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Zero Tolerance's RPG or Gamasoftware's RPG?

I'm kinda at a mix between to 2. Gamasoftware has tons of features but it's external. ZT's has all the coolness of the old RPG for vB2. So tell me, what should I get? I'll decide myself in the end but I wanted your opinions.

what do you mean its external? it does work with vb3.

l8er
sonic

I mean it's integrated with vB3 but not MERGED with it, like the vB2 rpg was.

Let me know which one is better. I'm interested. :)

ZT's isn't completed yet. So i'm wondering if I should get the gamasoftware one now. OR I should like wait 2 more months and get ZT's when it IS done.

Ive used RCS for a long time, since alpha, i watched him code half the thing at my dads house ^^. RCS is good, and considering the price its not bad.

<a href="http://www.gamasoftware.com" target="_blank">www.gamasoftware.com</a>

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Originally Posted by Zachery

www.gamasoftware.com

His online demo has an error in the userend

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Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in c:\program files\apache group\apache2\htdocs\gamademos\rcs\includes\functi ons\fun_global.php on line 269

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Originally Posted by Brad.loo

His online demo has an error in the userend

I didnt get it. :/

I got the error too. I didnt feel like registering - about how much is it?

$50.

They said it can be merged with a vB. I'm assuming merged means like it was with that vB2 RPG hack. If so it's already mine...^_^

The demo didn't work for me either, and it's silly that you must register just to find out how much it costs. If they want anyone to consider the software, it would be wise to get the demo working right.

what link are you guys using? cuz it works for me.

l8er
sonic

okay. it works for me.

l8er
sonic

Just got ZT's hack. Some convience issues I wanna point out, like having to use healing items instead of like a hospital for instant healing. And you can't see your Gil amount when shopping. Oh well. I still palce it FAR above gamasoftware's :)

I'm a huge fan of Gamasoftware's RCS. I'm a bit of an insider on it, and I get to see features before they're released and such. Trust me, it's going to be insanely awesome very soon.

the demo has been updatedso the 2nd link does not work, and the reason errors ever occured for the demo is somone abused the demo. if you goto www.gamasoftware.com and click demos you shall see the current version RCS 1.5 Pre Release. Before the next release though we plan to sneak even more features in. As for people asking about complete integration, due to the software being for vbulletin 2 originaly then vb 3 came out it caused problems like rendering my old software almost obsolete, so to prevent that from happening anymore, or even ever again, i have made the software standalone with links to other softwares such as vbulletin(however it works with many other softwares). It does connect to the vbulletin database so if you desired you could hack in other features and even tie it further in, which requires some hacking, however, the whole point was not to make it less integrated with vb so much as prevent vb from putting my hard work into a useless old hack for an outdated software.

I personaly plan to make many new hacks for rcs to further integrate vb3 and rcs, and gold for users is integrated already as well, and being as they still share the same database all the things from the old 1.0-1.3 version, are indeed still possible, and shoulnt be too hard to create.

I havnt used ZT's hack however i am confident that the RCS is the most powerful and innovated RPG system out there, and with the admin back end and controls i doubt that there will be any that will be better than it.

Specialy after version 1.5 final... :P

Anyways, the choise is yours, hopefully you are happy with your choise.

Enjoy!

Interesting, zajako. :)

I suppose it's all a matter of opinion! :D I'm sticking with ZT's

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Originally Posted by Erwin

Interesting, zajako. :)

id give more facts, and feature lists and such like that but i think that starts breaking advertising rules or something like that.

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Originally Posted by zajako

id give more facts, and feature lists and such like that but i think that starts breaking advertising rules or something like that.

Well, if you're not linking to the site yourself, I wouldn't consider it advertising. :) But I'm no longer a staff member here, so best to check with a mod of this forum.

I didn't mean to start a whole controversy on what's better and has mroe features. :p

i sent filburt a pm, and smasher, im just trying to answer questions, and facts just kinda back them up.

does Zero Tolerance have a website or sumthing?

i would like to see his.

l8er
sonic

http://www.gzevolution.net/Services/...tures&type=img

There's the stuff on his hack. He has a test run link on the side so you can see how it works. :D

with permission from filburt:

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Gamasoftware RCS 1.5 release canidate Features Summary:

User Side
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Characters can create up to 5 characters
Characters have stats including: Atk(Attack) Def(Defence) MO(Magic Offence) MD(Magic Defence) MLvl(Magic Level)
Stats are increased by battling other players and leveling up and obtaining Attribute points
Users can travel to multiple locations and regions finding shops, picking up gold as they travel
Users can Challenge other players to combat and use the items and equipment they have obtained from shops
Users can equip their weapons armours and accessories when not in battle
Users can use inventory items in and out of battle(only in battle if said character has it equiped)
Items can cause status effects or do many other things using a unique system of modifyers
Challenges can be accepted or declined or even canceled by the the person who made them
A detailed help system allowing new users to read and figure out how to play
Locations can cause triggers and change depending on other triggers using the modifyer/quest system
Dead characters can be revived by using reive potions from the inventory or buried.
Players can choose class, race, gender, element and appearnce when creating a new character
players are alerted on level ups of their characters

