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RaajS 02-09-2015 10:56 AM
Uprgade vb 3.x to 4.x - Remove vbseo.. Install dbseo or stock vbulletin ?
 
Hello,
I want to upgrade by vbulletin 3.x forum to vbulletin 4.x latest.. Not planning for vbulletin 5.x due to many patches released too soon.. and lot of loading issues, while testing on vbulletin..com I have vbseo still running on vb 3.x but dont want to proceed ahead with same on new 4.x as vbseo is dead. Should i replace vbseo with dbseo ?

Or

Is there someway I can import few customizations made to forumdisplay, showthread and showpost pages in vbulletin 4.x without much trouble..

Also let me know if DBSEO is better option.. as I dont want to waste time in SEO customizations.

SaN-DeeP 02-09-2015 11:05 AM
Interesting question.. Will wait to hear user opinions..

cellarius 02-09-2015 11:17 AM
I have dumped vBSEO some time ago and did not bother with any replacement. If you make sure you have proper redirects in place, you probably won't notice much difference.

Here's my experience: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=316898

Max Taxable 02-09-2015 01:34 PM
vB4 is much more search engine friendly than vB3, which is what led to the demise of VBSEO in the first place. You don't need it.

HM666 02-10-2015 02:40 AM
If you just have to convert your vBSEO URL's you could get the Pro version of DBSEO. It allows for a conversion of vBSEO URL'S pretty easily if you are not all that internet/code/IT savvy.

RaajS 02-11-2015 08:21 AM
I have these important custom URLs, which needs to migrated properly to vbulletin 4
  • showthread
  • showpost
  • forumdisplay
Apart from this I need a Sitemap generator, someway to customized my tag urls if possible (we used zoints tag)

Not sure, If i really need any other gimmics/seo functions from vbseo..

Is this doable on stock vbulletin ?
or
I will have to buy dbseo for this ?

Please guide.

ikopylov 02-11-2015 06:18 PM
It is not completed list, I added quite a bit:
  • showthread ? 2-4 kinds of links
  • showpost ? 2-4 kinds of links
  • forumdisplay ? With or without ID
  • Tags ? With or without ID*
  • Members ? With or without ID*
  • Archive
  • Albums
  • Attachments
  • Blogs, Articles
(I guess I have forgotten something)

* without ID ? especially my favorite. Adds a lot of work. Usually 50-150 of folders with lots of .htaccess files inside

Yes, I forgot, visit the Google webmaster, there you will find a huge list of external links to your site and all they have to work.

cellarius 02-11-2015 08:20 PM
Why ould you create folders with lots of .htaccess files instead of one .htaccess file with proper redirects in place? Even a php file as custom 404 doc with php redirects would be better. Such a file also is the method of choice if no ids are present - you obviously have to query the db then.

ikopylov 02-12-2015 06:54 PM
If the forums without ID that does not work on another

Example:
Code:
www.site.com/forum-name/.... ( name of the forum without IDs )
www.site.com/sub-forum-name/.... ( name of the subforum without IDs )
www.site.com/attachmets/....
www.site.com/album/....
www.site.com/tags/....
www.site.com/members/....
All this will be forwarded to the
Accordingly, all this will create a huge number of errors

This is the most frequently used settings for VBSEO|DBSEO users
And this is the most time-consuming treatment

cellarius 02-12-2015 07:40 PM
Of course what I proposed will work, if done right. Creating subfolders with a .htaccess in it for every forum, subforum and so on is just silly.

ikopylov 02-12-2015 08:50 PM
Why it is impossible to use php script where redirect is generated?
PR weight from the external site is transferred through 301 redirects. But through php, the script could be interpreted by the search engine as a user misleading. Google advices to make 301 redirects to the replaced pages.
The only place, where I use PHP script – the users’ redirect.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2537205)
just silly.
Do you have a smart idea?
Write manual, I'll check on the test site

cellarius 02-15-2015 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikopylov (Post 2537210)
Why it is impossible to use php script where redirect is generated?
I have no idea why this should be the case. I never said it was.
PHP Code:
PR weight from the external site is transferred through 301 redirects. But through php, the script could be interpreted by the search engine as a user misleading. 
Utter nonsense. Google does not care at all how the 301 header is generated, whether by htaccess or by php. What matters is that it is properly in place.
Quote:
Google advices to make 301 redirects to the replaced pages.
Well, of course Google does. So did I. But you sure do not need folders and subfolders in order to do that properly
Quote:
The only place, where I use PHP script ? the users? redirect.
Yes, and that's why you have to create folders, and subfolders, and so on. And that's what I call silly.

Quote:
Do you have a smart idea?
Write manual, I'll check on the test site
I already told you. See #11. And no, I won't write a manual.

fxdigi-cash 03-02-2015 09:30 AM
ok, how about if I want to rewrite url for members from numbers to their names instead.

example: /memberlist/u2383894 --> /memberlist/rapide

The actually name of the member is rapide, but it shows his id + u instead

is there a solution to that??

thetechgenius 03-05-2015 06:19 PM
I would move to DBSEO PRO, it has anything and everything you need for SEO and a few other things. Actually, I think DBSEO was always a lot better then vBSEO on so many levels. And Dragonbyte always keeps DBSEO up-to-date and they continue to work on it to add more features. DBSEO is all you need for SEO, you don't need anything else.

Brandon Sheley 03-05-2015 07:08 PM
I just don't understand why anyone thinks they need a paid script to "SEO" their forum with vbulletin 4.
Haven't we learned our lesson with vbseo vanishing and everyone getting exploited..lol ?


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