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DivisionByZero 11-24-2013 04:30 PM

vBrewrite Sales emails
 
Is anyone else getting emails from "vBRewrite Sales" with subject line: Notice About vBulletin 5 SEO Software? I get the same email at a steady rate of 40 per hour.

ozzy47 11-24-2013 04:31 PM

I have not got such a email.

BirdOPrey5 11-24-2013 04:51 PM

I have not gotten any such email either, but I did hear from someone else who got it- through they only reported 1 email.

When i went to the website, the way it was written did not inspire confidence.

It is not an official vBulletin product or email.

katie hunter 11-24-2013 05:26 PM

Give it sometime ;) the person who is initiating it is a popular VB staff and have experience with Vbseo. It is a start.

Lynne 11-24-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463398)
Give it sometime ;) the person who is initiating it is a popular VB staff and have experience with Vbseo. It is a start.

I don't think it is a member of vB Staff sending out the emails.

BirdOPrey5 11-24-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463398)
Give it sometime ;) the person who is initiating it is a popular VB staff and have experience with Vbseo. It is a start.

If you know who it is maybe you can pass along their mass spamming is getting stuck. Now someone else tells me they got at least 5 copies.

Not a great first impression.

katie hunter 11-24-2013 06:01 PM

I didn't get any spamy email. Rather a direct pm. Lets not try to bash something just because it is new.

We all know how Vbseo started with the mass emails. I received one too back in the days from Vbseo, that is how i found out about it. I am sure if it is an error spam, he will take care of it.

TheLastSuperman 11-24-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynne (Post 2463401)
I don't think it is a member of vB Staff sending out the emails.

It could be someone w/ a mailing list from vBSEO or a hacked site, only way they could get your email addy unless just blindly/randomly sending them but sure is odd a few vB owners received them... coincidence?! I think not! :p

Edit: Actually see Katie's reply above ^ it could also be this person is very dedicated to promoting their product and is finding email addy's legitimately.

medieval56 11-24-2013 06:14 PM

I received almost 100 copies of this e-mail in the last two days. Many (up to few dozen) e-mail addresses are included in each e-mail.

katie hunter 11-24-2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medieval56 (Post 2463412)
I received almost 100 copies of this e-mail in the last two days. Many (up to few dozen) e-mail addresses are included in each e-mail.

40 emails, now 100 ? The numbers doesn't add up here right. No one will send a 100 email of the same email, especially in email marketing. Unless the scrip he is running is stuck in a loop or something, still hard to believe 100 of the same email to the same person.

Can you share a copy of one of the 100's email you received?

BirdOPrey5 11-24-2013 06:52 PM

I got a copy of the email someone forwarded me and it had scores of email addresses listed in the TO field meaning the spammer who sent them didn't even know how to use BCC to hide the other emails they were sending too. If one person on the list 'replies to all' that is dozens of emails generated and you also give away the emails of other people- it is not a good practice for a respectable business.

katie hunter 11-24-2013 06:58 PM

Well i pmed the Vb staff who pmed me asking if this is his software. He just send me the link and told me to check it. May be it is not his and he wanted me to just check it. Will see his reply.

If it is his, i think it is an error because he won't do that.

Guest210212002 11-24-2013 07:15 PM

Been getting them all day long here as well, it's obnoxious.

kylek 11-24-2013 08:39 PM

Had 150 + of the same email last night, started a thread on vb about it. http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...80#post4008880

Finally registered on the site and left message and post to remove my address from his mailing list. There were several others who left same type of messages. See they were removed this morning. Now not getting them anymore. If they dont stop maybe signup with an email you dont use much and post the same thing - remove email from list.

motorhaven 11-24-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463408)
I didn't get any spamy email. Rather a direct pm. Lets not try to bash something just because it is new.

We all know how Vbseo started with the mass emails. I received one too back in the days from Vbseo, that is how i found out about it. I am sure if it is an error spam, he will take care of it.

They deserve to be bashed and not because they are new (they aren't, FYI vbrewrite goes back to 2006). I have received over 20 of these spam emails in the past 48 hours. I didn't ask to be put on his list, I don't want his spam, and I don't want 20 copies (so far) of his spam.

BirdOPrey5 11-25-2013 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463431)
Well i pmed the Vb staff who pmed me asking if this is his software. He just send me the link and told me to check it. May be it is not his and he wanted me to just check it. Will see his reply.

If it is his, i think it is an error because he won't do that.