Admin Side
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Region Creation system which shows a grid of locations.
Locations can be made into warp location that jump to another location or region
You can set Default location from the regions grid
You can add edit or delete locations or regions quickly and easily
You can add modifyers for locations and regions
You can change the grid size for regions at any time
Text to be displayed about said location can be edited
You can move locations in regions
You can change images for locations
You can set the image for a battle that occurs at said location(only if location is an arena)
You can make your own races and set the begging hp mp atk def md mo mlvl and access requiresments
You can make your own classes and set the begging hp mp atk def md mo mlvl and access requiresments
You can make your own Elements and set the begging hp mp atk def md mo mlvl and access requiresments
You can make your own Geners
You can make your own Shops and place them at any location you like
You can make npcs and place them at any location or shop you would like
You can make your own Status Effect and if you would like to make them more advanced you can make them use modifyers
You can add new level up and the required exp and attributes gained for the level
You can Create and modify your own items, weapons, armours, and accessories and make them use modifyers to make them more advanced
RPG Admins are managed seperate from your forums for further security
You can search your users and give them gold or reset them back to the default location
You can Manualy give your users inventory items
You can delete add and manage your users characters
You can manage, delete, and add battles
You can manage, delete, and add challenges
You can manage, delete, and add Character images
Manage and create new modifyers
You can use and upload and share tool that do various tasks. These tools will have a section for sharing at gama's home site
You can upload and manage your sprites using our custom sprite system
You can manage your rpg templates and pages from our unique one of a kind Advanced Page Template System

General
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Blazingly Fast page loads. (on average around 0.05 second page generation speeds)
Very Server nice page loads. (most pages run under 5 queries)
Runs Standalone or can be linked to one of these message boards (vbulletin(2.x or 3.x), invision power board, phpbulletinboard, wotlab bb, among others)
Nicely Designed Default Templates

all I want to say about the RCS is: ugly graphics

umm are you saying the site layout graphics, or the sprites?

The sprites will be redone before release, the layout for 1.5 PR is quite nice, during beta it wasnt the prettiest thing, but thats because the layout was thrown together for beta.

Let me know, because if its something thats fixable id like to fix it.

ZT's is really slow, the background graphics are ugly. I'm not too impressed really.
Gama's is fast as fook, I like the new graphics, its CSS driven, its all nice ^_^

umm its not fully css driven yet 1.5 final will be.

I have looked into these both briefly, and have found the following so far.

ZT's doesn't seem to have a world that you can navigate around in. COrrect me if I'm wrong..

Gama's seems pretty cool but the navigation is too repetitive with the same image loading over and over.

Is there a good text based RPG out there that could be integrated with VB? I have to say text based all the way is the way to go.

you can change the images, i havnt gotten around to totaly decking out the default install values yet.

I have Zero Tolerance's RPG and Gamasoftware's RPG.And test on localhost.
if Gamasoftware's RPG I thinks it very cool.Because we can add code on magic,item...and system place is very cool.
But this game haven't summon system,limit,and magic....
on RPG Inferno v1 I look some code very cool..all system active but some system need bug fix.

I've just paid for both ZT's Inferno RPG, and GamaSoftware's RCS system.

My impression so far:

1) ZT's Inferno RPG - $40 for owned license - paid using Paypal, no referral to immediate download area, still waiting for someone to contact me regarding download.

Can't comment on it yet - still waiting...

2) GamaSoftware's RCS RPG - $50 for 1 year only - paid using Paypal, download available immediately but buggy - conflicting cookies on their download page between their member's area and the forum.

In the end, I managed to download the RCS zip, but got weird ZIP extraction password errors, which I bypassed using drag-and-drop in Explorer.

Regarding RCS1.5 - basically I find it interesting and quite powerful, but because it is not well integrated (well, the only integration is that it uses the vB userbase) with vBulletin, I don't think I will be using it. If you want a stand-alone game system that you can customize, the RCS1.5 system is good. If you want integration with vB3 - then this is not what you are looking for. At least, that's my impression so far.

Will post here once I get ZT's RPG system...

Sounds interesting :)

I certainly like the feel of the gammasoftware system, but I haven't played with the other one yet ;)

I've been monitoring the gammasoftware developement for quite a while - There are some dissapointing elements, but they are mostly to do with unclear instructions, and also a buggy design - I keep getting page errors :/

Satan

I'm still having trouble downloading ZT's RPG system - he's telling me that an automated email should have been sent, but there's been nothing.

Finally got it after some PM exchanges on his site. Shall update you on what I think. :)

nice, Erwin.
I've used ZT so far and feel it's very good.
everything seems to be very ok just without the big world (ZT said later version will have it).
it is easy to use, easy to administrate but actually the admin still isn't be able to manage all things. version 2 would have more good features like spells. RPG inferno isn't fully integrated with vb3 yet since it only uses the posting function to let users get money. the second thing I don't like in RPG Inferno is that ZT wrote all the RPG actions in just one ~400KB php script, the whole RPG Inferno only remains in 2 main files: one for admin and one for users, this should be avoided.
I like job of RPG Inferno, it is based on the earliest RPG hack for IP I think since I've used IP for a period of time. It lets me to have about 100 jobs with different level requirements like class of a job 1 requires lvl 1, class the same job 2 requires lvl 20, and so on, the summon, tourament, auction,... sections also look cool, RPG Inferno also has a store.
Generally and personally, I regard RPG Inferno as the best RPG hack available, and it will probally abstract more webmaster when new version comes out ^^.
*waiting for Erwin's post*

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