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MaDCaT75 09-27-2003 07:28 AM

what is holding you back from upgrading to vb3?
 
If you're like me, you are thinking wether to upgrade to vbulletin 3 or not. I myself am not upgrading at this time because I have too many "precious" hacks. I.E. quick edit, sig edit, the arcade, the store, and other miscellaneous hacks. This is really the only reason why I wont go vbulletin3. I'm sure the hacks that I have on my board will be updated to vb3 but until then I am not upgrading :tired:

engquist 09-27-2003 07:37 AM

yes I agree, I just don't have the time to upgrade all of the hacks. I wish there was a way to automatically include all of the hacks in the update to VB3.

NexDog 09-27-2003 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDCaT75
If you're like me, you are thinking wether to upgrade to vbulletin 3 or not. I myself am not upgrading at this time because I have too many "precious" hacks. I.E. quick edit, sig edit, the arcade, the store, and other miscellaneous hacks. This is really the only reason why I wont go vbulletin3. I'm sure the hacks that I have on my board will be updated to vb3 but until then I am not upgrading :tired:

Exactly the same reason here. I love my hacks (well, they ain't "mine" but I love 'em).

blakkboy 09-27-2003 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDCaT75
If you're like me, you are thinking wether to upgrade to vbulletin 3 or not. I myself am not upgrading at this time because I have too many "precious" hacks. I.E. quick edit, sig edit, the arcade, the store, and other miscellaneous hacks. This is really the only reason why I wont go vbulletin3. I'm sure the hacks that I have on my board will be updated to vb3 but until then I am not upgrading :tired:

same with me

MaDCaT75 09-27-2003 07:45 AM

I guess maybe the hacks that I cant live without will come out eventually.... but until they do I will not upgrade.

insanctus 09-27-2003 07:57 AM

I have both running. Hacks used to be a big thing to me till I started hacking.

If there is something I realy wanted on my vb3 I would just convert it or make it.

Both have good points and bad. But over all I think vb3 is better.

assassingod 09-27-2003 07:57 AM

I reckon nearly every hack released for vB2 will be rereleased by someone, the only bad thing is if they don't get permission from the original author to do it.

MaDCaT75 09-27-2003 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assassingod
I reckon nearly every hack released for vB2 will be rereleased by someone, the only bad thing is if they don't get permission from the original author to do it.

Yeah. Lets just hope that they do :p

Azhrialilu 09-27-2003 08:13 AM

Yup, hacks here too... and the fact I use VBPortal and they're not releasing the new version til the proper VB3 is issued *grin*

I can't write hacks, so I have to rely on you guys to do them for me LOL so there's no chance of me trying to incorporate what's there into VB3 until you lovely lot do it ;)

N9ne 09-27-2003 08:21 AM

I also found that once I became good enough at PHP, that hacks weren't important. I can add full featured hacks in one day to a vB3 now, so it's not a problem. I upgraded to beta3 when it came out ;).

MaDCaT75 09-27-2003 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDCaT75
Yeah. Lets just hope that they do :p

This is the correct answer.

insanctus 09-27-2003 08:34 AM

I heard (rumor) some of them the authors will make them pay hacks.

How true that is I have no clue (will not say which hacks)

But I beleive when vb3 goes rc most the fav hacks will be re-released fast.

MaDCaT75 09-27-2003 08:39 AM

Let us hope so.

N9ne 09-27-2003 08:51 AM

Most hacks will be re-released by someone. Don't worry...

sabret00the 09-27-2003 09:02 AM

for me it's the hacks, theirs some i just like for making life easier but theirs others which i wouldn't remove for my board for no reason. AAA+++ important hacks are Journal, Store, Arcade and the Quizzes. i just like my users having the ability to use that stuff, not to mention the fact the store cut the amount of pm's i got in half :lol:

then theirs the admin side but alot of that has been done in vb3, so when i do finally upgrade i don't expect to have half the hacs i currently have installed.

but i will start my style sets asap :)

insanctus 09-27-2003 09:05 AM

I never used the arcade, the store I missed for a bit I even ported it over but then did away with it (seen no sence to it on my one community).

