OK, I'm starting to think Boofo was right and I needed a [sarcasm] tag. :p

I have some commercial ones for sale if you'd like some. ;)

Here we go now were making fun of the people who are going commercial. :-/

I don't consider it making fun of... more along the lines of levity to try & lighten the dark tone that a thread like this often drifts to. :)

Well if we didnt all have to take such extreme stances to one side or the other which we always end up there becuase of comments from people who are against it.

I mean Id rather be able to carry on a civil conversation about this but I doubt we will ever be able to.

[No offence intended]
Maybe some of the posts in this thread are meant to diffuse a somewhat tense and touchy subject but I for one, do not appreciate it, given that this should be a serious discussion thread ( else it would still be in the lounge area instead of Site Feedback, no ? ).
Let's stick to the topics being discussed at hand, and do it maturely, considering all points of view and responding accordingly, in tactful and well thought out mature speak without the need for playing things down with *tryingtobefunnynotfunny bits and pieces inserted here and there.
[/No offence intended]

2cents

It doesn't really matter what any of us "appreciate" or not. What's happening is that this is just turning into a re-hash of the last thread from when this topic came up with nothing new coming out of it. Some people don't see a problem with it, some people do see a problem with it and the staff guys/gals are taking it all under advisement.

You can have your 2cents back.

Lighten up, Tim, you're taking this all too serious. ;)

the community has recently gotten very violent. i feel the community is becoming overcrowded with +++++++s. anyone see that new store i think its "Ultimate Shop", that poor guy is being flogged by +++++++s who do not appreciate his time in trying to create a store but instead yell at him calling his hack pitiful. they continue to insult UShop. i really see why some have gone commercial, this community is slowly becoming full of +++++++s who say give me give me but if it doesnt satisfy them 100% they have a right to piss all over it. they seem to think "oh i paid for vbulletin, so if a free hack doesn't satisfy me i will scream and yell as though i paid for it." actually even this has carried over to the .com, people screaming and yelling at devs. critizing them with snide remarks and +++++++ comments. what i really feel like saying to these +++++++s is "++++ off you little greedy +++++, go to phpbb if you want something for free."

I'd ask for a couple of cents but I would probably get scolded again. :(