When you say a VB Staff Member you mean a vBulletin employee?

lazytown 11-25-2013 01:53 AM

Same problem here.. Received at least 100, with all recipients visible.. If this is a US based sender, this would be illegal.

katie hunter 11-25-2013 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2463505)
When you say a VB Staff Member you mean a vBulletin employee?

I think he is. Anyways, i can't comment about this until it is verified.

kylek 11-25-2013 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazytown (Post 2463527)
Same problem here.. Received at least 100, with all recipients visible.. If this is a US based sender, this would be illegal.

Mine show a total of 70 email addresses in the header.

katie hunter 11-25-2013 12:33 PM

Well i can confirm he is one of the Developer involved (: the Vb staff but i can't provide names. Received a reply confirming it.

I did tell him to check their email client though.

Paul M 11-25-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463398)
Give it sometime ;) the person who is initiating it is a popular VB staff and have experience with Vbseo. It is a start.

Really ? who would that be exactly ?

I got 150+, which all went in the bin.

katie hunter 11-25-2013 01:38 PM

Well, you're the devil cat Paul, you should know I suppose.

Paul M 11-25-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463600)
Well, you're the devil cat Paul, you should know I suppose.

I have no idea what thats supposed to mean :confused:
If I knew what you were on about I wouldnt need to ask would I.
So are you going to answer the question, or are you just making this up ?

motorhaven 11-25-2013 02:30 PM

Where would they obtain VBulletin license holder email addresses? Regardless, if it is an employee then it's inappropriate and should be dealt with.

If this turns out to be the case hopefully it's not handled as another CYA situation.

Paul M 11-25-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhaven (Post 2463609)
Where would they obtain VBulletin license holder email addresses?

Given you just spent the last week commenting about the fact the vb.org database was accessed by hackers, its not rocket science to figure out a possible source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorhaven (Post 2463609)
Regardless, if it is an employee then it's inappropriate and should be dealt with.

If this turns out to be the case hopefully it's not handled as another CYA situation.

If you have some evidence, then feel free to share it, otherwise dont start accusing anyone, be they staff, member or otherwise.

I cannot figure out what CYA is supposed to stand for.

ozzy47 11-25-2013 03:04 PM

CYA = cover your arse

Maybe we need Jessie Ventura to investigate. :)

katie hunter 11-25-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 2463604)
I have no idea what thats supposed to mean :confused:
If I knew what you were on about I wouldnt need to ask would I.
So are you going to answer the question, or are you just making this up ?

If the person wishes to reply, he will reply to this thread, but i won't be in the middle of this situation, i just happen to know who it was. I know he is nice and have vb and vbseo experience. So i am not disclosing names.

This is all i can share, the pm reply

Quote:

Yes, vBulletin5 needs much more time however I started to see a more stable now. Don't upgrade until you see that it's the right time for your users and your site.

About if it's mine or not, It's not 100% mine we are more than one but I'm one of them.

Paul M 11-25-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463622)
If the person wishes to reply, he will reply to this thread, but i won't be in the middle of this situation, i just happen to know who it was.

I can understand that, but at the same time, you bought the subject up, and inferred that they were associated with the sending of the e-mails.

What you really mean is that this person is one of a few people associated with the vbrewrite project - other than that, there is nothing to currently link them with the e-mail.

I still have no idea who you mean, but feel free to tell me via PM if you dont wish to post in public.

puertoblack2003 11-25-2013 03:34 PM

well it seems there's another seo program in action http://www.vbrewrite.com/forums/f57/...o-software.28/

BirdOPrey5 11-25-2013 03:44 PM

According to this site- http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/we...on-web-server/

These 4 domains are hosted on the same server-
menaprof.com
vbfoster.com
vbrewrite.com
marcomamdouh.com

vbfoster is a mod on vBulletin.org here-
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=281347

If you go to their website and click the purchase link you get an error that the SSL certificate is registered to vbrewrite, not vbfoster.

So it looks like it is the same people as behind vbfoster.

Paul M 11-25-2013 03:50 PM

All those sites are associated with MARCO1, who used to be part of VBSEO (and not to be confused with Marco who worked for vb.org a few years ago).

Interestingly, the e-mail address my e-mail went too was the one I registered on VBSEO with.

puertoblack2003 11-25-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 2463636)
All those sites are associated with MARCO1, who used to be part of VBSEO (and not to be confused with Marco who worked for vb.org a few years ago).