The journal I did port and kept.

Most the hacks I liked where already in vb3, those that where not I put in.

But the type of bords I run to not merit fun hacks as much.

Dean C 09-27-2003 09:57 AM

What's holding me back?

Time and patience ;)

John 09-27-2003 12:59 PM

I lot of the hacks I have in my vb2 installations are already covered in vb3.

I wasn't planning on upgrading to vb3... but after looking at the code there's no doubt that I'm going to. Things are a lot cleaner, as well as the new features, security, etc. I'm sure a lot of people who wouldn't consider it now will take a good look at upgrading once RC1 is released.

lasto 09-27-2003 01:17 PM

hacks as lets face it vb is horrible to look at unless u hack the board and make it more personal to you.

Catch-22|BL 09-27-2003 01:25 PM

Constantly upgrading the software and fighting through bugs is not just a good use of our administrative time. Being solid and secure technically is essential for success, but larger message boards are more focused on building the forums and accomplishing the goals of the site. For example, Literotica has more than six million posts and they are still running an almost intact version of vb 2.28.

To answer your question, we are probably not upgrading until vb 3.02 comes out. It is just not a high priority to us. We do not want to fall too far behind, but for our needs a vb 2.30 board with 25 nice hacks/modifications is 90%+ as good as a vb 3.02 board with 10 hacks.

noppid 09-27-2003 01:34 PM

I'd have to agree, I'm too busy taking care of the forums health to compromise it with beta software and increase my admin duties. I paid for working stable code and that's what I'll run. Call me cheap, but I would have to see some quid pro quo for my effort on Jelsofts part, ie. help us test our new software and this years lease will be 50% off.

EvilLS1 10-03-2003 01:55 AM

A few things.. 1) showthread.php loads extremely slow for me on VB3 (IE 6.0). 2) I don't like how all posts are in a single table now, rather than having their own table like vb2.. The reason is that images and code stretch the whole page and makes it difficult to read. 3) I'm happy with 2.2.X, I've fixed the security flaws manually, and I'm used to it. So why change? 4) I'm very lazy.

I do have VB3 running on my PC though..

MaDCaT75 10-03-2003 02:51 AM

The only reason I'd upgrade to vB3 is to have google spiders crawl my forum but every hack I've tried so far for 2.2.X hasnt worked :cry:

Zachery 10-03-2003 04:31 AM

im already there :)

the only thing that was holding me back was a portal but i was lucky enuf to have tigga help me by letting me test his portal

ive become decent enuf to mod hacks or make some of my own for my vb3 board :)

sabret00the 10-03-2003 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDCaT75
The only reason I'd upgrade to vB3 is to have google spiders crawl my forum but every hack I've tried so far for 2.2.X hasnt worked :cry:

set up a splash and ask your members to set up links on their sites and if they aint already submit to google and such, then google will crawl thru them to you and cos you didn't ask it to crawl you, you'll be rated higher and remember the more ppl that link to your site the higher you'll be :)

MaDCaT75 10-03-2003 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
set up a splash and ask your members to set up links on their sites and if they aint already submit to google and such, then google will crawl thru them to you and cos you didn't ask it to crawl you, you'll be rated higher and remember the more ppl that link to your site the higher you'll be :)

Ok you went right over my head there :confused:

Logician 10-04-2003 10:10 AM

1- VB3's being beta, uncompleted (templates) and untested as much as VB2
2- My expertise in VB2 code
3- My cold feelings for VB3 interface
4- Having around 70 hacks to move
5- Need to translate the whole templates once more
6- Lack of time
7- My members being computer newbies and complexity of VB3 user interface

all of which require some time to overcome..

sabret00the 10-04-2003 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDCaT75
Ok you went right over my head there :confused:

if you let me know what bit you're lost on i can try and help you over pm :)

cirisme 10-07-2003 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDCaT75
If you're like me, you are thinking wether to upgrade to vbulletin 3 or not. I myself am not upgrading at this time because I have too many "precious" hacks. I.E. quick edit, sig edit, the arcade, the store, and other miscellaneous hacks. This is really the only reason why I wont go vbulletin3. I'm sure the hacks that I have on my board will be updated to vb3 but until then I am not upgrading :tired:

Nothing, we've been porting for a while now and hope to be there soon. :)

MaDCaT75 10-08-2003 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logician
1- VB3's being beta, uncompleted (templates) and untested as much as VB2
2- My expertise in VB2 code
3- My cold feelings for VB3 interface
4- Having around 70 hacks to move
5- Need to translate the whole templates once more
6- Lack of time
7- My members being computer newbies and complexity of VB3 user interface

all of which require some time to overcome..

