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iogames 04-02-2009 08:20 PM

Will Facebook, Twitter & Qik assists vB's funeral?
 
I've installed a Twitter-like system for some doctors that want to cooperate, and I'm surprise of the concept...

So I thought: vB with its 'cold-static interface' will survive the technology trends?

p.s. and Mr Spock is really dead? :confused:

nexialys 04-02-2009 09:14 PM

Mr Spock is not dead, where did you read that, he is 327 years old now... tsss

the interface can be modified with template edits and css, i don't see why this could be a problem, you know it, you play with your style for so long.. ;)

iogames 04-02-2009 09:39 PM

Tell that to BBS :D

'Nothing last forever...'


p.s. ICQ & mIRC right now live in a Convalescent Home :eek:

nexialys 04-02-2009 09:46 PM

BBS, they were transformed into the actual forums, they are just the same, a place where to chat... the difference is that you do not need your modem to connect to them. i know, i managed some of the biggest bbs in my country in that period, i know where they are gone now...

ICQ is like MSN and AIM, they will just merge into a fluid system... IRC (not mIRC) is just an old text interface, and they announced the vanishment of IRC when Palace arised... looks like Palace died of its own greatness... Online Sims are doing the same... (actually, Palace have a vBulletin for forum... a Visual Chat that needs a forum to help outside the shell...)

all these gadgets are just interfaces that can be changed... using flash, javascript or simple ajax is not different... only one goal, participate in a chat...

personal webpages were no match for Blogs, now blogs are merging with personal pages to make more complete sites... where does this is going?!...

there is no answer, just questions...

iogames 04-02-2009 10:14 PM

even me... I'm aware that I will expire some day ;)

But I recognize that, we are social animals...

TNCclubman 04-02-2009 10:24 PM

Twitter type sites are a fad. Bulletin boards (message boards) have stood the test of time. LOL at something thats been around for 2 years now...lol

Once people realize how much privacy they're giving away, (will happen soon) everyone will stop using them... and go back to just shooting the shit talking about subjects on boards... not letting everyone know they just bought a new pair of thongs and their dog pooped in their soup bowl... and they're stuck in line at Tim Hortons...

iogames 04-02-2009 10:29 PM

yeah my grandpa said the same of the Torinos, and my father of the SF 49rs :D:D:D

TNCclubman 04-03-2009 12:18 AM

I heard the same thing about myspace... then facebook came along... 3 year lifespan they have... BWAHAHAHA

Its Twitter's turn now... and in 2012...

BLIMPERBOOPOO.com

and in 2015... you will still have message boards and myspace will be the area under my bed, and facebook will be a photo album in my drawer....

and twitter is what my roomate will be doing when I come home from work and he's lying on the floor...

KevinL 04-03-2009 01:31 AM

Twitter is like online texting for the whole world. It could stay around for awhile, it seems popular enough haha

But I agree about forums in a way. A lot of places are going for full "communities" with all that crap added into it, and a forum. So, yeah they will out live most fads...but there will always be a place for all those other things.

s0lidgr0und 04-03-2009 07:23 AM

Facebook and Twitter aren't even really the same type of experience as a forum. They don't efficiently support any sort of topic discussion, they just give people a place to document their latest bowel movements or what they're currently eating in their cubicle.

smacklan 04-03-2009 10:59 AM

It's rumored that Google is in talks to buy Twitter...that will be the death of Twitter, not the other way around ;)

@ s0lidgr0und - lmao, I agree 100% with your assessment of those systems ;)

iogames 04-03-2009 12:47 PM

we are talking of a 10 year span, yes I agree, there's a space for all the tastes, but yes all systems got its lifespans...

So you're telling me that with the mobile technology and instant communication and videoconferencing vB is not receding little by little? or just a little...

p.s. is like living on denial 'we will never die', Nexy mentioned, on the digital world systems evolve, but BBS is technically dead :P

GSeybold 04-03-2009 05:59 PM

I think people are getting tired of the internet in general. It seems that this perceived bad economy is making people realize how important other aspects of our lives are and that spending quality time with our loved ones is back in fashion. All these interactive sites will continue for the young ones, but as they age, experience working for a living, maturing, they move on. Conversely, the engine of forums are need based, whether it's fun or for information and of all ages. I don't think a 40 year old man wants to exchange "gifts" on Facebook for any length of time or at all but they'll log into a forum for gaming or prostate cancer information. This is why forums will alway exist. Twitter and Facebook do not have the seqeuntial interactive abilty necessary to facility information based browsing. I find Facebook annoying as hell. I'm sorry I don't want to exchange virtual plants and animals when I'm looking for people or information.

I think the drive-through aspect of forum software will always remain appealing.

Gabby

iogames 04-03-2009 07:57 PM

Wow you almost convince me! but what I meant was:

Even a 80k metal car will expire in less than a decade and you will be playing with the idea of a new one...

we can declare 'even' if you want, we all got good points ;)

p.s. What will not die is the hunger to communicate

hambil 04-03-2009 08:03 PM

Facebook is about connecting to your friends. vBulletin is about building communities with common interests. The two are often not the same at all.

