04-2005 02:50 PM

Quote:

The double post feature is not helpful!
Neither is your complaining.
Reading about how people invent new ways of complaining about this is hilarious reading.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
Doesn't this auto-merged thing actually inhibit the normal sense of information acquisition?

No it doesn't. If your reply was within 24 hours of a previous review, the amount of people having read it and found it too worthless to comment on is small enough for it to be justified not being able to write a new post just adding minor pieces of information.
If your new reply is so major that it would actually justify a new post, then it deserves its own thread.
If your thread is so popular and your topic is so damn cool that you just HAVE to keep people up to date with what you are doing now in relation to 5 minutes ago, there is BOUND to be someone replying. If not, read point #1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
When 'conversing' with someone, this hack requires RE-READING material to make sure you haven't missed something.

If you are bored enough to not be able to wait 24 hours to check for updates, just constantly keep refreshing the thread page and look at the edit line.
Oh, and BTW: You are saying that the Edit Post function should be removed, because its feature FORCES people to re-read the entire post. Some important wording may have been rephrased, and to be 100% sure, you HAVE to re-read it. See how much sense that's making?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
It's not helpful and has caused the search function to break here on vb.org.

Prove it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
Who benefits from that?

Everyone who can't be assed to scroll 15 lines extra just to see ONE single more line that SHOULD have been edited into the previous post, but the poster is too much of a goddamn n00b to use the Edit function.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
I think the hack in question under its current state is causing more problems for
otherwise better members than the troublesome ones you speak of.

I hope this does not turn into another example of functionality loss as a result
of other peoples abuses. As I see it the forum functionality has gone from good to
sub standard since this hack was activated.

Give examples, reasons, valid points. Because all I see now is a guy who's sad about losing the ability to annoy people with multiple posting in a row.


My NOK 0.02. If this sounded harsh or something, then it's because it's SOO annoying to see people make groundless accusations, whine and whine over something that gives more benefits than it does damage.

JohnBee 05-04-2005 03:42 PM

Revan

Your post has given me my laugh for the day.

Given your approach we should rethink the entire concept of the feedback forum.
Perhaps you could moderate all the complaints out of it and keep only the form
fitting threads.

Quote:

Because all I see now is a guy who's sad about losing the ability to annoy people with multiple posting in a row.
This comment raises questions on your ability to provide helpful participation.

With all the efforts it has taken to dissect and comment on each one of those
posts or threads, you may have doubled the efforts needed to produce positive suggestions to help make things better.

This is the point of this forum is it not?

Revan 05-04-2005 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
Perhaps you could moderate all the complaints out of it and keep only the form fitting threads.

If I did, I would at least merge the two threads. I would also have made a post where I would request some form of reason as to why the hack needs to be removed, instead of opinions which would actually work AGAINST the purpose they are advocating.
Surely you found it easier to read my replies when I quoted the sections of previous posts I was referring to? Hm?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
This comment raises questions on your ability to provide helpful participation.

Just because Im sick of reading these kind of threads, and because Im sick of people who are too ignorant to even realise there's a whole opposite side to the story?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
With all the efforts it has taken to dissect and comment on each one of those
posts or threads, you may have doubled the efforts needed to produce positive suggestions to help make things better.

Instead, I chose to spend my efforts on bringing down a post which, should its message be heard, would put the forum back into the doublepost hell. I also got the satisfaction of reading a reply that handily ignored all of my points, and resumed stating the same points over, only this time dissing my ability to provide support and/or help the community as a whole.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBee
This is the point of this forum is it not?

Yes it is, therefore I don't understand why you refuse to realise that doubleposting is not the way to provide better support or aid, but an annoyance to those reading the thread.


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