Took the words right outta my mouth.

KuraFire 11-10-2003 11:36 AM

I've hacked my vb2 board up and down so much that I can't even tell what code is mine and what code is vB's anymore, in some files. Since I'm completely rewriting Everything on my site for a big new version, I'll upgrade to vB3 during that process. :)

KuraFire 11-10-2003 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catch-22|BL
To answer your question, we are probably not upgrading until vb 3.02 comes out. It is just not a high priority to us. We do not want to fall too far behind, but for our needs a vb 2.30 board with 25 nice hacks/modifications is 90%+ as good as a vb 3.02 board with 10 hacks.

What the Hell is vB "3.02" o_O????

Zachery 11-10-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuraFire
What the Hell is vB "3.02" o_O????

i think he means vb 3.0.2 however beta already seems like vb 3.1.4 lol :D

Gio Takahashi 11-10-2003 05:14 PM

My forums has tons of hacks installed, a lot of it I customized myself, and others runs a major role on the forums itself. I will probably not upgrade until:

Teck's vBHome lite
Logitech's Webtemplate
and Lesane's Storehack

are released.

And not until I complete the upgrade of two styles for vB3 (since I'm working on them on the vB3 test forums.)

Zachery 11-10-2003 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gio Takahashi
My forums has tons of hacks installed, a lot of it I customized myself, and others runs a major role on the forums itself. I will probably not upgrade until:

Teck's vBHome lite
Logitech's Webtemplate
and Lesane's Storehack

are released.

And not until I complete the upgrade of two styles for vB3 (since I'm working on them on the vB3 test forums.)

installing lesanes store hack is a big sign that says HACK ME, if you ever ++++ someone off, there are already 2 "store" type systems that are way better in development :)

Teck;s vBhome light i thought wasnt going to be converted for vb3 but instead become cpublisher?

and i have no idea what Logitiions webtemplates did so i cant comment ^^

Gio Takahashi 11-10-2003 05:45 PM

webtemplates basically allows you to make website that is completely integrated with vB and allows you to make website from admin cp theres no way I can run united empire without that x_X

Apoco 11-10-2003 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faranth
installing lesanes store hack is a big sign that says HACK ME, if you ever ++++ someone off, there are already 2 "store" type systems that are way better in development :)

Teck;s vBhome light i thought wasnt going to be converted for vb3 but instead become cpublisher?

and i have no idea what Logitiions webtemplates did so i cant comment ^^

I agree with him. Choose other hacks my friend.

Zachery 11-10-2003 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gio Takahashi
webtemplates basically allows you to make website that is completely integrated with vB and allows you to make website from admin cp theres no way I can run united empire without that x_X

Gio, you can do that with out his hack, by hand :)

if you need it intergrated into vb i suggest you laern how to call a template to a page ;)

KuraFire 11-11-2003 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faranth
Gio, you can do that with out his hack, by hand :)

if you need it intergrated into vb i suggest you laern how to call a template to a page ;)

I concur. You don't need Webtemplates to run a site off of your vB Engine. Esp. with vB3 it's mighty easy now :)

I'll be running my entire site off of vB3's engine, without any special hack for that. Just writing my own features 'n all, just do it the way the vB3 files work and voila :)

KuraFire 11-11-2003 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faranth
i think he means vb 3.0.2 however beta already seems like vb 3.1.4 lol :D

Why does he think there will be a vB3.0.2 ? Last I checked, they're hoping not to need a release inbetween 3.0.0 and 3.1.0....


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