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Any of those cables on monoprice would be fine- plus they are probably the best site to inexpensive cables.

Basically the higher th MHz the better, however, you only *need* 100 MHz and all cat5/5e cables are at least OK to 100 MHz... some manufacturers design to better specs just so they can market them with a higher number in their name.

25 foot is nothing for an ethernet cable, I've seen 100 ft+ runs...

Thanks for the info, sir. I did not know that. Like I said before, in the old days we had mucho (the total extent of my spanish) cable degradation, so the new technology must be getting better. I prefer a wired connection over wifi, if possible, as I don't really need wifi just for the PS3.

If you're still having an issue. I suggest you buy a D-Link router. I had it for 3 years and I had my system all over the place. 80-90% signal strength and no lag at all. Ever since a thunder storm strike and it blew up my router. Had to get a new one and I am using a Linksys and never go wireless. I barely get signal around the block. However, I have all kind of Ethernet cords (cheap, expensive) and they are running perfectly fine.

http://frys.com I don't know if they have deliveries in your area.

I will probably go with am extra long ethernet cable and just plug that into one of the ports on the cable modem/router. I had looked at the D-Link DR-655, but wasn't sure about what else I would need to go with it.

Actually the extra long ethernet cable is the way to go. A couple months ago I was fixed on getting wifi but once I did it just didn't cut it. It may have just been my connection but it was completely spotty throughout the apartment (and I don't have a large apartment). After that I got ethernet and it worked alot better. But the convenience of wifi is awesome.

I need to make an update/revision to my previous comment. I recently purchased the Cabelas Dangerous Hunts 2011. After logging about 24 hours on it in the last couple weeks... well... it has made the Wii worth it. Also available for other systems though.

Same here. I did a LOT of research before I bought our machine. In the end the 360 won because the technology used with Kinect blows the others away. Now having said that if you don't like the games offered for the 360 then that's another issue, but the possibility for what games can do expand with Kinect technology, so they'll eventually have something for everyone. I would never buy a PS3 for the blu-ray. If I wanted a blu-ray player I'd buy a blu-ray player.

I have no interest in the Kinect or the Move as this stage. I'm way too old to be doing that much moving around while playing games. ;)

As far as a separate blu-ray player, it makes more economic sense to have a blu-ray player AND a gaming system all in one. Plus, I'm more partial to the PS3 games so far.

Also the PS3 was (is?) the only BluRay player on the market upgradeable to things like 3D and whatever new tech comes out.

I'm probably older than you and one of the reasons why I bought the Kinect was precisely so that I could use it to exercise (while not seeming like I'm doing exercise). The last thing I want to do is sit on my butt and rot away. I've played all the gaming systems at one time or another and Kinect immerses you more into the game. To each his own, but I truly feel that Kinect has the edge right now. To prove my point I'm predicting that Wii and PS3 try to copy what Kinect does down the road...

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It was (past tense). Think about what you said. Do you seriously think that Sony would only make the PS3 upgradable? They make the BluRay player inside the PS3. Panasonics are also upgradable and I'm sure at this point that most major brands will follow suit soon.

Yes, sir, you are almost right. Since Sony was instrumental in gettting blu-ray accepted over the failed HD format, I would think they would know more about blu-ray than most others, don't you think? One of the last few firmware upgrades took care of the 3D availability for the blu-ray.

If you had used your real birthdate, then we would see who is older, huh? ;) Kinect will be a passing fad before you know it. Someone else will bring something out that is even better. Microsoft has yet to impress me with anything they are connected with.

Panasonic has yet to make anything that will last past their one year warranty. I got burned out on anything they make a long time ago. Most brands will make the upgrades to 3D sooner or later. 3d will take a while to catch on, I think. They have a lot of bugs to work out of it first.

That sounds eerily the same as what the CEO of Digital Equipment once said about computers :D

For the most part I'd have to agree with you, but I love the Sync system in my new car and Kinect has worked well too, however those are the only two exceptions.

Well, what's been nice is having a blueray for 4-5 years now and only having to download free firmware that updates it to the latest technology. Just about everyone else had to buy new hardware to keep up.

Kinda how the Xbox fanboys had to buy HD DVD addons :) Sony certainly lost the battle 4-5 years ago to xbox and even then (very laughable now) the Wii ... but they are winning the war.

True, but as talked about in this thread http://www.hidefninja.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6170 teh firmware for ps3 has already been out to include 3d on a ps3 but it cant pass that much bandwidth through an HDMI 1.3 cable (as opposed to 1.4) to give HD audio. So even though your ps3 can do HD 3d, its only doing regular 5.1 audio.

You'd need a 3d player if you want both... I guess the audio doesnt matter much to those without receivers capable of decoding DTS HD Master audio and Dolby TrueHD tracks.

Blu-ray is the best, but its even better with HD audio :)

Congrats on your purchase boofoo, the ps3 is a beast of a machine and its only getting better!

