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rareclownfish

04-08-2006, 09:12 PM

All i did was put it in the header that way it shows everywhere including the portal index and gallery index.

What way are you talking about?

Ted S

04-08-2006, 09:24 PM

Hey Ted, in this pic the Welcome headers - Improve community registration rates is showing on the portal page. How can I get it on mine?
Is that VBA or ABPortal?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=36636&d=1130560849

That's not a portal page, it's the forumhome template. ScubaBoard has a portal but it does not show the welcome headers (intentionally).

djjeffa

04-08-2006, 10:13 PM

Ted S

04-09-2006, 12:17 AM

great hack
is ther a way to edit welcome_neverposted phrase to make it clicable to start a new thread in the intoduce yourself fourm with the users name as the subject? or just atleast derect them that way?

Just change the link in the phrase to http://www.scubaboard.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=X where X is your intro forum. Unfortunately I don't think you can prepopulate a thread subject line.

djjeffa

04-09-2006, 12:36 AM

Just change the link in the phrase to http://www.scubaboard.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=X where X is your intro forum. Unfortunately I don't think you can prepopulate a thread subject line.im not good with this how would i edit the prase and what would be the exact code?
thanks for your help

Ted S

04-09-2006, 12:44 AM

im not good with this how would i edit the prase and what would be the exact code?
thanks for your help

Edit the phrase welcome_neverposted by finding it (searching) in the phrase manager.

Add:

<a href="http://www.scubaboard.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=X">post a new thread</a>

Where ever you want.

dilbert

04-09-2006, 01:12 AM

Hi,
I really like this hack, thanks!

I am having one small problem.
I have a custom style, Aria, and am using vBadvanced CMPS. On the CMPS index page http://www.bloodbanktalk.com/forum/cmps_index.php the drop down menus no longer work.

Any tips?

OK, so the problem is a little more complicated now. I tried it on three different PC's with IE and had the same problem.
I'm home now and it works with FF, but still not with IE.

Any ideas where to start lookingh for the problem?

mawby

04-09-2006, 03:01 PM

Wow, thanks for that mawby! If you don't mind I'd like to include that in a future version as an optional sub-release (or you can post it yourself)?Go for it. Makes sense to keep it all together. Just bung a "Courtesy of mawby" somewhere and I'll be happy. :)

jdebler

04-10-2006, 12:29 PM

Wow, thanks for that mawby! If you don't mind I'd like to include that in a future version as an optional sub-release ?

Please do!!!

Go for it. Makes sense to keep it all together. Just bung a "Courtesy of mawby" somewhere and I'll be happy. :)

Thanks for the work, Mawby! Very cool! Hope to see it in a future revision of the plugin.

3rabkingdom

04-10-2006, 05:01 PM

nice ..

thank you ..

rolliet

04-11-2006, 02:41 AM

Clicked install. Thanks for the great hack.

bobc973

04-11-2006, 07:49 PM

FIXED this can be ignored ******************

Instructions seemed very straightforward , everything went fine from removing existing forumhome, adding $welcomeheaders to the Style Template, adding the product and even updating phrases.

But no welcome messages for 0 count posters or posters with no activity in months.

Any idea of where to look in this case? The VB is 3.5.4.

If not, maybe try to remove and reinstall? It just seems like everyone is saying how easy and simple (which it was) and yet..... nada. ??

FIXED this can be ignored ******************

Quarterbore

04-12-2006, 04:25 PM

I am curious if anybody knows a way to turn this off for some usergroups?

I want to get rid of this header for search bots by combing the Mod here:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=108070

With a custom "bots" group that will be like guests - only without the header information...

Thanks for any help... This mod as it is has really helped my site grow!

Ted S

04-13-2006, 02:08 AM

Simple enough...

Modify the template welcome_headers as follows:

Add this to the start of the code:

<if condition="is_member_of($bbuserinfo, X)"><else />

And at the end add:

</if>

Where X is the new usergroup.

jamaario

04-13-2006, 02:46 AM

has not boosted my registration any. lol

Ted S

04-13-2006, 03:03 AM

has not boosted my registration any. lol

How many visitors do you get per day? What was your registration rate (per day) before and after installing the hack?

Quarterbore

04-13-2006, 04:55 PM

Simple enough...

Modify the plugin welcome_headers as follows:

Add this to the start of the code:

<if condition="is_member_of($bbuserinfo, X)"><else />

And at the end add:

</if>

Where X is the new usergroup.

Ok so my code looks like this:

<if condition="is_member_of($bbuserinfo, 33)"><else />

$globaltemplates[] = 'welcome_headers';

</if>

But this gives me an error:

Parse error: parse error, unexpected '<' in /home/mydomain/public_html/global.php(344) : eval()'d code on line 1

Ted S

04-13-2006, 05:08 PM

My appologies, you need to apply that code to the welcome_headers template, not to the plugin code.

snoopgst

04-14-2006, 08:51 PM

I uninstalled this hack and it removed everything except the header. It still says "Welcome to the FORUMS" right on top of the forums.

http://aljitech.com/forums/index.php

jamaario

04-15-2006, 06:18 AM

Chris!

04-15-2006, 10:46 AM

Thanks for this mod.

I installed it yesterday on a board running vB 3.5.4

Installation was a breeze. The only part that was a bit confusing for me was with regard to the removal of the existing guest message. Mostly just in terms of where to finish removing to. But I'm a novice type.

I spent a few hours putzing around with the different messages and after that I was good to go.

For me one of the attractions of this mod beyond encouraging people to sign up and post more often, was that it should help people who haven't confirmed their email addresses confirm them. We recently moved from a Groupee board to vB, so many of them are having problems requesting a new password to get on to the new board. And also many of them have never updated their email addresses in years so you can imagine what's happening with them.

So I think this might help some of our members help themselves. :banana:

I'll pop back in and update you on whether it increases our new sign ups and new post counts. :)

-Chris

zurv

04-15-2006, 12:26 PM

honestly i think my registration has dropped since implementing this, my board is relatively new so I knew the initial rate of registration would be low but i did start to get a nice trickle, but from the day i installed this, the trickle slowed up... but my number of visitor has increased 3fold.. i dont know maybe this just doesnt appeal to my sites demographic, i completely understand the utility of this hack, and it should be working for me...

