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NLP-er 06-26-2009 12:41 AM

One more thing - are you good enough or is it possible to include new translated links into sitemap generated by vbSEO sitemap generator?

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLP-er (Post 1837513)
One more thing - are you good enough or is it possible to include new translated links into sitemap generated by vbSEO sitemap generator?

Here is my thread over at vbseo, you need to add all your languages to the code as just 2 are in there and this will only add showthread pages, you'll need to ask them how to add any others. Thanks.

http://www.vbseo.com/f66/adding-some...34/#post219430

jarosciak 06-26-2009 01:30 PM

Those getting blank page, this may help you.
I couldn't find an answer and started to check the programming when I've realized this script is using CURL, which I haven't enabled in php.ini.
I've added this into my php.ini:

[PHP_CURL]
extension=php_curl.dll


/of course this requires php_curl.dll to be available in your php ext directory/

And it all started to work.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosciak (Post 1837827)
Those getting blank page, this may help you.
I couldn't find an answer and started to check the programming when I've realized this script is using CURL, which I haven't enabled in php.ini.
I've added this into my php.ini:

[PHP_CURL]
extension=php_curl.dll


/of course this requires php_curl.dll to be available in your php ext directory/

And it all started to work.

Well spotted, thanks for pointing this out.

jarosciak 06-26-2009 02:03 PM

Thanks Dave.

Anyways, I had a question.
I have a forum with close to 1 million posts, so I expect translating to take a lot of time, but after a quite a long time loading the page, I get this message when I try to translate the page to let say German:
Sorry, Sie müssen Javascript aktivieren, damit diese Website.
which basically means:
Sorry, you must have javascript enabled to view this site.

What do I do? I don't think my javascript is disabled.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosciak (Post 1837861)
Thanks Dave.

Anyways, I had a question.
I have a forum with close to 1 million posts, so I expect translating to take a lot of time, but after a quite a long time loading the page, I get this message when I try to translate the page to let say German:
Sorry, Sie m?ssen Javascript aktivieren, damit diese Website.
which basically means:
Sorry, you must have javascript enabled to view this site.

What do I do? I don't think my javascript is disabled.

What is the forum URL?

chris1979 06-26-2009 03:18 PM

Thanks for that, jarosciak. There may be some hope for us now. :)

If I can work out how to edit the php.ini file. :D

jarosciak 06-26-2009 03:26 PM

I've pm-ed you with url. Please look at it.

NLP-er 06-26-2009 03:35 PM

I installed mod at night and today get over 250 mails about DB errors:

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.2:

Invalid SQL:

UPDATE session
SET lastactivity = 1246032811, location = '/?hl=zh-CN', inforum = 0, inthread = 0, incalendar = 0, badlocation = 0
WHERE sessionhash = '566836506c3206d7db38c478aeac3808';

MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number : 2006
Request Date : Friday, June 26th 2009 @ 06:13:31 PM
Error Date : Friday, June 26th 2009 @ 06:18:23 PM
Script : http://www.forum.simple-nlp.pl/?hl=zh-CN
Referrer :
IP Address : zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Username : Nie zarejestrowany
Classname : vB_Database
MySQL Version :

Is it coused by this plugin?

mikey1991 06-26-2009 03:56 PM

Great Idea :)

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLP-er (Post 1837899)
I installed mod at night and today get over 250 mails about DB errors:

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.2:

Invalid SQL:

UPDATE session
SET lastactivity = 1246032811, location = '/?hl=zh-CN', inforum = 0, inthread = 0, incalendar = 0, badlocation = 0
WHERE sessionhash = '566836506c3206d7db38c478aeac3808';

MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number : 2006
Request Date : Friday, June 26th 2009 @ 06:13:31 PM
Error Date : Friday, June 26th 2009 @ 06:18:23 PM
Script : http://www.forum.simple-nlp.pl/?hl=zh-CN
Referrer :
IP Address : zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Username : Nie zarejestrowany
Classname : vB_Database
MySQL Version :

Is it coused by this plugin?

