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assassingod 08-23-2004 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdaddybryce
so then the call home hack is perfectly fine, correct?

Yes:)

Dave-G 08-23-2004 11:01 AM

Firstly glad you got your issue sorted.

But I have one question for all....

Does no one find it strange, that Jelsoft do not support hacks, yet they support vb.org that is for hacks?

On top of this they seem to have control of what hacks are allowed and what is not, remembering they do not support hacks!!!

Very confusing :rolleyes:

PS - Only a loose comment as it confuses me as to who is controling what and who is Offically Jelsoft controlled! or am I just paranoid about Big Brother watching lol ;) (Guess I am) :o

Brad 08-23-2004 11:34 AM

Jelsoft hosts vBulletin.org for free, and also has a staff member (wayne) oversee the actions of the resource site staff. Jelsoft provides this hacking resource for their customers so they do not have to go elsewhere for hacks.

Hence they control what content can be added to this site, if they feel a hack conflicts with the license agreement it will be removed.

At the same time they can not support hacked boards. Because hacked boards run hacked code, support can't give you support for code they don't even know exists in your copy of the software, you have to run a stock version for support to help you.

Dave-G 08-23-2004 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad.loo
Jelsoft hosts vBulletin.org for free, and also has a staff member (wayne) oversee the actions of the resource site staff. Jelsoft provides this hacking resource for their customers so they do not have to go elsewhere for hacks.

Thanks Brad, that makes it a little clearer.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad.loo
Hence they control what content can be added to this site, if they feel a hack conflicts with the license agreement it will be removed.

I see the logic in this (almost) :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad.loo
At the same time they can not support hacked boards. Because hacked boards run hacked code, support can't give you support for code they don't even know exists in your copy of the software, you have to run a stock version for support to help you.

Yep I agree with this, and fully understand.


I'm now a little but more clued up, thanks.

Colin F 08-23-2004 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-G
I see the logic in this (almost) :)

Why should Jelsoft allow hacks that can not be used with vBulletin, because they conflict with the license agreement?

I think it would be much more confusing if they allowed such hacks. People would go: "But it's on vB.org, an official jelsoft site, so why aren't we allowed to install it?"

Is that a bit clearer?

Dave-G 08-23-2004 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin F
I think it would be much more confusing if they allowed such hacks. People would go: "But it's on vB.org, an official jelsoft site, so why aren't we allowed to install it?"

:ermm: That was my point, if it was an official Jelsoft site then how could you have an official hack on an official site that your not allowed officially to install.....!

Ocean 08-25-2004 11:10 PM

Well, guys, I'm sorry to say this - but there has been a new development on this hack.

Originally, the Moderator here, AssassinGod - checked with Wayne Luke, the vB site coordinator, to make sure that my hack didn't violate the EULA.

It was determined, at that time, that my hack did NOT violate the EULA, and was therefore permissible.


However, since then, other people at Jelsoft have decided that it's not in their best interests to allow me to publish this information.



The official statement is this:


Upon further review...

We feel that publishing the code to remove the so-called 'call home' function is not in the best interests of vBulletin or our legitimate customers. Consequently we feel that publishing this on Jelsoft's websites is not in anyone's best interests.

We are also working on the limitations that this has imposed by using the call-home and making it more resource friendly.



What I have been told is that removing the code in question still does NOT violate the EULA, and is fully permissible. However, they don't want the information of how to do so, to be published on Jelsoft's websites.


And thus, my hack has been removed. I'm sorry guys, but unless and until they change their policy on this - I'm afraid that it's out of my hands.

Thanks for all of your support on this issue/hack - I truly appreciate it. :)

Hh75 08-30-2004 12:34 PM

I have a Copy!!! ;) This is a very fine Hack... RemovevBCallHome.txt :D

http://www.vbulletin-germany.com/for...ad.php?t=12939

Ocean 08-30-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hh75

I have a Copy!!! ;) This is a very fine Hack... RemovevBCallHome.txt :D

http://www.vbulletin-germany.com/for...ad.php?t=12939

:)

That's great - but as the german site is still an official Jelsoft board - I'm sure that they'll get around to removing it there as well.


(psst! - Since you're one of the privileged few who managed to d/l it while it was still up - make sure you at least have version 1.3.1! :) )

j_86 08-30-2004 12:52 PM

This file has already been sprawled accross the web, i'm glad to say :)

I suppose it's just one good thing about places like VBHACKS.us ;)

Boo dictatorships!

:D


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