Your registrations have probably dropped because you have tapped out your current way of advertising. E.g. maybe everyone you told, then told a friend to register. Now all their friends have registered so you are not getting that many new registrations. You need to advertise, this hack isnt hurtning you. It actually helps. I do not see how giding someone through a registartion process and greeting them would make them turn away. Thats just crazy, things dont work like that.

jamaario

04-15-2006, 04:26 PM

zurv

04-16-2006, 01:34 AM

zurv .... Next time try putting a question mark behind your blind assertions. My sites traffic is not dependent on me informing friends, it is sufficiently advertised both online and in print, traffic is not my problem. REGISTRATION is my problem. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him register.. and that is evident as i watch 100 guest fly through my forum without registering, in one hour.

All of my assertions are blind, sivce I dont know you or your site, I thought that was obvious. Anyways it dosent matter, the fact is you said that you thought this took away from your registrations which is impossible. It helps users understand what they are doing. It walks them through it. "Would you like a guided tour?". Cmon man, how does this take away? It should be obvious, i shouldnt have to explain why this hack helps.

And honestly who cares about registrations, you should care about how many people actually interact and take part in your forums.

Chris!

04-16-2006, 04:47 AM

jam,

It sounds like you have the traffic coming in, you just have to get them to sign up?

I guess what I would ask is what incentive do they have to join? On our forum, we have some picture forums guests can't enter although they can physically see. And we also have our board set up so that guests can't view attachments, seach the member list etc.

Once you put together a list of perks for joining, use them as incentive for joining. And use the guest message in this hack to sell your guests on the merits of becoming a member. :)

RaceJunkie

04-16-2006, 06:29 PM

How would I change the color of the background like the screenshots?

Boredello

04-17-2006, 02:34 AM

It is showing up twice for me also, however i have looked for the $guest code in my forumhome and I don't have it there using steelred style... so the forumhome has been edited however I cannot figure out what it is causing it to show twice?.... I'll keep looking in the meantime.

$stylevar[htmldoctype]
<html dir="$stylevar[textdirection]" lang="$stylevar[languagecode]">
<head>

<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache" />
<meta http-equiv="Expires" content="-1" />
<meta http-equiv="Cache-Control" content="no-cache" />

$headinclude
<title><phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[x_powered_by_vbulletin]</phrase></title>
</head>
<body>
$header
$navbar


<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">

$forumbits
<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="tfoot" align="center" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">6<else />5</if>"><div class="smallfont"><strong>
<a href="forumdisplay.php?$session[sessionurl]do=markread" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[mark_forums_read]</a>
<if condition="$vboptions['forumleaders']">   
<a href="showgroups.php$session[sessionurl_q]" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[view_forum_leaders]</a></if> <if condition="!$show['guest']">

   
<a href="login.php?$session[sessionurl]do=logout&logouthash=$bbuserinfo[logouthash]" onclick="return log_out()"><phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]">$vbphrase[log_out_x]</phrase></a>

</if>
</strong></div></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>


<br />
<table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" style="border:1px solid $stylevar[tborder_bgcolor];">
<tr valign="bottom">
<td class="panelsurround">
<div class="panel">
<table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="0">
<tr>
<td class="alt2"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_statusicon]/forum_new.gif" alt="contains new posts" border="0" /></td>
<td class="alt1"><span class="smallfont">Forum Contains<br /><strong>New Posts</strong></span></td>
<td> </td>
<td class="alt2"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_statusicon]/forum_old.gif" alt="contains no_new posts" border="0" /></td>
<td class="alt1"><span class="smallfont">Forum Contains<br /><strong>No New Posts</strong></span></td>
<td> </td>
<td class="alt2"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_statusicon]/forum_link.gif" alt="Linked Forum" border="0" /></td>
<td class="alt1"><span class="smallfont">Forum is<br /><strong>a Linked Forum</strong></span></td>
<td> </td>
<td class="alt2"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_statusicon]/forum_old_lock.gif" alt="Closed Forum" border="0" /></td>
<td class="alt1"><span class="smallfont">Forum is<br /><strong>Closed</strong></span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="5"> </td></tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3"> </td>
<td class="alt2"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/newpost.gif" alt="Start New Thread" border="0" /></td>
<td class="alt1"><span class="smallfont">Start New Thread</span></td>
<td> </td>
<td class="alt2"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/newnewposts.gif" alt="Find New Posts" border="0" /></td>
<td class="alt1"><span class="smallfont">Get New Posts</span></td>
<td colspan="3"> </td>

</tr>
</table></div>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<br />


<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<thead>
<tr>
<td class="tcat" colspan="2">$vbphrase[whats_going_on]</td>
</tr>
</thead>
<if condition="$show['loggedinusers']">

<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="thead" colspan="2">
<a style="float:$stylevar[right]" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumhome_activeusers')"><img id="collapseimg_forumhome_activeusers" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/collapse_thead$vbcollapse[collapseimg_forumhome_activeusers].gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
<a href="online.php$session[sessionurl_q]" rel="nofollow">$vbphrase[currently_active_users]</a>: $totalonline (<phrase 1="$numberregistered" 2="$numberguest">$vbphrase[x_members_and_y_guests]</phrase>)
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
<tbody id="collapseobj_forumhome_activeusers" style="$vbcollapse[collapseobj_forumhome_activeusers]">
<tr>
<td class="alt2"><a href="online.php$session[sessionurl_q]" rel="nofollow"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/whos_online.gif" alt="$vbphrase[view_whos_online]" border="0" /></a></td>
<td class="alt1" width="100%">
<div class="smallfont">
<div style="white-space: nowrap"><phrase 1="$recordusers" 2="$recorddate" 3="$recordtime">$vbphrase[most_users_ever_online_was_x_y_at_z]</phrase></div>
<div>$activeusers</div>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>

</if>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="thead" colspan="2">
<a style="float:$stylevar[right]" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumhome_stats')"><img id="collapseimg_forumhome_stats" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/collapse_thead$vbcollapse[collapseimg_forumhome_stats].gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
<phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[x_statistics]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
<tbody id="collapseobj_forumhome_stats" style="$vbcollapse[collapseobj_forumhome_stats]">
<tr>
<td class="alt2"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/stats.gif" alt="<phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[x_statistics]</phrase>" border="0" /></td>
<td class="alt1" width="100%">
<div class="smallfont">
<div>
$vbphrase[threads]: $totalthreads,
$vbphrase[posts]: $totalposts,

$vbphrase[members]: $numbermembers<if condition="$show['activemembers']">,
<span title="<phrase 1="$vboptions[activememberdays]">$vbphrase[within_the_last_x_days]</phrase>">$vbphrase[active_members]: $activemembers</span>
</if>
</div>
<div><phrase 1="member.php?$session[sessionurl]u=$newuserid" 2="$newusername">$vbphrase[welcome_to_our_newest_member_x]</phrase></div>
<div>
<script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript1.2">

