Oi .. all that singing is making u fuzzy wuzzy :) Please, read what was typed ;) I was stating that on most freelance sites they bid in public

to add to the $1000-2000 quote was for scripts that had already been written and which I already own .. for their integration with vB .. so it is an even better quote

with that said, it would be great to have a system put into place that could benefit both coder and purchaser

I say lock the threads, that is what vbullein.org is getting known for........any content that doesn't agree with a person's moral's, are then locked and/or moved.......

I have to agree, in a "LOUNGE", the coversation should be able to go to just about anything without being closed.....but it isn't my site, so LOCK em down....

LOL @ hotwheels

Personally I don't agree with locking/closing/splitting threads at all. I feel that there are ways to bring a thread back on topic, without getting people all riled up because their post was deleted or the thread was split. And they DO get riled up, not just here, but other sites too.

:eek:

seriously, you can check my site...........People can say what they want, how ever they want too......I have rant rooms, b.s. rooms, etc.....I even have a talker bot that use's profanity.

I have found that more people like having a bit of freedom when it come's to talking/chatting on the internet. Life is way to serious to close thread's because it may be harmful content.....

Now, i am not saying that people should talk shit in a new thread here, when a mod doesn't work like it should, but in a lounge, they should be able to talk away about just about anything, within reason of race, color, religion, etc.....

But it has been really bad over here lately and i really like it here......thread's are closed by mod's or moved, because of a moderator's personal belief's or feeling's.....which to me, isn't right.....Some of the moderator's, need to get a little thicker skin and understand that people are ALL different and believe in different way's. Which also mean's, people tend to express themselve's differently......

As i stated earliery though, it isn't my site, so LOCKEM down.....I just feel lucky that we still have a few coder's left that are willing to share their work with us.....I know i have tried to work with these php code's and it's not easy, so i have a great appreciation on this site for that talent.

hotwheels

I like your attitude and agree with you. The problem I feel is this site unfortunately when it comes to things like this is split down the middle and always will be. Because on one side of the coin you have coders and the other side none coders. Which is a problem when it comes to agreeing on something. But I do agree with the part about some mods should leave there personal beliefs at home when moderating here, and try to have a much more open view about situations without letting there own self beliefs sway there comments. At the end of the day all we want is more protection for the person buying the hack (end user). And if that means the hack threads should be made public to make others more aware when things go wrong as a warning to others to see and read.

Thats the way it should be.

Whenever a member of staff get's it wrong they are right. I once read a topic "community helping the community" in the announcements when things started getting hectic in the feedback area what ever happened to that philosphy? when did that stop? was this a way of trying to control your members? Obviously people can't go to the staff, they just don't want to know so they try to handle it themselves which is exactly what they were doing.

Like I said before when the staff get it wrong they are right. In all honesty, you'll always shoot yourself in the foot and you can't say it wasn't deserved.

Anything for an easy life only this time a new thread which is catching the attention of everyone which wasn't needed which results in staff members hovering over the thread 24/7 (which is dan at the time of typing). :)

Just my 2 cents again. ;)

edit: Excuse my bad english, I'm english.

well said........I had a conversation here a few months ago with a person that wasn't happy with certain type's of conversation here and felt that it should be set up like vbulletin.com, to where you only talk about vbulletin.com and nothing else. The person also said, that since this site is based around vbulletin, hence you can't get code without having a vb license, this site should be run as a code site only.......
So i recon, that is where this management team is going to have to make the decision, is this a community, or is it a coding site only. If it is a community, then certain members of the management team need to grow some thicker skin and let people have a discussion, even if it seems to get heated. Or, get rid of the lounge area, and a few other section's, and inform the member's that this site is code related only, and that ALL discussion's should be about coding and nothing else.
Right now, it is kind of frustrating. Alot of the great coder's are gone, not saying that we still don't have great coder's, but alot of them that donated for free to this site, are gone and they are truly missed by me. To make things worse, i have no idea where they took their talents to.

I wish i knew what the answer was to make this site a better place to be, but i just don't. I have tryed to say openly what i have felt a few of the problem's are/were, but nothing has changed in the way thread's are handled. I personally have had thread's here closed to, or thread's that i was a part of, like this one will probably be......

I totally agree with you on this bashy, if you buy a lemon for a car. Just about anyone on this site would want their car fixed and if it wasn't fixed, they would go out of their way to share this information with family, friends and the internet......Nothing really piss's me off more as a person, then people having to buy something that turns out to be garbage and not being able to share the information, openly about the garbage that was purchased. Which is really to bad that they are getting rid of post's like that here, people should have the right to that information. Shoot, even vbulletin.com send's you here to look for outside hacks.......This site should take the good with the bad, when it come's to people's money and buying hacks here....
Right now, i have a mod installed called talkerbot,which i truly enjoy. The coder that has put the hack together has done a wonderful job. Only thing left to do with this mod is update the learn hack, here and people can teach their bot to talk how ever they would like too. The person that has redone the mod, has the learn code set up, but, it is only available to him (which is fine), but if you want your bot to learn, you have to go to his personal website to teach your bot and wait for the site owner to update his personal database, before you can give your bot new information, which is really a pain in the butt....but at this point, you are basically held hostage (i know that's a strong word because i use the hack for free), it would just be nice to be able to do this on your own database and not have to upload all of the other user's learned thoughts too....... and i truly suck at php coding, i have been trying to fix the above code to work, but i just can't do it and that is part of what i miss about how it used to be here........everyone was helping everyone and there wasn't all of this hate and discontent about talking about wanting code or purchasing code and having threads locked because it was thought to be to personal of an issue to talk about, just like in the example i just shared.
Anyways, have a great day all........

well said m8 if the thread had`nt been locked i would of got bored with it anyway but cause it was cut off in mid conversation i never found out what happened and im a nosey sort of guy :)