Depends on the age group. As of Jan/2011 there are 9 million more XBox 360's than PS3's, and more than double Wii's than PS3's. Not sure how PS3 could be winning any war since they are in last place :D

Kinect has also surprised even MS. 8 million units of the Kinect sensor have been shipped as of January 6, 2011. They only projected selling 5 million. Plus 3rd party vendors are now looking into ways to use Kinect for applications other than gaming. For example; MIT has a program that allows you to use Kinect to control your browser. Not to long ago people were amazed by what they saw in the movie Minority Report, and now that same tech is being developed and coming to the real world via Kinect. Once these apps come out XBox Kinect will be in first place even if Sony was to give away a lifetime free supply of Blu-Ray movies :D

Good point!

5.1 is so yesterday :p

I'd be curious to see where you are getting those stats.

They were announced at CES 2011 :)

You can also read about it here ;)

Heck, even NASA is in love with Kinect :p

I wasn't at CES 2011, so I have no idea what stats were discussed there. I don't put a whole lot of stock in stats anyway, as they are usually doctored one way or the other.

Kinect is like the iPad. It is the top of the line right now but as with the iPad, others are catching up and passing it. Microsoft got lucky for once, but you know how their luck usually goes. ;)

Did they ever fix the problem with darker skins not working right with it?

Also, I found this interesting in the link you posted:

These has all been certified and no one from either side has ever disputed them.

What I find odd is that the Wii is blowing away the PS3 in sales, and yet the Wii has the worst resolution of any gaming console, has the least amount of memory, the least options, the worst GPU, the smallest CPU, the least amount of I/O, and isn't even HDTV compatible. In-fact when you do a side by side comparison the Wii really sucks as modern gaming consoles go. Yet it's blowing the doors off of the PS3 in sales. Conclusion; Hyping a product with advertising works :D

I know of nothing that has passed the iPad per se, but there are more generic tablets being sold cheaper, and there is no tech even close to the Kinect - so no other products to even compare it with. I think that not only is Kinect going to be a real game changer (pun intended) but it will change gaming consoles forever as Kinect is used for more things than just gaming. I wouldn't say that MS got lucky with Kinect, as they spent millions developing it. Now that they know they have a real cash cow on their hands they will be developing the next generation and this tech will be used for things we can only imagine today.

...but wait, I though you didn't like stats ;) :D

I saw those too :) iFixit has a bigger heatsink which seems to keep the heat issues at bay on the 360, but they try to force people to buy tools along with it so they can keep it. MS has no excuse for that many defective units. It should be closer to what the Wii offers.

Nintendo has been around a lot longer than the Xbox or Playstation. They had the momentum going in plus they have a lot more games geared towards kids.

IIRC, Microsoft had a boatload of problems with the mainboard when the Xbox first came out. And they seem to still be having problems with failure rates. Even the Kinect isn't going to save them from that.

Yeah... I know... but.... the Wii is really a piece of outdated junk, and yet it's selling like hotcakes. That's wrong on so many levels :D

They've been working on it. They now use a lot of epoxy to keep the motherboard from flexing and are using better heatsinks, etc, but they still need to be more aggressive with it. It should be at least twice as reliable as it is. I had no idea they had such a big defect rate. I mean it's almost 25%. Maybe they're building them with parts from unsold Zunes :p

If I could make a bet with you I would that Kinect is going to change a lot of things in the world as we now know it. The tech is still in its infancy but with places like MIT and NASA now behind it you'll see some amazing results in the next couple of years. It's a shame that a company like MS will profit from it but that's how it goes in the tech world. One guy is now using it to make an airplane avoidance system so that planes can't crash into each other. It's just a matter of time before the medical profession adapts it. God I love technology :D

Wii is and always has been the cheapest of the 3 systems so I am not surprised it outsells PS3, the most expensive of the new systems.

If your kids say they want a video game system and don't specify which one it only makes sense to buy a Wii.

Ok, that is old news ... and would be totally correct if you were saying this a few months ago. The Wii has actually stopped selling units at that massive rate. Obviously they are still selling, but not to the rate to say its blowing away the ps3. The PS3 has already sold more units than the 360 in its time from launch vs. the 360's. It was also catching up to the 360 before kinect released ... and plenty of folks are buying the psMOVE as well. (though I do find the Kinect more impressive) Your anti-ps3. The ps3 is a great machine all around, its way better than a 360 who's franchise games keeps making them over to the ps3. (All you got left is Halo and Gears) and the PSN is free. ;)

I agree. Glad to see someone else see what I see in the PS3. ;)

I am partial to the PS3 for many reasons, mainly because it has the blu-ray player. That was my main focus on getting it as the games are way beyond me these days. I have 2 games but a boat-load of blu-rays for it so far. It hasn't let me down yet. I'm from the old school where that matters more than anything else.