//modified by FECKIE December 10th 2005

/* <![CDATA[ */
function setcountup(theyear,themonth,theday){
yr=theyear;mo=themonth;da=theday
}
//////////CONFIGURE THE countup SCRIPT HERE//////////////////
//STEP 1: Configure the date to count up from, in the format year, month, day:
//This date should be less than today
setcountup(2006,04,13)
//STEP 2: Configure text to be attached to count up
var displaymessage="since $vboptions[bbtitle] came online!"
//STEP 3: Configure the below 5 variables to set the width, height, background color, and text style of the countup area
var countupwidth='95%'
var countupheight='20px' //applicable only in NS4
var countupbgcolor='alt1'
var opentags='<span class="smallfont">'
var closetags='</span>'

//////////DO NOT EDIT PASS THIS LINE//////////////////

var montharray=new Array("Jan","Feb","Mar","Apr","May","Jun","Jul","Aug","Sep","Oct","Nov","Dec")
var crosscount=''

function start_countup(){
if (document.layers)
document.countupnsmain.visibility="show"
else if (document.all||document.getElementById)
crosscount=document.getElementById&&!document.all?document.getElementById("countupie") : countupie
countup()
}

if (document.all||document.getElementById)
document.write('<span id="countupie" style="width:'+countupwidth+'; background-color:'+countupbgcolor+'"></span>')

window.onload=start_countup

function countup(){
var today=new Date()
var todayy=today.getYear()
if (todayy < 1000)
todayy+=1900
var todaym=today.getMonth()
var todayd=today.getDate()
var todayh=today.getHours()
var todaymin=today.getMinutes()
var todaysec=today.getSeconds()
var todaystring=montharray[todaym]+" "+todayd+", "+todayy+" "+todayh+":"+todaymin+":"+todaysec
paststring=montharray[mo-1]+" "+da+", "+yr
dd=Date.parse(todaystring)-Date.parse(paststring)
dyear=todayy-yr;
dday=Math.floor((dd/(60*60*1000*24)*1)%365)
dhour=Math.floor((dd%(60*60*1000*24))/(60*60*1000)*1)
dmin=Math.floor(((dd%(60*60*1000*24))%(60*60*1000) )/(60*1000)*1)
dsec=Math.floor((((dd%(60*60*1000*24))%(60*60*1000 ))%(60*1000))/1000*1)

if (document.layers){
document.countupnsmain.document.countupnssub.docum ent.write(opentags+dday+ " days, "+dhour+" hours, "+dmin+" minutes, and "+dsec+" seconds "+displaymessage+closetags)
document.countupnsmain.document.countupnssub.docum ent.close()
}
else if (document.all||document.getElementById)
crosscount.innerHTML=opentags+dyear+ " years, "+dday+ " days, "+dhour+" hours, "+dmin+" minutes "+displaymessage+closetags

setTimeout("countup()",1000)
}
/* ]]> */
</script>

</div>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
<if condition="$show['birthdays']">

<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="thead" colspan="2">
<a style="float:$stylevar[right]" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumhome_birthdays')"><img id="collapseimg_forumhome_birthdays" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/collapse_thead$vbcollapse[collapseimg_forumhome_birthdays].gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
$vbphrase[todays_birthdays]
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
<tbody id="collapseobj_forumhome_birthdays" style="$vbcollapse[collapseobj_forumhome_birthdays]">
<tr>
<td class="alt2"><a href="calendar.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getday&day=$today&sb=1"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/birthday.gif" alt="$vbphrase[view_birthdays]" border="0" /></a></td>
<td class="alt1" width="100%"><div class="smallfont">$birthdays</div></td>
</tr>
</tbody>

</if>
<if condition="$show['upcomingevents']">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td class="thead" colspan="2">
<a style="float:$stylevar[right]" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumhome_events')"><img id="collapseimg_forumhome_events" src="$stylevar[imgdir_button]/collapse_thead$vbcollapse[collapseimg_forumhome_events].gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
<if condition="$show['todaysevents']">$vbphrase[todays_events]<else /><phrase 1="$vboptions[showevents]">$vbphrase[upcoming_events_for_the_next_x_days]</phrase></if>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
<tbody id="collapseobj_forumhome_events" style="$vbcollapse[collapseobj_forumhome_events]">
<tr>
<td class="alt2"><a href="calendar.php$session[sessionurl_q]"><img src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/calendar.gif" alt="$vbphrase[calendar]" border="0" /></a></td>
<td class="alt1" width="100%"><div class="smallfont">$upcomingevents</div></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</if>
</table>
<br />


$footer
</body>
</html>

Ted S

04-17-2006, 03:31 AM

Ted S

04-17-2006, 03:32 AM

How would I change the color of the background like the screenshots?

You can modify the HTML by opening the template welcome_headers. Change any td/tr styles you wish.

freefallu

04-17-2006, 07:22 PM

lovely! [ARG:3 UNDEFINED] In the middle of the message is the only problem i have but Im sure I can fix it.

Suiko Jin

04-18-2006, 02:39 AM

I have a newb question here.

In the instructions

4) Modifying your phrases (optional)
4 new phrases are created as a part of this template hack including first_visit_message, welcome_unconfirmed, welcome_neverposted, and welcome_postmoreoften. While not required, it is recommended that you update these phrases to include language specific to your forum.

How do you modify phrases? I'd like to add those.

Ted S

04-18-2006, 02:41 AM

How do you modify phrases? I'd like to add those.

Go to your admin control panel, than the phrase manager and search for the phrase you wish to edit.

Suiko Jin

04-18-2006, 08:55 AM

Go to your admin control panel, than the phrase manager and search for the phrase you wish to edit.
*Slaps his forehead*
I should have known that. Thanks, works great!

RaceJunkie

04-18-2006, 10:25 AM

You can modify the HTML by opening the template welcome_headers. Change any td/tr styles you wish.

thank you

MorrisMcD

04-18-2006, 02:08 PM

This hack is great.. I still have users that get on that cant figure out registration though.. lol

Thanks for this hack though.. Top 10 to me for sure

Dermo-MIO

04-18-2006, 07:28 PM

i fixed my problem great plugin thankyou

defcon_420

04-18-2006, 09:35 PM

Excellent idea! I've had this installed for about a month and have noticed my registration rate more than double for the same period before the installation.
Great Job!

