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EasyTarget 11-09-2005 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul M
Sorry, but I don't see the logic here. Being a "team" member at vb.org does not make you any better at coding hacks, or more likely to be around in the future. A number of vb.org staff have just vanished or retired, and I wasn't aware new ones were chosen purely for their coding skills. Equally, not being a team member does not make someone inferior, or more likely to vanish.

I'm referring to .com
Quote:

Originally Posted by AN-net
to continue what Paul M was saying, jelsoft could pack up and disappear one day as well. the internet is known to do that so just because there is a team does not mean they can provide a better product or support then any other 3rd party.

yeah, and so could microsoft. but the chances that jelsoft would disappear vs a guy that releases a hack at .org is slim to none.

Moparx 11-09-2005 07:12 PM

Great post Chris M.. i agree completely.

I have no problem paying for hacks. In fact, I have purchased them before.
However, what I dislike is seeing a link to a paid version suddenly appear at the top of an free (and generally unfinished) beta soon after people help iron out the bugs in the product.

The coders definitely have the right to sell anything they want for as much money as they want.. but its how some of them go about it that irks me


On the flip side, I can understand why many want to move onto paid hacks. I am constantly astonished at the audacity some people have on the forum in regards to the free hacks that are made available to them.

They +++++ when a hack isnt exactly like how they want it, demand and expect support for every hack, give your hack a low rating if they don't agree with something, etc.

MarcoH64's Private Message Workbench comes to mind... his hack has a warning built in that let forum users know that their PMs could be read when his hack was installed. There is nothing wrong with that.. and truthfully it should be disclosed if you are going to actively read your members PMs.

However, some members felt they had to go out of their way to complain and give his hack 2 stars or under because they disagreed with that policy.
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Originally Posted by plubius
I have not seen one forum yet where you have to pay to be a member.

SomethingAwful comes to mind :)

immortal21 11-09-2005 07:41 PM

Well I'm new to the community here, but long time coder.
I won't post my corporation site do to the fact that I posted a commercial product earlier today and it was deleted. (no harm no foul)
I just wanted to say while that post was up i recieved over 70 hits from this site alone within the one hour that post was up.
Already I have many interested in the product.
Now i don't know if there is any affiliation between vbulletin .com and .org but if this is a place for add on's for vbulletin, it is by far the best place I have seen.
As a corporate owner and seeing how fast and how many hits I got from just an hour from one post show's me alot about this website.
Commercial or not, this site for addons, hacks etc.. would NATURALLY be the ultimate vb resource, I'm not saying it's not already because it obviously is since it's the first thing that would pop up on any search engine.
If you were to combine the awesome power of commercial and free, this site in general would be the hottest spot on the web for vb resources and it will remain that way now and forever.
These are just my opinions and not to be taken cold heartedly.
I enjoyed reading this thread and this thread could be the opening to a brighter future for vbulletin.org.

Thanks

MPDev 11-09-2005 07:43 PM

The transition from "hobbyist" to "professional" is something vBulletin.Org has yet to embrace.

I suspect there is a good market for Professionals who can provide premium mods and services, maybe someone can build and promote a vbprofessionals.com website to facilitate the conversion.

Interestingly enough, a project like that would probably actually be a revenue producer since income means a willingness to pay for promotion.

eXtremeTim 11-09-2005 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad
This has not been the case, if you are talking about the situation with The Geek's hack this was not the same thing. The vBSEO hack was allowed because they told us they planned to release a lite version from the get-go.

I am going to have to state from personal experience that this is not the case. I made a thread about my client management system that im working on and said I will be releaing a lite version of it that will basicly function as an address book. Yet the thread got removed within an hour.

Boofo 11-09-2005 08:10 PM

@ The Geek - Boofo might be old but he is wiley. ;)

Brad 11-09-2005 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim
I am going to have to state from personal experience that this is not the case. I made a thread about my client management system that im working on and said I will be releaing a lite version of it that will basicly function as an address book. Yet the thread got removed within an hour.

There are currently no threads in the deleted items forum started by you.

Chris M 11-09-2005 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad
There are currently no threads in the deleted items forum started by you.

I can confirm this :)

Chris

eXtremeTim 11-09-2005 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad
There are currently no threads in the deleted items forum started by you.

This would have been quite some time ago. When I was first getting the idea together and asking for feedback on the idea and for more ideas and stuff people would like to see in it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev
The transition from "hobbyist" to "professional" is something vBulletin.Org has yet to embrace.

I suspect there is a good market for Professionals who can provide premium mods and services, maybe someone can build and promote a vbprofessionals.com website to facilitate the conversion.

Interestingly enough, a project like that would probably actually be a revenue producer since income means a willingness to pay for promotion.

I am already in the works of doing my own thing on my site which will be a general php training and reference site including detailed training for many scripts available and my products and so much more.

Brad 11-09-2005 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim
This would have been quite some time ago. When I was first getting the idea together and asking for feedback on the idea and for more ideas and stuff people would like to see in it.

We have threads in there dating back to early 2001, so if something had been posted it would still be there. We keep records of everything we delete incase a situation like this comes up.

Perhaps you posted it on vBulletin.com?


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