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matt_s 01-16-2008 04:44 PM

1&1- Hosting...
 
Ive already reg a second Domain and want to set up a Forum site so I was recommended to vBulletin. Ive looked around this pre-sales forum and found not much on diff hosting.

Also saw some CM threads and not sure where to head with that. I already had someone design a good site and its hosted on 1&1 with joomla, but I did none of the install and pretty much just look after updates.

Any help?

Dismounted 01-17-2008 02:54 AM

What is your actual question? You don't seem to ask a question...

matt_s 01-17-2008 09:43 PM

yep... didnt notice it like that...

Is what I said correct?

Was more or less looking for validation before I make the purchase.

gersultan 01-18-2008 12:41 AM

aktually i build up a vB on a 1&1-Rootserver and it runs well. Was this the question?

matt_s 01-18-2008 05:49 AM

If what I said is not incorrect, then I guess I dont really know where to start :lol:

Q;
What is the best route to get vBulletin started in the 1&1 control pannel.
I will be honnest, im more qualified to install a domain server then set-up a forum.

u can call me a noob if ya want.

Marco van Herwaarden 01-18-2008 06:08 AM

If i remember correct, 1&1 does limit database size to 100Mb on shared accounts, which will give you problems in the long run.

Questions on how to install vBulletin can be answered once you have purchased a license.

B_Pages 01-18-2008 11:38 AM

1 and 1 is the worst company I have ever dealt with, try host gator for hosting...

matt_s 01-18-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Pages (Post 1423723)
1 and 1 is the worst company I have ever dealt with, try host gator for hosting...

The developer for a site that I already have use 1&1 and set me up, I have a contract with 1&1 and have the domain reg that I want to build the forum for. In the future I will be looking for a faster option, but right now $$ is what counts as I am not looking for the site to build revenue.


I just didnt expect to have to buy vB before I could look over the install to make sure I could install it with my current hosting. Im sure there is some good reasons why the install is not made public, but that has kept me hesitant on the purchase so far.

SVTCobraLTD 01-18-2008 07:36 PM

I used the 1and1.com business package and did not like it. Not only it is hard to deal with their tech support if you need it but the mysql database only allowed 100mb. So I switched to hostgator and no problems. I say ditch 1and1.com and find someone else. Your site will not be allowed to grow large with 1and1. But vB will work on there as I had running on there for a year or so.

SVT

petteyg359 01-18-2008 10:11 PM

1and1 shared hosting plans aren't very good IMHO, however, their customer support is extremely good. Their VPS plans, however, are a much better value compared to other hosts. If you plan on sticking with shared hosting, I'd recommend HostMonster (600GB space, 6TB/month, 100 databases (no size limitation), unlimited subdomains). If you plan on staying with 1and1 I'd recommend upgrading to a VPS or dedicated account. If you do switch to another host, keep 1and1 for the domain package (even if you don't use their hosting packages), as 1and1 has the lowest price on domains I've ever found.

Veneti 01-27-2008 07:31 AM

Yes, I absolutely DESPISE one and one. Never Never will I deal with them. (And I mean never).

Anyone but 1 & 1.

I go with Hostgator as its US dollar based (Its therefore very cheap) and no Vat (As I'm UK based). Their backend scripts are always up to date.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by petteyg359 (Post 1424051)
1and1 shared hosting plans aren't very good IMHO, however, their customer support is extremely good. Their VPS plans, however, are a much better value compared to other hosts. If you plan on sticking with shared hosting, I'd recommend HostMonster (600GB space, 6TB/month, 100 databases (no size limitation), unlimited subdomains). If you plan on staying with 1and1 I'd recommend upgrading to a VPS or dedicated account. If you do switch to another host, keep 1and1 for the domain package (even if you don't use their hosting packages), as 1and1 has the lowest price on domains I've ever found.


You're wrong on the domain costs. GoDaddy.com and Enom.com (I believe as well) in the US, smoke 1 & 1 on domain prices.

Although those ****** at 1 & 1 have allowed US based domain buyers to purchase at rates far lower than they sell in Europe and YOU MUST have a US address to buy them at that lower price.