Buczilla

04-19-2006, 10:24 PM

Thank you very much for the hack! I hope I see similar results to yours! :D

freefallu

04-21-2006, 02:15 AM

Hi,
I specialise in SEO and from that standpoint I would like to sound a word of caution with this hack. Every page on your forum that the spiders read is going to have a block of text that is the exact same. If you do not use VBSEO then all your metas are also going to be the same. I am not saying that you should use VBSEO ,, most people on here dont seem to. What i am saying is that its negative points for you SE position overall with this plugin as before the bots get to the meat of your page ( the posts ) they will have read the same metas and the same text . Its known that google in particular places the most relevence to the first paragraph on the page in deciding what its about. So if all the first paragraphs are the same you run the risk of getting penalties as some bots may believe the pages to be slightly altered copies of each other ( doorway pages ).

The second consequence is that your site might be " themed " as a page about " you are a guest " as this in terms of your overall content is going to appear quite a bit.

What would be ideal:

That this banner was displayed for a few posts or cloaked out on user agent.

What to do practically and now:

I would suggest making sure the guest header includes your money keywords. E.g. " Welcome to the widget1 widget2 forum. As a guest you can gain some access to our threads about widget1 . However to view pictures of widget1 widget 2 you must register "

Dont stuff it full of keywords ( thats also bad ) , just keep it shiort and laced with keywords , my suggestion is not a template :)

Ted S

04-21-2006, 03:20 AM

Clearly having keywords and a good description in your welcome header is an important idea -- for search engines and for your users to understand the purpose of the site. With that said I have not noticed any negative impact of this hack on any of the major sites I've installed it to in terms of SE performance over a 6 or 12 month term.

With that said it is important to understand SEO and how your entire site relates to it. This hack is intended as a starting point -- I would not advise that anyone keeps their phrases default; that's just short changing yourself.

If you are truly concerned it is possible to set bots into their own usergroup and remove the welcome headers for them altogether. But as a word of caution, should an engine detect this, it could be seen as extremely negative.

freefallu

04-21-2006, 09:49 AM

Hi,

Dont get me wrong I think its a great hack. So thank you for posting it. This is my first experience with a community posting so freely hacks and mods for a programme i use and I think its brilliant:banana:

Mobilestan

04-21-2006, 11:44 AM

i install this product
but have this error on top of the all pages

Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_ENCAPSED_AND_WHITESPACE, expecting T_STRING or T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING in /home/mobilestan/public_html/global.php(503) : eval()'d code(2) : eval()'d code on line 5

please help me !!!

zurv

04-21-2006, 09:24 PM

Ted S

04-21-2006, 11:41 PM

It would be nice to make a way that this hack is hidden from spiders in the spiders xml file. This shouldnt be too hard to do..

It's not hard at all if you have a few other hacks running you can likely do it yourself.

rareclownfish

04-23-2006, 01:41 AM

Has anyone tried to make this work on thier portal yet?

zurv

04-23-2006, 04:58 AM

It's not hard at all if you have a few other hacks running you can likely do it yourself.

Ted_S, It would be great if the feature was integrated into the hack. I could always install the Search Bot User Group hack, but thats makes them see EVERYTHING as a registered user. Also it seems like a big hack for such a small problem.

Ted S

04-23-2006, 05:15 AM

Ted_S, It would be great if the feature was integrated into the hack. I could always install the Search Bot User Group hack, but thats makes them see EVERYTHING as a registered user. Also it seems like a big hack for such a small problem.

I don't particularly see that as a need everyone or most people would necessarily want by default. As I said in the first post, this hack is really meant to get you started. I would be glad to help you customize it for your site as it really is something that is meant to be tailored to every site as an individual and unique user experience.

Raydar

04-23-2006, 04:00 PM

Ted_S, It would be great if the feature was integrated into the hack.

Yes, this would be great for us. I don't think there is any reason why anyone would want a bot reading the same block of text over and over. Sure, you can place keywords into the text, but I think it would be better if the bot was reading the content of the page instead of a welcome header with keywords.

Don't get me wrong, this is a great hack and I love it, but here is where my problem lies -

For forums that focus on one subject, such as cars or planes it is easy to get keywords into your welcome text that relate to the page being crawled, because all pages basically are about the one subject.

But - my forums cover many subjects such as terrorism to tourism. It is hard to get keywords for all my subjects crammed into a welcome header.

So in my case it would be better to have the bot crawl the content of the page.

I think it would be great to have code placed into the hack somewhere that tells the bot to ignore the welcome header.

I can't write code, so I am at the mercy of the Guru's here.

Ted? :banana:

Thanks

Reg

Ted S

04-23-2006, 05:29 PM

zurv

04-23-2006, 06:34 PM

Well I didn't write the "Member Bots" hack so it would be wrong of me to steal and repurpose that code.

However, with just a little copying and pasting you can pull out the part used to determine if a visitor is indeed a bot and if so, you would not show them the welcome ehader's hack. This can all be done using the two plugins combined into one file.

I'd be glad to help more as needed.

And btw, I'm not actually a coder either. I'm a marketing consultant who happens to able to take a guess at that wierd php stuff. ;)

lol, and we appreciate the guess's you made to create this great hack. I think this is something we all need to look into, or maybe even talk to the "Bots as Members" creator to see if we could integrate the two and have a second version for this hack.

The problem also lies with.... Most search engines like to take the first text they see on a page as their "description". This means that a lot of your pages will have the same "Hello Guest" description. Instead of something related to the content on THAT page.

peterska2

04-23-2006, 10:36 PM

installed. now to see what happens.

chrisjp88

04-24-2006, 06:24 PM

Excellent idea, I hope it works for my community.

LB1UE

04-25-2006, 06:04 PM

Installed, but nothing pops up ... how do I specify that a particular group should see a welcome message ?

Danecookie

04-25-2006, 09:58 PM

I am having a problem, please see this thread https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=960027#post960027

Ted S

04-26-2006, 02:38 AM

Installed, but nothing pops up ... how do I specify that a particular group should see a welcome message ?

This hack does not use popups. The messages appear on every page of your forum.

You can modify who sees what message by editing the welcome_headers template.

Cueball

04-27-2006, 01:04 AM

All members see this message "Welcome to KUDOS FORUM.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view almost nothing. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, BLAH BLAH BLAH
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support. "

Any idea where I went wrong?

TIA :)

Ted S

04-27-2006, 01:23 AM

freefallu

04-27-2006, 09:19 AM

just to follow up on the SEO idea. With the recent big daddy google algo update I would advise keeping the guest message as short as possible. Googles params for differntiating a page have got stricter. That is to say the percentage to which content must be different in relation to the overall % is now higher .

If you have a small thread the header could take up 50% of the overall content , thus having the page flagged as a backdoor page. Too many backdoor pages and your out of the index ..

Therefore I would suggest keeping the header to no more than 2 sentances.