Yes, you can ignore them, they are false, we are working on a fix.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris1979 (Post 1837888)
Thanks for that, jarosciak. There may be some hope for us now. :)

If I can work out how to edit the php.ini file. :D

Speak to your host!

jarosciak 06-26-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid (Post 1837865)
What is the forum URL?

I've fixed the problem now.
It had to do with one of the proxy settings specific to my board only.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosciak (Post 1837935)
I've fixed the problem now.
It had to do with one of the proxy settings specific to my board only.


Yep, looks to be working well on your site, congrats! ;)

jarosciak 06-26-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid (Post 1837939)
Yep, looks to be working well on your site, congrats! ;)

Yup, seems to be working nicely.

I hope additional 22 million posts in different languages won't get my site banned in Google for sudden influx of pages..

I've wanted to ask how does this script translates pages. Does it work constantly on all pages (1 post to last) or it only works when someone clicks the translation flag?

BTW. I took off your link from the top menu, it was confusing to see one of the translation flags to point to another site. I am willing to send a small donation as a gesture of appreciation.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosciak (Post 1837993)
Yup, seems to be working nicely.

I hope additional 22 million posts in different languages won't get my site banned in Google for sudden influx of pages..

I've wanted to ask how does this script translates pages. Does it work constantly on all pages (1 post to last) or it only works when someone clicks the translation flag?

BTW. I took off your link from the top menu, it was confusing to see one of the translation flags to point to another site. I am willing to send a small donation as a gesture of appreciation.

Bite me.

I'm going to discontinue this product soon because of people like YOU!

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 06:34 PM

Small update:

Replace your plugin code with this, fixes the lang="country" meta tag issue and a few issues with special characters.

Code:

REMOVED

jarosciak 06-26-2009 07:18 PM

Dave, I don't mind linking to you. Don't take me wrong. I in-fact would see no problem pointing a link to you, even that other developers with much more complex scripts than yours do not require anything similar. Your script is a nice idea, but still it's fairly simple programming even for an average programmer.

So again. I am more than willing to send you a small donation and I am not alone among those who liked your script. All I want is to get rid of your annoying implementation of a completely misleading and badly positioned translation flag (in the middle of all language flags), which does not translate anything, but rather links to your side. It feels like a scam and it's not professional, so don't be upset.

So, I took it out and I've followed a very simple logic. On the forum where I have implemented this, I have hundreds of thousands of pages and close to a million page views a month, and it would simply be too generous to link to your site from all the pages. And even if I wanted to, I would do it, because your implementation of linking feels more like spam than a promotion. So why would I do so? For a simple script you wrote? You have to realize, that people pay hundreds of dollars a year for linking from sites with lot of traffic.
And I am not talking about my other forum, where I have over 20 million posts and where a month of linking to someone's site cost over $1000/month. Is your script worth that? Simple answer: NO.

So same as others, who offered you a same deal, I gave you an option of donation, or changing the script. So, please don't be greedy and rather recognize the needs of your fans and people who actually want to support you. If you think it's worth, you could even be selling this script, why not? I'd buy it, with an option to get rid of the link of course.

Regarding you saying how much you have supported me. Don't be ridiculous. I've asked two questions and you didn't give me any support, both issues I had I figured out myself and even posted on your script's page the solution to help other members, who had the same problem and didn't get any answer. Even you recognized my tip by saying thanks.

So again, accept donations, sell the script or change the way you link to your pages so it's not misleading to our members, or come up with some other solution to this obvious clash of opinions, because as you can see, I am not alone complaining.

This is free sharing of mods and most developers of vbulletin mods are famous not by insulting their fans, but rather by being nice and polite, which eventually shows by marked number of installations and lot of downloads.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 07:22 PM

People like you ruin free opensource. You have no idea how much work is involved, right now I'm paying a coder $100's to fix issues with database speed. You said I'm a scam, it's a linkback stop being so dramatic. Also links go for dollars, not thousands, i dont know where you get that from. If you get these pages indexed you get traffic, that traffic can earn you $1,000's so there is my 'payment' for the link. Either way it was a credit link and you removed it, did leaving it in really hurt you that bad. No. You're just being selfish and trying to justify it. Also how is getting support then telling me you are removing credit nice and polite, what goes around comes around buddy. I suggest you start practicing what you preach. Hypocrite.

