Upgrading To Vista 64bit
 

I currently have a Dell Vostro 1700 Laptop with the following specs:

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Business (6.0, Build 6001)

Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090302-1506)

BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A07

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5670 @ 1.80GHz

Memory: 2046MB RAM

DirectX Version: DirectX 10

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT

Dedicated Memory: 241 MB

Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2009/04/31.jpg

I also want 4GB RAM to go with that..

Questions:

How much would it all cost? (? GBP)

Can i run Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit?

Can my laptop handle 64bit OS's?

How much would it cost for DELL to install the 4GB and OS?

Thanks!

hey, read your screeny... 32-bit operating system... all your answers are there, i don't understand why you ask...

Yes, yes you can. Note that you cannot upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit, you must do a fresh install.
Give Dell a call. However, I suggest you just do it yourself, as long as you have some sort of technical knowledge.

Take a look around Google UK for the best prices, I use Dabs.com for a lot of my purchases,you can order RAM and OS from them together.

Im not doing it myself..

Ive seen Vista Buisness to Vista Ultimate..i take it that isnt the 64bit version?
http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna...mfgpid=1182386


If its a fresh install is that wiping my HDD?

you can run the software version of the 64bits if it let you install, but you will miss the performances... i have Vista Ultimate 64b on my Mac, and it does not care what CPU i have, it's a Mac anyway so it does not recognize my Intel... (ok, it's a 128bits SSE4 engine so i don't care)

Save your money and Download the Windows 7 RC this week. Upgrade to that and then upgrade to the final when its released. No reason to go to Vista 64 when Windows 7 will be available soon. Better performance, better user interface, better applications. Windows 7 will even do better with only 2 GB of RAM.

No games are compatible with Windows 7, all i do is gaming..

Mine only has 2 slots both with 1GB in..

in that case you'd have to purchase 2, 2gb sticks of ram, try www.crucial.com they're quite cheap for ram, however it all depends if your motherboard is capable of using 2 gb stick of ram!

Ok,

Here is the pic from crucial.com

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/crucial1.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/crucial2.jpg

I i where to purchase that and get some to install it how much would my system recognize max(32bit,vista business) ? i know its around 3GB but if it is 3GB can i use the other 1GB to be shared GFX memory?

You're joking, right? Which games are you playing?
32-bit OSes can address up to 4 GB of memory. This 4 GB includes things such as RAM, Video RAM, and other things. The "3 GB" you're talking about is an estimate of RAM addressable after taking everything out. Sometimes, people can access up to 3.5 GB of RAM on 32-bit OSes.

What games do you play? I currently have the following games installed and running on Windows 7 (64-bit):

World of Warcraft
Age of Conan (DirectX 10 version)
City of Heroes/Villains
Red Alert 3
Command & Conquer 3

I doubt I would have any problems with other games either. It runs anything I throw at it including old games when I bought when my son was a toddler 15 years ago. Often times there is a performance increase. My computer isn't state of the art (dual-core 2.6 GHZ AMD processor, 6 GB RAM, 320 GB drive, NVIDIA 8600 GT w 512 MB) but I would say there is a 25-30% performance increase in my games over Vista 32-bit.

Doesnt Matter.

Just buying 4GB ram and get someone to fit it when i receive it.

CoD4
CoDWaW
CSS
CS 1.6
Soldier Front (sfront.ijji.com)

How much is windows 7 going to be anyway?

Probably about as much as its going to cost you to upgrade from 32-bit Vista to 64-bit Vista.

I bought vista ultimate full 64 bit when it came out. will I be able to upgrade to windows 7 or will MS charge a fee?

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I bought vista ultimate full 64 bit when it came out. will I be able to upgrade to windows 7 or will MS charge a fee?

You're funnin' us right? :D Of COURSE you'll have to pay to upgrade!

I brought a car last year and when they release the new model im going to get it swapped over so im always up to date (FREE OF COURSE) :)

You can be pretty sure there is an upgrade fee. Especially considering its been more than 2 years since Vista was released and will be close to three years when Windows 7 is sold to the public. The only way you'll get a free upgrade is if you buy a new computer with Windows Vista after they start the Windows 7 version assurance program.

If you want free upgrades on your OS, switch to Linux.

Classic! :D :up:

good for you :rolleyes:

IMO win7 is boggyer (is that a word) than vista

like the saying goes, if it's not broken, don't fix it

Win 32bit can only use 3GB of Ram....

although you may see it shows it can see 4gb, it will only use 3gb. :)


As far as upgrading to 64 bit I would suggest it to anyone who multi task's, I have updated all of my systems to 64 bit and there is a very good performance gain to be had.

