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jscieza 01-18-2011 01:01 PM

AVForums: the vB 3.x forum that looks like XenForo
 
Hi,

AVForums is a forum running vBulletin 3.8.2 but now it looks like XenForo in some parts: http://www.avforums.com/forums/index...=switch_to_exp

Why? From the announcement:

Quote:

Who created it?
I am not a designer, so I employed the guys at Complete vB to create the new look for us. They have create a lot of vBulletin forum designs, came highly recommended and have produced a new look for us which several other design experts have commended.
The implementation of the new design, however, ran into problems as AVForums is such a complex site. To get the new design online, I employed the services of my friend Kier Darby who was the lead developer of vBulletin and is the co-owner of xenForo. To say he is an expert in vBulletin would be a vast understatement. As a result, the new style has been implemented exceptionally well. Kier's design qualifications are also excellent, and he has helped with further tweaks as we approached launch.
Interesting! I wonder how much Kier charges per hour of job. Maybe US$1,000? https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2011/01/13.png

Thank you,
Jonathan

BirdOPrey5 01-19-2011 02:06 AM

It's good Kier is not putting all his eggs in the Xenoro basket.











:D I kid, I kid.... I'm shocked they put so much work into revamping VB3.8 style rather than moving to XF already?

BlackThorn 01-22-2011 04:27 PM

Lol, that's not professional so much but very good job. Whatever, I've maked my site like xenforo so, examples threadbit and postbits and memberinfo and... more.

OldSchoolDSL 01-24-2011 05:46 AM

I personally do not think it looks like XenForo, but that's just my opinion.

Honestly think the theme I'm using (for free), at least follows a closer look

http://www.sociallyuncensored.com/fo....php?styleid=6

Shamil. 01-24-2011 08:16 PM

Trying to make vB look like XenForo is like putting lipstick on a pig.

JacquiiDesigns 01-25-2011 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamil. (Post 2154016)
Trying to make vB look like XenForo is like putting lipstick on a pig.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus (and I'm surprised noone has said this yet) - what's the point?
I'm sorry - I don't get the point of trying to make vBulletin look like xenForo.
It's as silly as trying to make vB look like IPB or vice verse.
If you want a xenForo forum - purchase a xenForo license LOL
I personally could not see shelling out one penny of my money for someone to create me an xF skin for my vB forum. That's just silly to me....

All that aside. I don't think your forum looks like xenForo at all tbh.
If that was the purpose - I'd have to grade it a solid D

Sorry.

Jacquii.

Bubble #5 01-31-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacquiiCooke (Post 2154198)
If you want a xenForo forum - purchase a xenForo license

You're assuming that the only thing that makes up a forum is cosmetic.

The code in vB's foundation is much more secure than a xenForo. This way they have a reliable forum with the look of xenForo (if you're into that kind of thing). I applaud them for experimenting with the design, but it doesn't matter to me either way because the mods at AVForums are all jerks and no amount of forum customization can ever compensate for that. I agree with BirdOPrey5, why put that much effort into 3.8. They should have at least updated vB first and then had that cosmetically changed. Now they've painted themselves into a corner. Looks like the'll be keeping 3.8 for a while :D

JacquiiDesigns 01-31-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2156968)
You're assuming that the only thing that makes up a forum is cosmetic.

The code in vB's foundation is much more secure than a xenForo. This way they have a reliable forum with the look of xenForo (if you're into that kind of thing). I applaud them for experimenting with the design, but it doesn't matter to me either way because the mods at AVForums are all jerks and no amount of forum customization can ever compensate for that. I agree with BirdOPrey5, why put that much effort into 3.8. They should have at least updated vB first and then had that cosmetically changed. Now they've painted themselves into a corner. Looks like the'll be keeping 3.8 for a while :D


And you're assuming that vB 4.x series is worth the purchase price which I insist that it's not LOL - I've spent quite a bit of time customizing my own forums. vB 3.8.6 PL1 is superb in my opinion, while vB 4.x (since the day the gold version was released) is a software that's been full of bugs and probably should not have been made available for public download. Even the newest version seems almost ready to go public for alpha testing LOL

At anyrate - I was indeed commenting on the skin, on the cosmetic changes made to the forum. The OP asked for comments on the cosmetics of the design, not the functionality of vBulletin :)

As for being painted in a corner - my newly redesigned forum has made it into this month's vB.org BOTM voting. The other forum in this month's voting is also running vB 3.8.x series. I like to think that we've painted some fabulous-looking corners ;)

Bubble #5 01-31-2011 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacquiiCooke (Post 2157017)
And you're assuming that vB 4.x series is worth the purchase price which I insist that it's not

I'm not assuming anything. Each person has to decide for themselves if they want to upgrade or not. Apparently quite a lot of people disagree with you as they have already upgraded. If you don't feel comfortable upgrading at this time then don't. I seem to remember that 3.8 had bugs at one time too. These things get worked out, and they'll get worked out with 4.0 too.