Everything about 1 & 1 to me is unethical (I've had packages with them and all sorts) NEVER NEVER NEVER again.

petteyg359 02-03-2008 06:14 PM

Veneti, explain to me please how anything domain other than .info on godaddy is cheaper than 1and1. $9.99 for com or net, $8.99 for org on godaddy, compared to $6.12 (sale, reg $6.99) for everything but biz or ws on 1and1. The only way godaddy's domain prices are better is if you get hosting from them, and their pricing on shared hosting is absolutely hideous. Enom doesn't even seem to list their prices (every comparison I've seen shows Enom as charging an astounding $30 per year for .com).

crocodile 03-21-2008 08:52 AM

don't host with 1&1, they don't allow you grow larger, and if you got more user online at once, they will cut your site, 100Mb sql limited is terrible, it's can only for newbie to take try, play

SEOvB 03-21-2008 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petteyg359 (Post 1435532)
Veneti, explain to me please how anything domain other than .info on godaddy is cheaper than 1and1. $9.99 for com or net, $8.99 for org on godaddy, compared to $6.12 (sale, reg $6.99) for everything but biz or ws on 1and1. The only way godaddy's domain prices are better is if you get hosting from them, and their pricing on shared hosting is absolutely hideous. Enom doesn't even seem to list their prices (every comparison I've seen shows Enom as charging an astounding $30 per year for .com).

Try to transfer your domains away from 1&1 and you'll wish you payed the extra $2

WEBDosser 03-21-2008 09:13 AM

namecheap for domain names..

http://www.namecheap.com

*** No self-promotion ***

ExTincTi0N 03-21-2008 06:28 PM

Here is some advice for ya.
1&1 is a bad hosting server.
My friend TechDawg who owns Iridethelines.com uses it and, for some time he had to turn off avatars, change the pm limit to 25 from 100, all becuase 1&1 dosn't give out enough mySql.
So if you ever get a big site i would suggest to change hosts. He has over 50,000 users and has been open for one year.

Bilderback 03-21-2008 06:41 PM

I began with 1and1 until recently when their server was rooted and cost myself and other shared customers on the same server, time, money and data loss.
They could not even provide me with a server backup so I lost 2 years of data.
Now, I keep my domain registration with 1and1 since they are cheap
($6.99 with free private registration and 2GB mail account)
but I host at GoDaddy by setting off site DNS.
You will run into problems with database size in the long run as said previously
but if you still insist on hosting with 1and1,
the control panel is quite self explanitory.
  • Create a database through MySQL Administration
  • Create a folder for your site and upload VB via FTP
    • If you plan to have a front end CMS, I suggest putting VB in folder named forums
  • Set your domain to point to that folder in Domain Management.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by WEBDosser (Post 1470548)
namecheap for domain names..
http://www.namecheap.com

not really that cheap
Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Pages (Post 1423723)
1 and 1 is the worst company I have ever dealt with, try host gator for hosting...

Thank you- Host Gator looks very promising

ExTincTi0N 03-21-2008 06:52 PM

Yes host gator is very promising thats what i am using right now. Two of the three packages give you unlimited bandwidth and other great things.

cfitzarl 03-21-2008 07:31 PM

I had no good experiences with 1&1

Shazz 03-21-2008 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExTincTi0N (Post 1470951)
Here is some advice for ya.
1&1 is a bad hosting server.
My friend TechDawg who owns Iridethelines.com uses it and, for some time he had to turn off avatars, change the pm limit to 25 from 100, all becuase 1&1 dosn't give out enough mySql.
So if you ever get a big site i would suggest to change hosts. He has over 50,000 users and has been open for one year.

1&1 have good hosting servers, just not for vBulletin

NeuroLancer 03-22-2008 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExTincTi0N (Post 1470951)
My friend TechDawg who owns Iridethelines.com uses it and, for some time he had to turn off avatars, change the pm limit to 25 from 100, all becuase 1&1 dosn't give out enough mySql.

Then he should serve images from the file system not the database. 1&1 plans give more than enough disk space.

ExTincTi0N 03-22-2008 03:47 AM

Not if you have 50,000 members that have avatars reaching the max limit.

Marco van Herwaarden 03-22-2008 07:44 AM

Guys this is the Pre-Sales section.

For further experiences on hosting, please use the General Hosting/Server Discussions forum.


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