Cueball

04-28-2006, 01:02 AM

It sounds like you modified the welcome_headers template, if so, revert it. If not, reinstall the hack and check your modification to your FORUMHOME template to be sure you properly removed the original welcome message.
Thank you for such a fast response. Unfortunately, I still get the same message logged in as any user. I reverted both templates and uninstalled the product and started from scratch. Cant seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I rarely have any problems installing hacks, so I am confused as to why I am having an issue with one that so many people have already installed successfully. :( Any other suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Lammypie

04-28-2006, 07:10 AM

Hi, I really need to prevent these welcome headers from being visible to search engines, any ideas how I can do this?
I've already done searches on the forums, people talk about it, and that its easy, however I don't have much coding experience and am struggling to figure this out.

Any Suggestions?

RaceJunkie

04-30-2006, 11:44 PM

You can modify the HTML by opening the template welcome_headers. Change any td/tr styles you wish.

Below is my template but the colors i have set don't seem to work.

Click Here (http://www.localracechat.com/index.php?styleid=101)

<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT != 'register' AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'login'">

<if condition="$show['guest']">

<br />
<div align="center">
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#00FF00">
<tr>
<td class="alt1">
<phrase 1="faq.php?$session[sessionurl]" 2="register.php?$session[sessionurl]" 3="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[first_visit_message]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>

<else />

<if condition="is_member_of($bbuserinfo, 3)">

<br />
<div align="center">
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFF00">
<tr>
<td class="alt1">
<phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_unconfirmed]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>

<else />

<if condition="$bbuserinfo[posts]<1">

<br />
<div align="center">
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#FF0000">
<tr>
<td class="alt1">
<phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]" 2="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_neverposted]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>

<else />

<if condition="$headerstime - 1209600 > $bbuserinfo[lastpost]">

<br />
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="alt1" bgcolor="#008080">
<phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]" 2="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_postmoreoften]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

</if>
</if>
</if>
</if>
</if>

Ted S

05-01-2006, 12:18 AM

It looks like you only changed one of the headers...

<td class="alt1" bgcolor="#008080">

I might also recommend that you use css rather than html attributes to change the color. For example <td class="alt1" style="background-color:#008080">

RaceJunkie

05-01-2006, 01:11 AM

Ted S

05-01-2006, 01:34 AM

What other headers are there besides the welcome_headers template?

There are four different scenarios that display by default

- Guests
- Unconfirmed Users
- Users with no posts
- Users with no recent activity

dknelson

05-02-2006, 01:34 AM

I have to admit, when I saw this I didn't thing much of it but decided to give it a try anyway. It has made a GREAT difference in not only guest registration but also in getting members who hadn't posted to do so. Thanks.

Lammypie

05-02-2006, 09:21 AM

This link at vbseo explains that they prefer to install these headers in the nav bar instead. This solves alot of the problems with them overwriting the site text in the search engine listings. (and negates my request to block them for the search engines)

http://www.vbseo.com/f34/get-users-register-keep-them-coming-back-4654/?highlight=headers

Kind Regards

Chris

scooby_simon

05-06-2006, 02:24 PM

All,

I've implemented this, but it is not working. I just want to check I've removed enough of of the "FORUMHOME".

My amended code looks like this

$stylevar[htmldoctype]
<html dir="$stylevar[textdirection]" lang="$stylevar[languagecode]">
<head>

<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache" />
<meta http-equiv="Expires" content="-1" />
<meta http-equiv="Cache-Control" content="no-cache" />

$headinclude
<title><phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[x_powered_by_vbulletin]</phrase></title>
</head>
<body>
$header
$navbar


<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<thead>

chunk removed here

<tr align="center">
<td class="thead"> </td>
<td class="thead" width="100%" align="$stylevar[left]">$vbphrase[forum]</td>
<td class="thead" width="175">$vbphrase[last_post]</td>
<td class="thead">$vbphrase[threads]</td>
<td class="thead">$vbphrase[posts]</td>
<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">
<td class="thead">$vbphrase[moderator]</td>
</if>
</tr>
</thead>
$forumbits

scooby_simon

05-06-2006, 03:35 PM

monty3

05-07-2006, 06:52 AM

Hi, I installed this mod (have vB 3.5.4) and when I tested it out by signing up for a new account on my forum, I was still seeing the initial welcome message seen by unregistered guests, instead of the welcome_unconfirmed message.

Any idea why unconfirmed members are not seeing the right welcome message?

UPDATE: When I finished the registration by confirming it, I did then see the welcome_neverposted message, so, it appears to be mostly working, just not the welcome_unconfirmed part. This is what the welcome_headers template looks like. I simply removed the tables and wrapped the message in DIV tags, but everything else was left intact:

<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT != 'register' AND THIS_SCRIPT != 'login'">

<if condition="$show['guest']">



<div class="welcome_msg">
<phrase 1="faq.php?$session[sessionurl]" 2="register.php?$session[sessionurl]" 3="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[first_visit_message]</phrase>
</div>



<else />

<if condition="is_member_of($bbuserinfo, 3)">



<div class="welcome_msg">
<phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_unconfirmed]</phrase>
</div>



<else />

<if condition="$bbuserinfo[posts]<1">



<div class="welcome_msg">
<phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]" 2="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_neverposted]</phrase>
</div>



<else />

<if condition="$headerstime - 1209600 > $bbuserinfo[lastpost]">



<div class="welcome_msg">
<phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]" 2="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_postmoreoften]</phrase>
</div>



</if>
</if>
</if>
</if>
</if>

Ted S

05-08-2006, 02:30 AM

scooby_simon,
How exactly is it _not_ working?

Coast to Coast

05-08-2006, 02:46 AM

Will be installing this on the ATS community!

monty3

05-08-2006, 06:55 PM

Has anyone else got this to work properly? The "unconfirmed" welcome banner does not show up after a user registers. They still see the first_visit welcome banner, which is confusing. I posted more detail above.

coffee

05-09-2006, 12:28 AM

Thank you Ted Sindzinski.

Ted S

05-09-2006, 12:40 AM

cavyspirit

05-10-2006, 03:46 PM

I'm getting complaints from people that they are getting many activation emails--that I'm clogging up their inbox. Any ideas on what's wrong?

Ted S

05-11-2006, 03:53 AM

This plugin doesnt have anything to do with email. Check with your host or vbulletin support.

Stop

05-11-2006, 07:16 AM

A very powerful hack and thanks words are not enough.
Easy installed and perfectly working.

monty3

05-11-2006, 11:54 PM

What is your url?
Hi Ted. The URL is http://www.teensports.com.

