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richTV 04-18-2009 03:26 AM

piratebay will appeal.

regarding p2p, anyone remember Napster and their outcome?

Newsgroups and those site indexers are targets too.

even forums where only links to files are shown are attacked by people shouting DMCA.

Brandon Sheley 04-18-2009 04:06 AM

This is the first I've heard about it, but it doesn't surprise me
and I agree, using torrents, P2P isn't illegal
it's distributing copyrighted material that's illegal.

fattony69 04-18-2009 04:53 AM

I have a member on my site from Sweden and he has told me that after the results of the trail, the Pirate Party Membership had a large surge of members and now is bigger than the Swedish People's Party.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2009/04/61.jpg
He goes on and on about it here: http://thebestforumever.com/politica...ay-verdict.htm You can check it out if you want to read.

lasto 04-18-2009 05:50 AM

Lawyers believe that the sentencing of Peter Sunde, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Fredrik Neij and Carl Lundström to a year in jail for breaching Swedish copyright law could lead to a flurry of similar lawsuits as Hollywood and the music industry battles to regain the upper hand in the war against file sharing.

nexialys 04-18-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richTV (Post 1793712)
regarding p2p, anyone remember Napster and their outcome?

Napster was a joke, remember it was a software that caused a crisis... PirateBay is just a repository of links... and a ton of servers to redirect people to the right place. TPB is the same as Demonoid, isoHunt and some others.. big, structured and ready to go to trial. Napster was a single guy in need of cash, like most of the coders who develop that kind of software. TorrentBit was developped as a data-exchange protocol, and the original version now do the same as Napster, they show banners and ads...

if they decide, the whole community of torrent users who would give only 10$ to save the network would win against all the companies, because they would have a larger budget... the companies are doing it only for the money, the torrent users are doing it for the liberty...

Rapscallion 04-20-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1793531)
so why spending hundreds of millions sueing these guys if nothing can be done against them? a show to all who think the laws can not be applied, that's all...

Not quite. I think it's mostly a show to the shareholders of the music industries that they're trying to do something about acts that endanger their income. If they did nothing at all, they'd have to answer to the shareholders and face being replaced at the next meeting.

If the pigopolists weren't wallowing in cash all the time, I'd have some sort of sympathy for them. I don't pirate stuff, but I don't have sympathy for the claims that piracy is destroying the industry when I have DVDs that have adverts at the front that I can't skip past.

Rapscallion

nexialys 04-20-2009 07:04 PM

same here... and isn't it the shareholders of all markets that broke the financial environment all around the world?... work on some other way to deal with profit...

whitetigergrowl 05-06-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1793835)
if they decide, the whole community of torrent users who would give only 10$ to save the network would win against all the companies, because they would have a larger budget... the companies are doing it only for the money, the torrent users are doing it for the liberty...

How on earth do you figure that? Those companies have an almost endless supply of cash even in this economy. Even if you took $10 from every filesharer for legal proceedings, guaranteed it still would not touch the sheer amount of money the companies have. The original Transformers movie alone has amassed around 1 billion dollars worldwide. You cannot honestly tell me file sharers could ever come up with that kind of money.

The fact is, companies will keep suing and finding ways to minimize piracy as long as it affects their bottom line. If they stop even a few people, that's a lot of re-gained revenue. They know it. The battle will be neverending.

nexialys 05-06-2009 04:27 PM

The battle is already lost for the companies... TPB is still online, same for Demonoid and isoHunt, even after millions in pursuits... the companies only power is money... they can not brainwash the hundreds of filesharers... the guys at TPB spent some cash, the salary of one lawyer... the big companies had to spend millions to be represented by liars (did i mention lawyers?) ... and the site is still up, and they have nothing in hands to make it close... their only goal was to put the guys in jail, they failed miserably...

Lynne 05-06-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitetigergrowl (Post 1805851)
..... The original Transformers movie alone has amassed around 1 billion dollars worldwide. .....

... which doesn't help the case that the leaked movie has hurt profits.

TPB may have over 3.5 million registered users (and over 21 million peers currently), but there are still a whole LOT of internet users who are clueless regarding torrents or how to download free stuff. And a lot of those users will still go out to see movies, buy CDs/DVDs, and pay for software even though they can get it for free.

(And studies like this don't help their case either - Study: Pirates 10x more likely to pay for music)


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