I enjoy things my friends would laugh at me for, or hate, or be embarrassed by.

cheat-master30 04-03-2009 08:06 PM

I don't personally think vBulletin will ever completely die off. It might lose some popularity due to the aspects mentioned (although to be fair, Facebook and Twitter the services are more likely to die than the concepts they're based on, similar software will probably now never completely die out even if said sites do), but vBulletin itself and traditional forums will always have their place. Saying it's ever going to completely die and go out of fashion for everyone is nearly as shallow and mistaken as the views that say, books will die out due to 'radio/TV/the internet'. Not saying vBulletin is as ifluential as a whole medium, but trust me, anything that's ever had popularity still has it's fans, sometimes even whole years after the company behind a product or series goes out of business or shuts down. I know of games being still explored and talked about even say, 20 years after release by a dedicated fanbase, and internet wise, look at Usenet, IRC and I think in some cases BBS systems which are still in use somewhere in the world albeit for a shrinking audience.

iogames 04-03-2009 08:17 PM

Conclusion??? :confused:

cheat-master30 04-03-2009 08:52 PM

You mean for my post? vBulletin will not die out due to Twitter, Facebook and Qik, as it will always have at least some kind of userbase just like every other product, technique, medium and field of interest ever created.

iogames 04-05-2009 10:39 AM

so, from old age? :P

p.s. yes I understand, humans have difficulties dealing with dead

TNCclubman 04-05-2009 10:11 PM

majority wins! Bulletin boards will outlive Twitter and Facebook!

yay!

FreshFroot 04-05-2009 11:35 PM

how can anyone compared vB with FB or twitter?? no offense, but it's un-comparable... simple as that!

iogames 04-06-2009 12:20 PM

Ok so beside God, and vB... what else is eternal? :D

Brandon Sheley 04-06-2009 02:24 PM

twitter isn't a fad ;)
but as stated above, all these can be integrated into our forums, why fight it when we can all live in harmony :D

kevcj 04-06-2009 03:30 PM

To survive, you have to adapt. The people at companies like vbulletin know this. Those employees also have a house note, children, car note, electric bill, water bill - just like the rest of us. The employees at VB have a financial interest in staying with the times.

I am pretty sure that companies like vbulletin will adapt to the changes across social networks. But, I suspect that some of that free forum software will be left in the dust - sooner or later. Something new will come along to replace the old and outdated.

Will forums die off - no. But I suspect that they will change the ways that interface with users.

iogames 04-06-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevcj (Post 1785124)
To survive, you have to adapt. The people at companies like vbulletin know this. Those employees also have a house note, children, car note, electric bill, water bill - just like the rest of us. The employees at VB have a financial interest in staying with the times.

I am pretty sure that companies like vbulletin will adapt to the changes across social networks. But, I suspect that some of that free forum software will be left in the dust - sooner or later. Something new will come along to replace the old and outdated.

Will forums die off - no. But I suspect that they will change the ways that interface with users.

:rolleyes: Mmmh... makes sense...

Se?or Ramos 04-15-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSeybold (Post 1783191)
I think people are getting tired of the internet in general. It seems that this perceived bad economy is making people realize how important other aspects of our lives are and that spending quality time with our loved ones is back in fashion. All these interactive sites will continue for the young ones, but as they age, experience working for a living, maturing, they move on. Conversely, the engine of forums are need based, whether it's fun or for information and of all ages. I don't think a 40 year old man wants to exchange "gifts" on Facebook for any length of time or at all but they'll log into a forum for gaming or prostate cancer information. This is why forums will alway exist. Twitter and Facebook do not have the seqeuntial interactive abilty necessary to facility information based browsing. I find Facebook annoying as hell. I'm sorry I don't want to exchange virtual plants and animals when I'm looking for people or information.

I think the drive-through aspect of forum software will always remain appealing.

Gabby

I was thinking about what I would say, then I read your post. I really don't have any better way to put it. Forums do so much more than Twitter, Facebook or MySpace.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iogames (Post 1783264)
Wow you almost convince me! but what I meant was:

Even a 80k metal car will expire in less than a decade and you will be playing with the idea of a new one...

we can declare 'even' if you want, we all got good points ;)

p.s. What will not die is the hunger to communicate

You're right in that respect, but I feel as though your analogy is being misused. I think it's the difference between getting a new car when your fancy car is getting older, and buying a park bench when your fancy car is getting older. Did that make sense? Things always make less sense to me when I go back and reread it.

iogames 04-15-2009 09:23 PM

the only constant is change...

p.s.