But actually, it seems to be working now. Not sure what happened, because I didn't change a thing, but, the correct banners are now displaying. For some reason, the first time I tried testing it, it didn't seem to want to display the unconfirmed banner. But, I tested again in Safari and Firefox, and the banners worked both times as they should.

I guess it's one of those weird computer things. This is a very nice plugin, thanks for creating it! My forum is brand new, so, I can't say it's helping increase signups, but, it's at least a very helpful guide for new and unregistered visitors.

Boothby

05-12-2006, 05:01 PM

Hello,

my forum got disarranged with the first_visit_message phrase because vbulletin has its own first_visit_message. I don't know why. I renamed the phrase to welcome_first_visit_message and now all works fine.

When I changed the code in the parse_template-hook I didn't need to edit the the templates. ;)

if (isset($vbulletin->templatecache['FORUMHOME']) && preg_match("~" . preg_quote('', '~') . ".*" . preg_quote('', '~') . "~is", $vbulletin->templatecache['FORUMHOME'], $m))
{
$vbulletin->templatecache['FORUMHOME'] = str_replace($m[0], '', $vbulletin->templatecache['FORUMHOME']);
}

$vbulletin->templatecache['header'] .= "\n" . $vbulletin->templatecache['welcome_headers'];

Thanks for the hack. :)

mano1.com

05-13-2006, 03:49 AM

"click"

Thank you!

RemiAlone

05-13-2006, 09:46 AM

Thank you for this nice hack! :cool:

It took me a bit more then 15 minutes to install but that's because i'm not very familiar with editing and such. :rolleyes:

Bubble #5

05-13-2006, 10:08 PM

Ted please double check your XML file. I see two  :bunny:

Ahsin1

05-14-2006, 01:14 AM

Hello,

I have one question i want to change the hyperlink of "join our community today" to /register1.php :tired:

Could u plz tell me how to do that i clicked install lol :bunny:

Ted S

05-14-2006, 05:51 AM

Hello,

I have one question i want to change the hyperlink of "join our community today" to /register1.php :tired:

Could u plz tell me how to do that i clicked install lol :bunny:

Go into your admin cp, than the phrase manager, search for the phrase title first_visit_message and edit it (change the link {2} to whatever url you like).

Ahsin1

05-14-2006, 02:25 PM

Go into your admin cp, than the phrase manager, search for the phrase title first_visit_message and edit it (change the link {2} to whatever url you like).
Thanxx a lot

CoolHand_79

05-15-2006, 04:20 PM

Ok, where do I go to change the messages that are displayed?

Thanks,

Luke

PennylessZ28

05-15-2006, 04:45 PM

Every forum I visit has these stupid things now. I don't think they help one bit. In all honesty, most folks ignore them.

CLICKS UNINSTALL

Snake

05-15-2006, 05:18 PM

Use the Phrase Manager in the admincp.

Ted S

05-15-2006, 11:34 PM

Every forum I visit has these stupid things now. I don't think they help one bit. In all honesty, most folks ignore them.

Well you certainly shouldn't use it if you don't believe it works for you. Of course I've seen no data to indicate anything to that effect and infact, in some A/B split testing, I've found they work more now than they did when I first implement them thanks to improved copy and personalization. But every site is different and I'm certainly not one to advocate you use something you don't like.

Ted S

05-15-2006, 11:36 PM

Ok, where do I go to change the messages that are displayed?

Go into your admin cp, than the phrase manager, search for the following phrases:

first_visit_message
welcome_unconfirmed
welcome_neverposted
welcome_postmoreoften

Modify them as desired.

arcadian_girl

05-16-2006, 10:05 AM

i had put off installing this cos i thought it looked complicated...but it turns out i'm a dumbarse, cos it was actually ridiculously easy. only had it installed for one day, but i'm looking forward to see if my registration/posting increases. i already think it's a great hack tho, this should be standard with vb.

contactsonia

05-16-2006, 10:09 AM

Installed and it is working fine :)

monty3

05-16-2006, 03:50 PM

Every forum I visit has these stupid things now. I don't think they help one bit. In all honesty, most folks ignore them.
How do you know for sure most people ignore them? Have you done testing, or is this simply based on your personal opinion?

freefallu

05-16-2006, 11:18 PM

Every forum I visit has these stupid things now. I don't think they help one bit. In all honesty, most folks ignore them.

CLICKS UNINSTALL

Yes but your a forum geek and looking at things a different way to the average visitor perhaps. I have noticed a steady trickle of registrations. I cant say im getting a lot of people to post once registered. Perhaps I need to change the text a bit ,it is at least something i can try..

Zidane007nl

05-17-2006, 09:49 PM

Was really looking for this plugin, but luckely I've found it.
Great hack, works 100%!

Kwak

05-18-2006, 06:01 AM

Thank you for the great hack. Clicks install.

glowinggal

05-18-2006, 11:34 AM

how could you turn off one of the headers... my users foundn it offensive to be reminded to post when they were "lurkers" and were perusing and CHOSE not to make a post.

Darat

05-18-2006, 12:03 PM

how could you turn off one of the headers... my users foundn it offensive to be reminded to post when they were "lurkers" and were perusing and CHOSE not to make a post.

Why not just change the message and increase the time interval? That's what we did because of concerns like these, it's now only if you've not posted for a month the message comes up and we changed the message to a short and sweet:

Hello TestBot it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?

trinigamers

05-18-2006, 04:15 PM

hmm not finding it to edit..grr

glowinggal

05-18-2006, 05:09 PM

same here - I had trouble finding where to edit that one in particular.... Darat; thanks for the advise... anyone know specifically which one?

Darat

05-18-2006, 06:09 PM

It's the phrase "welcome_postmoreoften"

(ETA) - Come to think of it that may even be the original text?

Smitty

05-18-2006, 09:07 PM

Why not just change the message and increase the time interval?
Where does one change the Time Interval?

NOTE: Never mind. Found it in the xml file...

Ted S

05-19-2006, 02:32 AM

how could you turn off one of the headers... my users foundn it offensive to be reminded to post when they were "lurkers" and were perusing and CHOSE not to make a post.

Edit the template welcome_headers and remove whichever <if ...> </if> statement you like.

midirtrider

05-19-2006, 02:52 AM

Awsome plugin thank you very much!

harishankar

05-19-2006, 03:26 AM

Clicked install! Great job! Is there any way to actually get this below the navigation bar? I don't want it right below the logo!

Thanks for a great plugin! :)

oninuva

05-19-2006, 08:46 PM

how do i uh edit the phares?