Coop1979 06-26-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosciak (Post 1838030)
Dave, I don't mind linking to you. Don't take me wrong. I in-fact would see no problem pointing a link to you, even that other developers with much more complex scripts than yours do not require anything similar. Your script is a nice idea, but still it's fairly simple programming even for an average programmer.


So again. I am more than willing to send you a small donation and I am not alone among those who liked your script. All I want is to get rid of your annoying implementation of a completely misleading and badly positioned translation flag (in the middle of all language flags), which does not translate anything, but rather links to your side. It feels like a scam and it's not professional, so don't be upset.

So, I took it out and I've followed a very simple logic. On the forum where I have implemented this, I have hundreds of thousands of pages and close to a million page views a month, and it would simply be too generous to link to your site from all the pages. And even if I wanted to, I would do it, because your implementation of linking feels more like spam than a promotion. So why would I do so? For a simple script you wrote? You have to realize, that people pay hundreds of dollars a year for linking from sites with lot of traffic.
And I am not talking about my other forum, where I have over 20 million posts and where a month of linking to someone's site cost over $1000/month. Is your script worth that? Simple answer: NO.

So same as others, who offered you a same deal, I gave you an option of donation, or changing the script. So, please don't be greedy and rather recognize the needs of your fans and people who actually want to support you. If you think it's worth, you could even be selling this script, why not? I'd buy it, with an option to get rid of the link of course.

Regarding you saying how much you have supported me. Don't be ridiculous. I've asked two questions and you didn't give me any support, both issues I had I figured out myself and even posted on your script's page the solution to help other members, who had the same problem and didn't get any answer. Even you recognized my tip by saying thanks.

So again, accept donations, sell the script or change the way you link to your pages so it's not misleading to our members, or come up with some other solution to this obvious clash of opinions, because as you can see, I am not alone complaining.

This is free sharing of mods and most developers of vbulletin mods are famous not by insulting their fans, but rather by being nice and polite, which eventually shows by marked number of installations and lot of downloads.

+1 :up:

jarosciak 06-26-2009 07:34 PM

Dave, your problem is that you do not listen to what your fans (I am still one of them, but not for long) have to say.

I offered to pay you for the script, to get rid of linking by sending a donation. And you are on and on about everything else, skipping and completely overlooking important topics like ridiculous implementation of your linking.

Guys, am I alone here? Or do you also find problems with Dave attitude? :eek:

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 07:37 PM

And you didn't listen to anything I said.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 07:43 PM

My attitude? Your the one dictating that i take money to remove the link. I have to accept or you'll remove it anyway. That was not on offer, i added a discreet credit link, discreet not so you couldn't find it but so it didn't tarnish the look of anyones forum. If you didn't like what was on offer, don't use the product.

jarosciak 06-26-2009 07:44 PM

Dave,

translateflags.php has a problem with default language settings.

Line for English (my default language) is adding this code to the end of my existing English pages: "&hl=en"

This creates double posts, because, example:
forum.com/showthread.php?t=59894&hl=en
is the same thing as:
forum.com/showthread.php?t=59894

Google would recognize this as two different pages and eventually ban my site for duplicate posting.

THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

I've fixed this issue on my site already, by amending the line and getting rid of &hl=en references.

Dave, amend your code so your script doesn't get people's website banned or penalized by Google.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 07:47 PM

Anyway, i tired of this, giving something away isn't meant to make me feel used all the time.

So, the update that I am testing that fixes the database errors and speed is not getting released, it's cost me hundreds to code and you're all so ungrateful.

The current version is only good for small 1k thread sites, as the db grows it grinds to a halt and crashes.

Happy now.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosciak (Post 1838058)
Dave,

translateflags.php has a problem with default language settings.

Line for English (my default language) is adding this code to the end of my existing English pages: "&hl=en"

This creates double posts, because, example:
forum.com/showthread.php?t=59894&hl=en
is the same thing as:
forum.com/showthread.php?t=59894

Google would recognize this as two different pages and eventually ban my site for duplicate posting.

THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

I've fixed this issue on my site already, by amending the line and getting rid of &hl=en references.

Dave, amend your code so your script doesn't get people's website banned or penalized by Google.

Banned hahhaha, more drama with you.

Google is smart enough to see this and just discount the duplicate, any SEO knows that, you noob.

You support it, you leech.

Whatever, im done, enjoy your buggy script.

chris1979 06-26-2009 09:04 PM

I can't believe anyone is complaining. This is a great idea which many people have wanted for a long time and Dave has made it work, and for free, and he's even here helping people for free too.

It's obvious that the condition for using the mod is that he wants a link, so either give him the link or don't use his mod. It's easy. Anyone who whines is just forgetting who did the work to make this mod available to us.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 09:11 PM

It's over, dead, im not interested, i will never relese another thing. sorry.

barcena 06-26-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid (Post 1837448)
So your base language is Polish and when transalting to all other languages some polish words are skipped, correct.

What about on my test site going from english to polish, are the words correct?

http://www.blogboost.org/showthread.php?t=1&hl=pl

Thanks.

I'd translate the page into Spanish and the translation is not that good, of course, is a google translator, one of the phrases f.i shows the adults the best way to eat their kids, lol, but that's not a developer problem and I guess the meanng of this mod is not for people of other languages to actually post or participated from the forum but for indexes purposes.

As far as the special characters they are showig, like ? and accents ?, ?, etc.

I'm not criticizing, i'm trying to help out the developer, if we don't tell him what's going on he won't know.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 09:34 PM

I posted a fix for this tonight, but due to some ungrateful ppl i have revoked the script and all support. Also, the version i was due to release in a few days was to fix the current bigger bug of speed, so, i would uninstall as the current version is no good and a new on is not coming.

jarosciak 06-26-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid (Post 1838063)
Banned hahhaha, more drama with you.

Google is smart enough to see this and just discount the duplicate, any SEO knows that, you noob.

You support it, you leech.

Whatever, im done, enjoy your buggy script.


Don't call me names, I didn't do anything wrong.
I asked you to change the way you want me to link to you, that's all.
Offered to pay for your script and also offer to donate money to you.

Regarding being banned by Google for duplicate content, it's very simple:

I've seen two sites so far banned for duplicate content, just by adding a single new variable to the end of url. Exactly the samething as you're doing.

It may happen, or may not, but I've mentioned it, because it's a simple fix and people should know about it, to prevent such action rather then eventually being sorry about installing your script.

Google page to read more on this topic:
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=66359

Highlighted portions screenshot:
Attachment 101136

jarosciak 06-26-2009 10:20 PM

Dave, just to ease you a little bit. What if I added a link to your forum to a bottom footer of my page. Normally I have couple users there paying approx. $100/Month for such links, to gain Google relevance or to get quickly indexed.
Would that work for you.
Please understand, I don't want some made up flag sitting in the middle of language flags, misleading people into clicking on it.
Surely you can see the point in what I am saying.

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosciak (Post 1838110)
Don't call me names, I didn't do anything wrong.
I asked you to change the way you want me to link to you, that's all.
Offered to pay for your script and also offer to donate money to you.

Regarding being banned by Google for duplicate content, it's very simple:

I've seen two sites so far banned for duplicate content, just by adding a single new variable to the end of url. Exactly the samething as you're doing.

It may happen, or may not, but I've mentioned it, because it's a simple fix and people should know about it, to prevent such action rather then eventually being sorry about installing your script.

Google page to read more on this topic:
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=66359

Highlighted portions screenshot:
Attachment 101136

Did you miss the bit where it said it would pick one and rank that and discard the rest. Your being dramatic, it was a bug, but saying my script will get you banned is horse shit.

joh 06-26-2009 10:28 PM

does this have any files to download because I do not see them

Dave Hybrid 06-26-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joh (Post 1838114)
does this have any files to download because I do not see them

You're a little late to the party, the script has been discontinued.

joh 06-26-2009 10:38 PM

ok, thank you.

Megatr0n 06-26-2009 10:55 PM

Hi David,

Sorry to hear you're discontinuing the script.


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