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@Dean C - you didn?t read the GPL didn?t you ?

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But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it.

Zachery?s Hack isn?t runable without the PJIRC Files in it - so it is under the GPL.
Zachery has broken the GPL and the Copyright of PJIRC if he does?nt release his Hack under the GPL too. That?s a Fact.

Sorry Zachery - but you are the only example here with a Hack under the GPL. It?s nothing personal. But i think it is important to get clearness in this Thread ..

And @Dean C you didn?t read my complete Postings :

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1. We ask the Coder of the Hack if we can translate and distribute it.

2. If that not works we ask only to translate and give him the Package to distribute it on vbulletin.org. We will make than a german Supportthread at vbhacks-germany.de of course.

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Originally Posted by Revan

I know, but I am saying that while I would not like to have the hack offered on another site,

@Revan - is this what you wan?t to tell the german Users that are interested into your Hack but can?t speak english ? Think about it ..... we are not offering. We are providing Service for you (Translating and Marketing in another Language and in another Country) and Service for german Users.
Where is the Problem for you ???

The copyright of this site doesn't apply to hacks which are under GPL.

As redlabour said (and me just before) without PJIRC vbxirc is useless, and must be under GPL licence. Nothing to argue, just read the licence, it's obvious. Then redlabour can distribute the translation only on vbulletin.org by courtesy, but he doesn't have to...

Without vBulletin, vbxirc is useless, therefore you cannot redistribute it based on the GPL license...

Not the good way. You should say without vbxirc vbulletin is useless (we know it's not the case ;)) and vbulletin would be under GPL licence (just a joke ...).

@Dean C ... Hmmm...without OpenOffice my Windows is useless. So OpenOffice has to be under a M$ Licencse ?? :D

Sorry, but the last Thing you wrote was absolutely -> :ninja: ! ;) :D

I voted that I don't want my hacks translated and reposted. Why? Because if something is released under my name, I want to control the quality of it.

Amy

first let me say i don't get the openoffice bit :/ and that windows sucks

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b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.

c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)

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Thus, it is not the intent of this section to claim rights or contest your rights to work written entirely by you; rather, the intent is to exercise the right to control the distribution of derivative or collective works based on the Program.

In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under the scope of this License.

that is where whatever his name got the part he quote from the GPL

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Originally Posted by redlabour

@Dean C ... Hmmm...without OpenOffice my Windows is useless. So OpenOffice has to be under a M$ Licencse ?? :D

Sorry, but the last Thing you wrote was absolutely -> :ninja: ! ;) :D

That should be the otherway around I guess ^^

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Originally Posted by redlabour

And similar I ask, what is the problem with just releasing .xml files and tell the users how to download/install the hack?
The whole point of making a hack $vbphrase'd is to be able to provide support for additional languages - and this is what I have been stating I am all for, all along.
What I am against is the taking of the php files, and reposted (although under 100% credit to me) at another site in a language I can only somewhat hold my own in.
Is this difficult to understand? Is this not the entire point of creating .xml files, why the invention of the Phrase system itself?
If you download vBulletin in German, apart from possibly the comments, the .php files changed bugger all. The .xml files changed, and the Phrase language changed. Why would you want to redistribute .php files, when there are those of us who (slowly, but eventually) will make their entire hack fully phrased, and easy to translate?

If you wish to contact me and seek permission for any of my hacks then I see no reason I would not be happy to allow translation of them via option 2.

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2. If that not works we ask only to translate and give him the Package to distribute it on vbulletin.org. We will make than a german Supportthread at vbhacks-germany.de of course.

However, don't bother in the next 7 days as I'm not going to be around. ;)

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