Snake

05-20-2006, 05:42 PM

Admin CP - Phrase Manager :)

Pete C

05-21-2006, 03:31 AM

Really good modification - works just fine . . I sure hope it helps to get more folks onboard my site. And yes, as said previously - it would be nice to see this one included "as standard" with vB. I can't think of many forum-based sites where it won't be useful.

Many thanks for this one - clicks *Install* :)

The Radio Caf? - It Sounds Tasty! (http://radio-cafe.com/index.php)

oninuva

05-21-2006, 08:24 PM

Admin CP - Phrase Manager :)

i dont have that?

PennylessZ28

05-21-2006, 08:41 PM

Well you certainly shouldn't use it if you don't believe it works for you. Of course I've seen no data to indicate anything to that effect and infact, in some A/B split testing, I've found they work more now than they did when I first implement them thanks to improved copy and personalization. But every site is different and I'm certainly not one to advocate you use something you don't like.

What data and where?

I actually just took yours apart and recoded most all of it. Matter of fact, all I actually used was the <if statements>

oninuva

05-21-2006, 09:11 PM

it keeps coming on top of the nav bar

how do i make it go under

Bubble #5

05-21-2006, 09:26 PM

Try instaling it at the top of the forumhome template instead...

oninuva

05-21-2006, 09:40 PM

i delted everything in Forum Home

as it says in the instructions

Bubble #5

05-21-2006, 09:43 PM

...then I guess you'll need to 'revert' forumhome...

peterska2

05-21-2006, 09:47 PM

remove

$welcomeheaders from your header and add it to the bottom of the navbar template.

If you put it in the forumhome template then it will only show on forumhome and not globally.

Ted S

05-21-2006, 09:56 PM

What data and where?

I was referring to your post in which you stated this hack doesn't have any effectiveness -- I was asking if you had any data or evidence to that effect or if it was just a theory.

Jdm Ej1 Coupe

05-21-2006, 10:32 PM

I really thought this would be harder to do since I am new to all this but it was so easy Thanks for the great Mod and I hope it does improve my numbers on my site!
*Clicks Install*

louis_chypher

05-22-2006, 12:25 PM

Thank you very much for the Welcome headers mod/plugin. Several of my users have given the modification some very positive feedback.

I am going to read back through the posted messages, but will ask anyways. Is there a vB CMPS module for the Welcome header mod/plugin?

Vitz

05-22-2006, 08:31 PM

I didn't really see why I would want to install this at first, but after seeing the success, I came to my senses :P

Thanks for this. Great hack. I will definitely keep on using this.

Hornstar

05-23-2006, 01:35 AM

I have added this to the end of the navbar now, as i heard its better for SEO

http://www.gamerzneeds.net/forums

but you will see I have a gap above it and no gap below it.

I'm trying to make this part look a bit better. Any ideas?

also, I was thinking maybe it should be bold so it stands out more. What phrase should be edited to add bold to all the text?

Thanks

creedmaniac

05-24-2006, 08:22 AM

how can i get this to not show up on the main vbadvanced index page?

mhoooodi

05-24-2006, 08:34 AM

can i .. add a header for one user only .?
???

King of Kings

05-24-2006, 10:14 AM

Just installed it and looks great. So easy to install, even for me

peterska2

05-24-2006, 02:42 PM

how can i get this to not show up on the main vbadvanced index page?

In your header template replace$welcomeheaderswith<if confition="THIS_SCRIPT!=adv_index">$welcomeheaders</if>

Ted S

05-25-2006, 01:05 AM

can i .. add a header for one user only .?
???

Sure thing. Just edit the template welcome_headers and add a new conditional using the field username or userid.

webgroup

05-26-2006, 04:44 AM

Thank you for such a fast response. Unfortunately, I still get the same message logged in as any user. I reverted both templates and uninstalled the product and started from scratch. Cant seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I rarely have any problems installing hacks, so I am confused as to why I am having an issue with one that so many people have already installed successfully. :( Any other suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

The same is happening to me.

Any help?? my users are getting annoyed :confused:

Thanks!!

webgroup

05-26-2006, 04:58 AM

If like me, you want a banner to be displayed to people who have a paid subscription which is about to expire, you can achieve it with the following.
(Please note I am not a PHP coder and haven't written a vB Plugin before so if someone more knowledgeable could check the following for me I would be most grateful.)

Firstly create a global phrase named "welcome_soontoexpire" containing the message you want displayed. I chose the following...

<center><strong>Your Club Membership will expire in {1} days.</strong><br /><br />We hope you will choose to stay with us!</center>

...which will tell them their paid subscription is about to run out, plus it will tell them the number of days they have left.

Next edit the "welcome_headers" template and add...

<if condition="$headerexpiremembership != 0">

<br />
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="alt1" style="background-color:#FF0000;">
<phrase 1="$headerexpiremembership">$vbphrase[welcome_soontoexpire]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>


<else />

...before this line of code.

<if condition="$headerstime - 1209600 > $bbuserinfo[lastpost]">

Also add the following to the very end of the template.

</if>

Finally create a plugin for the "Welcome Headers" product with a hook location of "global_start". Set the title to "Soon to expire memberships", and add the following as the PHP plugin code.

$subscriptions_reminders = $vbulletin->db->query_read("
SELECT subscriptionid, expirydate
FROM " . TABLE_PREFIX . "subscriptionlog AS subscriptionlog
WHERE expirydate <= " . (TIMENOW + (86400 * 14)) . "
AND status = 1
AND userid = " . $vbulletin->userinfo['userid'] . "
");

while ($subscriptions_reminder = $vbulletin->db->fetch_array($subscriptions_reminders))
{
$headerexpiremembership = round((($subscriptions_reminder['expirydate'] - TIMENOW) / 86400),1);
}

That's it! It is hard coded to display the banner when the paid subscription has 14 days or less remaining. You can change the 14 on the following line to be however many days notice you want.

WHERE expirydate <= " . (TIMENOW + (86400 * 14)) . "

any updates on this feature?

webgroup

05-26-2006, 05:06 AM

Well at a minimum you should remove:

<thead>
<phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_to_the_x]</phrase></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="alt1" colspan="<if condition="$vboptions['showmoderatorcolumn']">6<else />5</if>">
<phrase 1="faq.php$session[sessionurl_q]" 2="register.php$session[sessionurl_q]">$vbphrase[first_visit_message]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>

However, your template is in need of some restoration. You have a </if> tag that doesnt correspond with an opening one as an example.

I didn't read this before, this fixed my problem!!