Kihon Kata 04-17-2009 04:36 PM

in 2012, it's the end of the world anyhow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VXa82AuwHU

and

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_night/home.htm
:)

lasto 04-17-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevcj (Post 1785124)
To survive, you have to adapt. The people at companies like vbulletin know this. Those employees also have a house note, children, car note, electric bill, water bill - just like the rest of us. The employees at VB have a financial interest in staying with the times.

I am pretty sure that companies like vbulletin will adapt to the changes across social networks. But, I suspect that some of that free forum software will be left in the dust - sooner or later. Something new will come along to replace the old and outdated.

Will forums die off - no. But I suspect that they will change the ways that interface with users.

totally agree with you m8

Also i dont use Twitter/Facebook for the simple reason they dont appeal to me.
Friends in the past should stay in the past as far as im concerned.
Real and true friends would always know how to contact you without having to look for you on facebook etc.

iogames 04-17-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasto (Post 1793434)
totally agree with you m8

Also i dont use Twitter/Facebook for the simple reason they dont appeal to me.
Friends in the past should stay in the past as far as im concerned.
Real and true friends would always know how to contact you without having to look for you on facebook etc.

your age?

xontec 04-23-2009 05:02 PM

Of course. :)

plazzman 04-23-2009 10:01 PM

Man, I can't wait for the day when Twitter dies, it's absolutely everything that I hate about Facebook and Myspace wrapped up into a neat little highschool trend.

Facebook is about keeping uptodate with friends, but lately they're trying to implement a forum/community type thing recently.

But they're not the same, forum communities changed my mind about internet and internet communities (for the most part lol)

lasto 04-24-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iogames (Post 1793497)
your age?

my age im 31 - whats that got to do with not liking facebook ?

I hate MSN as well - prefer the old chat method of using Irc,does that make me old as well :)

iogames 04-24-2009 07:16 PM

Oh! lasto! :D

yeah u hate too many things :rolleyes:

Ok before I accept that I was totally wrong (this things doesn't happen often here :D although many ppl are wrong) before I make history, I can't accept the idea that men have created something 'eternal' :(

Guest210212002 04-26-2009 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1782713)
BBS, they were transformed into the actual forums, they are just the same, a place where to chat... the difference is that you do not need your modem to connect to them. i know, i managed some of the biggest bbs in my country in that period, i know where they are gone now...

I still have my old BBS backed up in it's entirety, in the Telegard and Celerity versions. On 5.25 floppies, no less.

Kihon Kata 04-26-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris-777 (Post 1799584)
I still have my old BBS backed up in it's entirety, in the Telegard and Celerity versions. On 5.25 floppies, no less.

Major BBS?

Guest210212002 04-26-2009 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kihon Kata (Post 1799602)
Major BBS?

http://bbslist.textfiles.com/508/oldschool.html

Hangar 18 was me. Hard to believe it was that long ago. :(

Wayne Luke 04-27-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSeybold (Post 1783191)
I'm sorry I don't want to exchange virtual plants and animals when I'm looking for people or information.

Why do you have to?

I haven't taken a single quiz on Facebook and usually ignore the gift applications (I think I have accepted three). However I can become a fan of different topics and be updated when there is news on those topics. I can keep in touch with family and friends that I don't get to see a lot due to distance or timing due to work, illness and other factors. It makes it easy for us to share pictures whether we use a service like Flickr, Picasa or Facebook itself. All can be tied into each other. Only have to visit the site a couple times of week because it will notify me if something important happens. We could all join a forum and do this but Facebook is a lot more convenient

On Twitter, I only follow people who post serious information. These include major sites like NPR (National Public Radio), BBC News, CNN News as well as informative blogs and sites on vBulletin, Wordpress, Drupal, etc... I let the people I follow point me towards articles that I might want to read. I don't even have to visit the website. If I find something that I think is interesting, then I forward it or retweet it and it automatically gets picked up by my personal blog and Facebook.

Forums on the other hand are great for getting support questions answered whether its software support, finding out information on the new Pokemon game, learning how to prune apricot trees and more. However Forums don't make a website anymore and you need to add more content and be up to date if you want to compete in your niche or are just starting out.

Though you can easily use Facebook, Twitter and all the other social networking site to promote your forums. You can use these promote them to people who would never otherwise find them because you rank 95th for gizmos and gadgets on Google. Facebook alone has over 200 million people. If you avoid it without even knowing what it is and think it is some teen-fad then your limiting the potential of your website. Promoting a forum is all about word of mouth and referral recognition. Social Networks are all about viral networking. Networking has been around as long as man-kind has done business. These sites just bring it online. It is not much different than going to a business luncheon in your city to meet new people and promote your ideas or going to a tradeshow/conference to do the same thing. Avoiding social networking though is like closing a lot of doors that could lead to opportunity. Or you could continue to fight against companies that throw tens of thousands at page ranking every month and have hundreds of new domains linking to their sites every month.

To put it into perspective, forwarding one good thread to Twitter with 100 followers can result in dozens of blog posts linking to your site drawing in audiences that you never knew you had.


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