Vb too much for web hosts?
 

I have been using Vb for a couple of years now, allways on the same host. No problems... No grief.

This morning.. i recieve

comments welcome.

The only time at which vBulletin uses excessive resources is when people install monster hacks on them that perform over 100 queries per page.. ;)

I haven't heard any such problems with vB3 though.

My host allows vB3, and they run it as their support forums as well. They're not fly-by-night (third year with them) and they're clearly knowledgable. Enough said.

is your host one of those who puts 50 or more accounts on a celeron box like those that advertise at webhostingtalk.com?

i personally have always wanted to run tests and put about 25 forum installs on a single box with about 100 folks per forums using it to see what kind of load there is on the box.. but i only have a single license and can't do that..

either way, i don't believe your host is dealing with people who know how to manage their forums if this is the case.. or they have too many accounts on a single box..

Time for a new host....something is wrong with those guys.

Ventures Online is one of the more reputable hosts out there. They didn't outright ban Vbulletin like they did hivemail, but they did try to force me to upgrade to a dedicated or virtual private server shortly after I upgraded to VB3. My traffic levels didn't change - only the version of vbulletin that I was using. I know I wasn't the only one who had this problem.

Many of the clients on my servers run vBulletin and I don't have any complaints. Some hosts will just look for reasons to complain.

my mate that runs a host complains that vb3 uses more resources than vb2... but it's never become much of a problem...

I'd say ditch the host and find a new one...their loss...

I believe that any community software is going to take more resources than your average html website or even the average PHP/MySQL website. Why they choose to point vB out I have no clue.

The host I'm with (HostRocket) used to say that if you had more than 30 people on at a time posting and other stuff to your board you might be useing to many resources. That statement was said during vB2. I have asked about vB3 and they said they had no clue about what to say since they installed MySQL 4 with query chaching and the fact that vBulletin 3 uses less querys. The most we have ever had on with vBulletin 3 is 42 and they have yet to complain.

I've had 120+ on a vB site that's on one of my servers that also hosts other vB sites (including an extensively hacked and extended vB2 site). The server didn't even breathe hard.

There was a topic about vB3 being resource intensive a while back - I can remember agreeing that it was fairly resource intensive. However, the more features you disable the quicker it gets :)!

i'm on the same host as filburt to the best of my knowledge, i'll definately make the move to vb3.

My host (DreamHost) doesn't have any problems with vB and/or they haven't complained yet to any of the people using vB. We got a good price from them, so it's good they aren't complaining since I ain't moving :p.

Sounds like your on lunarpages or somthing.

No, any host who outright bans vBulletin but allows boards like YaBB CGI or uBB.x, is clearly not in their right mind and or overselling their servers.

Its sad, over the last few months ive notice alot of good hosts go bad because of these reassons

vB3 uses more memory then vB2 did, however overall I have no seen much change in server load.

I'm on DreamHost...I said that in my post ;).

My host - CredibleHost - allows vB3, and I don't see any reason for a host to not allow vBulletin but reccomend phpBB! That's quite weird... :rolleyes:

My host uses vB3 on their support forums, and it runs pretty well. My forum, although it isn't active yet, runs great, and the server load doesn't even go past 2.00, but it probably will when the site gets active (site runs on Dual 2.0GHz Xeon with HT, and 2 gigs of RAM, and hosts 132 other sites).

A host that disallows vBulletin is not in their right mind and you (thread starter) should move immediately to a reputable host.

Maybe it is a case of them trying to force their prefered software on their clients. That is what it seems like, or they have really poor servers, or a server that is not configured to distribute load properly. Either way do yourself a favour and move away from there. Also which package are you using and how much is it @ dreamhost?

One time when I was new to vb, I turned on persistant connections and my host kicked me out in a week because it was killing the database -.-;

I'm on my own host ;) Well, it's my friends host and I run technical support for it...so I can pretty much do what I want ;)

I'm with Fluid Hosting. They've never had any problems with my forum and they've been more than accomodating to me. When I wanted to install the Usenet/NNTP hack, they actually tried to set up their own news server to accomodate me.

Theres really no reason to turn on persistant connections unless you have an insanely huge forum, and even then its probaly a bad idea :)

I use Saccentral for a couple of my vb sites, my only complaint is that they have not update the library to gd2.0 yet..... other than that, I wish they was slightly cheaper. $70/month times 3 is a lot of money out my pockets........
I do have another site being hosted by Ipowerweb, but they prefer the phpBB and have it preinstalled ready to set up. Took them a while before I could get the vb to run......but they are cheap $100 for a year with a site with an expected 200 users...

my friend recently switched to lunarpages. should i give him a headsup? what would be the reasons for him to switch to someone else. have you heard of onsmart.net?

-yinyang

As everyone else has said - Find a new host! One I might suggest is PixieHost. I've been with them for well over a year and 1/2 now and definitely can't complain. With an average of 50-75 concurrent users on a couple of my sites, they've had no problems handling the load. :)

I host with lunar pages because I'm a bit new to serious web development and it was an easy way to get started. When I decided to purchase vBulletin, I was also concerned that I might need to move hosts immediatl, because lunarpages recommends NOT to use vB.

There are mixed responses from admins on their comm. boards regarding whether they would allow it on their servers at all, so i phoned them up and spoke with a tech. He said they do allow vB to run on their servers, and that many people do.

Their boards indicated that at some threshhold they will warn you that your forums have become too active for their shared servers. They do not specify exactly what level of activity prompts this action. The tech was cool though, and said: "At that point you've really graduated from lunar pages hosting anyway."

I use their e-commerce Voyager plan, and realize i'll have to move someday.

Right now I'm trying to get my forum off the ground, so i'm not really worried about this problem yet. I have an open question over in General Modification Discussion if you'd like to help me out. :)

rob

My host is simply www.v76host.com and i went with them because they are friends of mine, and are happy to be added to their customers msn list and pestered non stop. They have someone for each thing, such as php,html,graphics. They always help me with coding something or making me images etc their great :p Oh and ultra cheap too

HI thanks for all the replys... i am indeed with lunar pages. and this week has seen many mails swap between us.

The are very insistant...i would even dare to say patronising, about how I should go to phpbb. my boards are relatively unhacked and rarley do we see more than 10 folks online at same time. So i can only sumise that there is some political or personal reason for them threatening to suspend my hosting...

spose i'll just put it down to experience... but to recieve this 2 weeks after signing up for my 3rd year with them... its a funny place this internet thingy.

thx again.

I have found a level of security going with a company that doesn't even have a site. I deal directly with a data center here locally in Toronto, and they take care of my hosting, they have hundreds of servers, with many hosts selling off them, many of which you probably have seen around guaranteed (some of the big players) yet the actual company does not have a website, but their data centeres are top-notch with best security. I get some of the best pricing with them. For ex: pixiehost shared 6.95 for 400 some mb, at this data center, I have unlimited accessability to the server, it is practically like a dedicated server, and I pay only management fees. It probably helps that I am friends, but I have a sense of security that they won't get up and leave, and wont be overloading me on ++++ servers anytime soon.

I used addr.com, and my site lagged so bad it was difficult to open a page at times. I contacted their customer service on many occasions only to be told that I was running too many queries, and that it was essentially my fault.

I transferred my site to surpasshosting.com, and it has been blazing fast. Keep in mind it was the exact same board and setup that was on addr.com.

I have a feeling that addr crams way too many accounts on a single box and then expects the customers to deal with it.

Regardless, account closed.

More than happy with surpasshosting.com + vb3.

wow really nice hosting ^_^ i may consider them