Quote:

The OP asked for comments on the cosmetics of the design, not the functionality of vBulletin
You were the one who made the comment about it making more sense to buy a xenForo license. I simply pointed out why they had very good reasons for not doing that, and instead just making their forum look the way it does.

Quote:

As for being painted in a corner - my newly redesigned forum has made it into this month's vB.org BOTM voting.
I was talking about AVForums being painted into a corner. Congratulations on your BOTM submission.

Boofo 01-31-2011 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2157035)
I'm not assuming anything. Each person has to decide for themselves if they want to upgrade or not. Apparently quite a lot of people disagree with you as they have already upgraded. If you don't feel comfortable upgrading at this time then don't. I seem to remember that 3.8 had bugs at one time too. These things get worked out, and they'll get worked out with 4.0 too.

To be honest, if I knew then what I know now, I never would have paid for the upgrade to vb 4. Like everyone else who was hood-winked at the time, we believed in something that is no longer believable. vb 4 will NEVER be as good as 3.8 is/was. Having bugs and fixing them is one thing, but re-introducing the same bugs back into the code over and over again is another.

KW802 01-31-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2157035)
I was talking about AVForums being painted into a corner.

How exactly is AVF "being painted into a corner" by switching to XenForo and, as part of that long term plan, created a style that partly mimics the software they are planning on switching to so that their existing users are slowly eased into the migration?

Doesn't seem to be any corner or paint found.

Bubble #5 01-31-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2157045)
Having bugs and fixing them is one thing, but re-introducing the same bugs back into the code over and over again is another.

Wow if that's the case then that is sad. Didn't a bunch of coders leave vB just before 4.0? ...or maybe it's because vB was bought out. It's certainly not the same feeling as with the original vb.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KW802 (Post 2157056)
How exactly is AVF "being painted into a corner" by switching to XenForo and, as part of that long term plan, created a style that partly mimics the software they are planning on switching to so that their existing users are slowly eased into the migration?

How are they "slowly eased" into migration if the people using the forum don't see the other half? To them the migration has already happened. And if you're saying that they're switching from vB 3.8 to XenForo well, all I can say is no one deserves XenForo more than them :D

JacquiiDesigns 01-31-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2157035)
I was talking about AVForums being painted into a corner. Congratulations on your BOTM submission.

Touche on all accounts and thanks! :)

KW802 01-31-2011 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2157057)
How are they "slowly eased" into migration if the people using the forum don't see the other half? To them the migration has already happened.

No, to their community members a style change has taken place, not a feature change. The migration for them won't be truly felt until they experience feature changes but in the interim the general look & feel that they'll be using in the interim will be close to the general look & feel after the migration.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2157057)
And if you're saying that they're switching from vB 3.8 to XenForo well, all I can say is no one deserves XenForo more than them :D

The fact that they are switching is not exactly a secret if you've ready any of the XF related threads. ;)

Bubble #5 01-31-2011 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacquiiCooke (Post 2157071)
Touche on all accounts and thanks! :)

Just because you're so nice i'll vote for you :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by KW802 (Post 2157075)
No, to their community members a style change has taken place, not a feature change.

So you're saying that every time they add a hack the entire community thinks it's getting a new forum? LOL :p

KW802 01-31-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2157080)
So you're saying that every time they add a hack the entire community thinks it's getting a new forum? LOL :p

Sure you quoted the right person there? No idea what you are trying to say.

TNCclubman 01-31-2011 08:24 PM

This is like those knockoff ferrari's that look like a ferrari until you look under the hood.

KW802 01-31-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNCclubman (Post 2157086)
This is like those knockoff ferrari's that look like a ferrari until you look under the hood.

That'd be a "Fierorari" :D

JacquiiDesigns 01-31-2011 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2157080)
Just because you're so nice i'll vote for you :D

Nice? That's the first time someone has said that to me in ............... decades bwahahahaa

I just didn't feel like arguing - which is lucky for you because it's something I rarely experience ==> I love to argue and I'm good at it. Today must be my lazy day LOL

Thanks for the vote. :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TNCclubman (Post 2157086)
This is like those knockoff ferrari's that look like a ferrari until you look under the hood.

LOL!
And it's not even a particularly good knockoff... IMO, using that same simile, one could say "This is like those knockoff ferrari's that look like a Chevy Citation. Then you look under the hood and it IS a Chevy Citation" https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

Okay - that was likely a bit much - but I'm just not seeing a huge resemblance to xenForo, except for the angular nav breadcrumbs, which can be coded on any vB skin.

Jack.D 03-25-2011 10:03 AM

That Xenforo Looks Nulled http://www.sociallyuncensored.eu/forums/

OldSchoolDSL 03-25-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moehq (Post 2177275)

As I own it, I doubt it.

But you are welcome to report it. In fact it's the responsible thing to do.

vBulletin: http://www.vbulletin.com/piracy.php
XenForo: http://xenforo.com/contact
Invision Power: http://www.invisionpower.com/legal/privacy.php

If you ever believe you have found an illegal and unlicensed copy of any community, posting the link here is only helping promote such a site. The more responsible thing to do is report it. :)


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