First off that is 5.1 while doing blu-ray 3d ... 360 cant do blu-ray 3d, so who cares if its 5.1 that i just bonus .... Other than that, it decodes DTS HD Master and Dolby True HD just fine, hell even the launch models can play SACDs. There are tons of little perks that the ps3 has that the 360 doesnt ... it plays dvds lol, must be fun flipping your discs in the middle of games. What was Final Fantasy? 4 discs haha.

As for your 9 million # as of JAN 11 !!!!!!!!!!????????

Here is a quote from NOV. 10 ... so you're way off!

What are you talking about? The xbox slim has a super low failure rate now. I'd say the failure rate went from 60% to 5%...

That's a HUGE difference.

They had a poor engineered product so they could BEAT Sony in releasing a console. They rectified that issue now.

So I wouldn't bring up failure rates anymore. All 3 major consoles are around the same failure rate at this point.

First of all. according to the reports I have seen, the failure rates are not even close, as that was shown in the quote I posted. Second, how did this thread get to the point of a damned game console contest??? I started it out as something completely different.

lol yeah, console wars. I really dont have anything against any system, though I do feel the ps3 is better for many reasons though thats my opinion. I have owned a 360 as well, as most all my ps3 PSN friends online have ... and they've practically all came from xbox RROD's to way of the ps3 ;) ... though ps3 does have the YLOD but it seems to happen a lot less than an RROD. I cant speak on the 360 slims, I know nothing about it .

I mainly chimed in to help as it felt a little attacking that the xbots jumped in to dismerit your purchase.

Enjoy your purchase boofo!

I think the YLOD is mostly a thing of the past since the newer slim systems have come out. I have the CECH-2501A model, which was the current 160 GB model when I got it in Nov 2010. It still has the 3.41 firmware on it as I haven't upgraded it yet. I figure if it ain't broke, don't try fixing it.

I avoided the Xbox after they recalled almost 100,000 of the first batch for the mainboard problem when they were first released. Microsoft tried to play it all down but to no avail in the end. I have always been partial to Sony, I guess, and trusted the name for the most part.

I am having a blast with it so far. I just ordered Season 1 of Spartacus (on blu-ray), the series from Showtime. It should be here today. I have also been collecting blu-rays from eBay and Amazon when I can get them at a great price. I usally check them out for the picture and sound quality from a site called blu-ray.com, which incidentally runs vBulletin 3.8.4. They are usually dead-on the money in their reviews.

Had a Atari 2600 and NES when they were new in the market w/ 100's of games.
I don't have much use for console toys since 80386 computer came out.

You don't know what you're missing then. Especially the blu-ray part of it.

Well other than larger space for data (more grafix, longer game play with bigger maps)
I don't see better games being written. It's still the same FPS, RPG, Racing, Adventure, Puzzle , Strategy games recycled over and over again.

TV / Movies on blu-ray is the same as "over the air" UHF/VHF. The picture and sound is better, but the content still is recycled and 1/10 th quality of story line as it was 20-80 years ago.

The writing will have to get better before there is a need for it. By then it will be replaced with flash memory / SSD or some other type of non-moving part. It's as dead as 8-track, LP, VHS, BETA, CD, DVD, 1.44 floppy, [ add junk here ]

Well, if you look at it in those cynical-type terms, then you are missing out on a lot of things. Technology will always keep getting better. It is the ride that makes it enjoyable.

I think you made a very wise decision, based on your needs Boofo. Purchasing a PS3 is often one "over-thinkers" do. Its not a trend decision. Its a great system and a respectable purchase.

Thank you, Lisa. That was very well put. ;)

Do you have a gaming system or blu-ray?

i love my ps3, i bought a 3d flat screen in summer, and my girlfriend finally bought 2 sets of glasses on christmas, and now we're just waiting for resident evil and avatar to come out as dvd.

I thought the latest Resident Evil movie already came out on 3D blu-ray. Didn't Avatar release a 3D version, too?

We have all three. XBOX 360, PS2 and the Wii. They all get used becuase I have 4 kids LOL. The XBOX is all my 14 yr old plays though. Even the baby (14 month old) trys to "play". He knows that pushing buttons on the remote changes stuff on the screen. Hes already a tech junky. hehe

When I go to buy a blue ray player (one day LOL) I would certainly invest in a PS3! I think my teenager would love that. The biggest drawback about the PS2 is having to use memory cards. My kids hate that and the baby helps them misplace them. haha

I was thinking about getting a PS2 also as there are some games that never made it over to the PS3, like SSX Tricky. They've stopped allowing the PS3 to play PS2 games in the latest rounds of the firmware upgrades. Hopefully, they will bring that option back again. The Wii looks like it might be fun for some of the games that have been coming out for it.

Kids seem to pick it up pretty fast from the younger ages. It's fun to watch them, isn't it? ;)