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and to add to this, windows 7 will not be released until the 4th quarter of this year at best... most likely 2010 q1

Ok,

I got the 4GB ram on thursday, i then phoned the PC guy and there was no answer phoned him again and still no answer so i couldnt be bothered waiting for i installed it myself..and it worked lol..

Only registers 3.5GB though =(

yes 32 bit systems will only use 3gb, even if you install more. :)

boggyer? Not sure what your trying to convey here.

My Windows 7 system uses less resources and is a lot more responsive than the same computer running Vista. Haven't really had many problems with it. Only issue is that I have to run Firefox in Vista compatibility mode but that is due to GoToMeeting not recognizing OS versions properly.

Again, a 32-bit OS can address up to 4 GB (or more precisely, 4 GiB) of memory. Memory is a generic term covering not only RAM. I never said anything about "seeing" 4 GB of RAM anyway...

Furthermore, under 32-bit Windows, a single application can only access 2 GB of RAM. The kernel "reserves" the rest. (IIRC)

something really wrong with win7

locked up numerous times using kapersky as the virus checker.
And i found it locked up doing other small jobs as well and had to press reset to get back to my other OS.

It looks good but it needs more work (i was using the 64 bit version of win7)

Win7 is working flawlessly (generally), with no showstopper bugs for me. Try running it without Kaspersky and see if the problems go away.

WIN7 has been great for me since they first put it out for beta test. no major bugs at all, and fast. i will be upgrading to the RC asap.

Actually I experienced serious problems with Kapersky as well. Issues don't happen with Norton 360 v.3, Norton Antivirus 2009 or AVG for Windows 7. Seems to be an issue with the beta of Kapersky.

Trendmicro pccillin is smooth sailing with Win7

cheers for that one m8 at least it was`nt just me.

I dont like norton stuff as i class them as bloatware.
Thats the main problem with upgrading - that is getting a virus checker and firewall to work.
Also on a side note - i can get Internet access in Win 7 but for the love of money i cant get a connection to msn (just says server is busy - try again later)

Yet it aint because if i reset and pick my other OS i can connect to MSN straight away.

Exit out of Windows Live Messenger and delete the %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Contacts folder.

It's a known issue if you upgrade one beta version to another.

The win7 RC is available and can be run till 01,June 2010.

I installed the 64bit version on a spare partition and it flies. This is waaaaaaaay better than 64bit Vista .

It picked up and dealt with all the hardware in seconds and has so far run flawlessly all day.

I would definitely not upgrade to Vista 64 at this stage,wait for win7.

running 64 versions of any new OS brings with it new problems.
Software wont install and the one i wanted : Adobe photoshop wont even install on xp 64
Messenger live is another problem program as well as finding decent firewalls and virus checkers that work as well.

Was a fresh format on a new drive for the install of win7 Beta.Still cant log into MSN.

Install the 64-bit version of Photoshop CS4. Works fine.
Use the Windows Live Essentials installer to install Messenger Live. If you're using Windows 7, then you will find the utilities they removed from the OS here as well like Movie Maker and Photo Gallery. Windows Live Writer is a good utility if you blog and can connect to multiple services and standalone applications. Windows Live Mail is a nice replacement for the mail application in Windows.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ant...windows-7.aspx

The list is growing. When the Win7 beta started it only had Norton, McAfee and AVG.

Again make sure you install using the Windows Live Essentials Installer.

The only problem application that I have found is iTunes but that is pretty squarely on Apple and their crappy Windows support built into the application. Heck, It took almost a year after the release of Vista for them to get a version that worked on that OS.

Is there any reason you feel the need to go to a 64 bit?

If all you do is gaming, most games will run in 32 bit and call it a day, very, very few utilize the 64bit.

Also you'll need a 64bit processor, and there isn't any real reason to go to 64bit unless you need over the 4GB of ram.

tried all ways to get messenger to work and none worked.
But ................

Finally got it working by uninstalling it and re-installing it.Very weird but at least got messenger working on windows7

Win7 is very smooth and i prefer this over Vista any day.

My stats are as follows :

AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad Core Processor 2.60 GHZ
Memory *4 gig
64 Bit OS

Yet i only get 4.6 on the windows experience Index
Ive just built this system last week as well as i decided to upgrade to Quad chip from a dual core.
My GFX card is PCI-e (NVIDIA Geforce 8500 GT

In Windows 7, your experience score is going to be limited by the lowest scoring device. In your case its most likely your video card unless your hard drive is dog slow. You would increase that score by dropping a 8800 or 9800 card in there without too much expense.

My graphics card is an 8600 GT and it nets me a 5.3 on the experience scale. I don't think anyone really uses the scale at this time. At least not like Microsoft intended it to be used.