Interestingly, the e-mail address my e-mail went too was the one I registered on VBSEO with.

good, you cleared that up .Because i was thinking that myself ;)

motorhaven 11-25-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 2463612)
If you have some evidence, then feel free to share it, otherwise dont start accusing anyone, be they staff, member or otherwise.

Where I did accuse anyone? :confused:

JacquiiDesigns 11-25-2013 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463408)
I didn't get any spamy email. Rather a direct pm. Lets not try to bash something just because it is new.

We all know how Vbseo started with the mass emails. I received one too back in the days from Vbseo, that is how i found out about it. I am sure if it is an error spam, he will take care of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463419)
40 emails, now 100 ? The numbers doesn't add up here right. No one will send a 100 email of the same email, especially in email marketing. Unless the scrip he is running is stuck in a loop or something, still hard to believe 100 of the same email to the same person.

Can you share a copy of one of the 100's email you received?

Hmmm - curious. Are you defending these folks?

I got over 100 of these emails. I didn't sign up for their email list. There's no way to unsub from their email list.
There are a dozens more additional emails shown to all recipients. This is obnoxious and bordering on unethical.
Probably quite illegal in some countries as well, yes?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1385418641

Anyway - horrible first impression.
Thanks for the 100+ emails vBRewrite. I'm not interested. Go copulate with yourself.

J.

katie hunter 11-25-2013 10:22 PM

Jacquii, knowing you from the past, your curiosity doesn't concern me.

You can read between the lines, can you?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....2&postcount=27

JacquiiDesigns 11-25-2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463727)
Jacquii, knowing you from the past, your curiosity doesn't concern me.

You can read between the lines, can you?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....2&postcount=27

Katie - not recognizing you from the past - but certainly taken aback from the sordid tone of your current post here... There's absolutely no need to be a condescending smartass!

I didn't ask if you were concerned about my curiosity. I asked if you were defending these folks who sent 100+ unsolicited emails to me and several hundred other vB license holders.

Thanks for your most cryptic non-answer :down:

J.

katie hunter 11-25-2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacquiiDesigns (Post 2463728)
Katie - not recognizing you from the past - but certainly taken aback from the sordid tone of your current post here... There's absolutely no need to be a condescending smartass!

I didn't ask if you were concerned about my curiosity. I asked if you were defending these folks who sent 100+ unsolicited emails to me and several hundred other vB license holders.

Thanks for your most cryptic non-answer :down:

J.

I guess you don't know how to read between the lines.

Whatever.

JacquiiDesigns 11-25-2013 11:31 PM

Allright - so you don't want to be in the middle of craziness. Understood.
But you are. You entwined yourself in it as seen via the 4th post of this thread and your other posts. So I AM curious. This is why I asked you if you were defending them. Obviously going back and reading the obvious ((apparently no reading between lines required)) ==> You are:

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463408)
I didn't get any spamy email. Rather a direct pm. Lets not try to bash something just because it is new.

We all know how Vbseo started with the mass emails. I received one too back in the days from Vbseo, that is how i found out about it. I am sure if it is an error spam, he will take care of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2463419)
40 emails, now 100 ? The numbers doesn't add up here right. No one will send a 100 email of the same email, especially in email marketing. Unless the scrip he is running is stuck in a loop or something, still hard to believe 100 of the same email to the same person.

Can you share a copy of one of the 100's email you received?


Apologies for asking a question which obviously made you defensive. It was not at all my intent, it was honestly ............. wait for it .............. curiosity!

J.

setishock 11-26-2013 03:31 AM

Mass mailings are spam and spam is against the law. And it is not uncommon to get the same garbage over and over. Some spammers go as far as planting a mailer virus on others computers and use them as mass mailers. That would make your email system think it's coming from a different sender each time.

Katie hunter why are you defending this person and their obviously illegal actions?
Makes me wonder if you have something to do with this? Are you helping to send out these emails? Are they paying you to come in here and try to do damage control? If you are then you have access to sensitive and very private user information. You and your friend here at VB should be put out on your collective asses.
If I get one then I know you have something to do with this. Better tell your friend not to send me any emails. It's easy enough to pick the header apart and see where they are coming from.
Then hand that to the Feds.

I'm not rude. I just say what every one else is thinking...

fanyap 11-26-2013 03:50 AM

I got 27 emails from them and I'm very unhappy about it. I will not be buying this product or recommending it to anyone. It's not needed anyways, they just see the dollar signs after vBSEO shut down.

Consistent, unique content is the best SEO.


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