Thanks!!

arcadian_girl

05-26-2006, 05:56 AM

its only been about a week, but already i seem to be getting more registrations :) i installed the quick register hack too, to make it easier for ppl to register.. seems to be working :)

now if i could only get them to post more...

roscoe

05-27-2006, 08:18 PM

Does this thing mess up the "Paid Subscriptions" API. Now that i have it installed, the dam thing does not work? Anywork around for this?

Smitty

05-27-2006, 08:49 PM

Does this thing mess up the "Paid Subscriptions" API. Now that i have it installed, the dam thing does not work? Anywork around for this?
What doesn't work on it? I can't see any issue with Paid Subscriptions on my board.

Ted S

05-27-2006, 10:20 PM

Does this thing mess up the "Paid Subscriptions" API. Now that i have it installed, the dam thing does not work? Anywork around for this?

This plugin just adds templates and a litttle code to calculate the last posting date. There's nothing that touches the paid subscriptions what so ever.

Smitty

05-28-2006, 06:18 PM

I'd like to add some phrases / messages as has been discussed in a number of posts. So that I can reduce template and phrase modifications to a minimum, can I change the xml file instead? For example, after 8 days I move accounts (signups) that have not activated their accounts to a special user group (long story - something I started several years ago...) Can I add something like:<if condition="is_member_of($bbuserinfo, 13)">

<br />
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="alt1">
<phrase 1="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[email_verification_not_completed]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

<else />
and at the bottom add <phrase name="[email_verification_not_completed]"><![CDATA[<<font color="red">Although you have Registered, your account has not been verified so is not yet active! To Activate your Registration you have to verify your Registration by clicking a special link in the Welcome email which was sent to you when you registered.</font> If you have lost this email, or if it never arrived, please go <a href="./register.php?do=requestemail">Here</a> to request another activation email be sent to you. If you suspect you entered an incorrect email address, go <a href="./sendmessage.php">Here</a> and let me know so I can fix your record in the database. Please be sure to adjust your spam filter to 'White List' (allow) e-mail from xxx.com so that the Verification / Activation e-mail can reach you.]]></phrase> to the xml file.

My main interest is to be able to uninstall, if I need to, with as few template changes as possible.

forum_maniac

05-29-2006, 03:54 AM

I was concerned about the fact that the same text would appear on every page, so I modified the templates so that the welcome header will only appear on select pages (such as index, faq, search, etc.). I realize this diminishes the effectiveness of the welcome headers, but I did not like Google to see the same text over and over again.

I also thought about hiding the welcome text for spiders / bots, but I was concerned this would be against the SE TOS and would get me banned. I decided against this even though it seems some forums do that, for example one major forum has their pages at Google, but when you click on the search result you get a page that tells you that you must register.

Any thoughts?

just to follow up on the SEO idea. With the recent big daddy google algo update I would advise keeping the guest message as short as possible. Googles params for differntiating a page have got stricter. That is to say the percentage to which content must be different in relation to the overall % is now higher .

If you have a small thread the header could take up 50% of the overall content , thus having the page flagged as a backdoor page. Too many backdoor pages and your out of the index ..

Therefore I would suggest keeping the header to no more than 2 sentances.

kenji4861

05-29-2006, 04:45 AM

Guys this totally works.. Use to be the same 100 or so posters.. but adding this module.. brought in.. many new posters

Thank you!

http://www.spoofee.com/forums

Ted S

05-29-2006, 05:13 AM

I have updated the plugin to include better instructions and a vbSEO version which moves the templates into the navbar as per their recommendations.

FunaGuy

05-29-2006, 06:33 AM

gr8 upgrade
install

creedmaniac

05-29-2006, 08:48 AM

In your header template replace$welcomeheaderswith<if confition="THIS_SCRIPT!=adv_index">$welcomeheaders</if>

sorry it took so long...thanks!

BeaLzeBuB

05-29-2006, 12:03 PM

when i installed this hack => https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=82900 (Microstats - load times, server loads, queries, uncached templates)

its reports me

Page generated in 1.51093 seconds with 17 queries(1 queries for uncached templates) [Server Loads: 4.75 4.04 : 4.01]
Uncached templates: welcome_headers (1)

how i fix that?

Nathan2006

05-29-2006, 01:37 PM

Thank you for the update Ted S

:)

Ted S

05-29-2006, 07:26 PM

when i installed this hack => https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=82900 (Microstats - load times, server loads, queries, uncached templates)
how i fix that?

This plugin caches the welcome_headers template automatically, so either you have not fully installed the code or have a conflict with another plugin.

Check your plugin manager and be sure you have a plugin named "Welcome Headers [Template Cache]" in the "cache_templates" location.

With the code:
$globaltemplates[] = 'welcome_headers';

cavyspirit

05-29-2006, 07:32 PM

Regarding Google, Any reason we can't put ignore section targetting on the welcome header as explained in this thread? https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=107965&highlight=google+ignore+text

What is section targeting and how do I implement it?

Section targeting allows you to suggest sections of your text and HTML content that you'd like us to emphasize or downplay when matching ads to your site's content. By providing us with your suggestions, you can assist us in improving your ad targeting. We recommend that only those familiar with HTML attempt to implement section targeting.

To implement section targeting, you'll need to add a set of special HTML comment tags to your code. These tags will mark the beginning and end of whichever section(s) you'd like to emphasize or de-emphasize for ad targeting.

The HTML tags to emphasize a page section take the following format:





You can also designate sections you'd like to have ignored by adding a (weight=ignore) to the starting tag:



With these tags added to your HTML code, your final code may look like the following:

<html><head><title>Section targeting</title></head>
<body>


This is the text of your web page. Most of your content resides here.


</body>
</html>
You can use section targeting to make suggestions about as many sections of a page as you like. However, please be aware that we can't guarantee results, and that it may take up to 2 weeks before our crawlers take into account any changes you've made to your site.

In order to properly implement this feature, you'll need to include a significant amount of content within the section targeting tags. Including insufficient content may result in less relevant ads or PSAs. In addition, please keep in mind that this feature should only be used to emphasize significant sections of your site's relevant content. It is against our program policies to manipulate the ad targeting to result in ads that are not relevant to the content of your pages.

Ted S

05-29-2006, 09:47 PM

CrossBones

05-29-2006, 10:55 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by "moves the templates into the navbar" ...this seems to be the only option now. I am using a custom Xtremepixels skin (http://www.extremepixels.com/forum/). Will the modification work with that?

Also I am very new at this and wonder if you could clarify exactly were you put the "$welcomeheaders". It says "croll to the very end of the template code"?...is there somewhere specifically I need to put it...i.e, right after a certain thing/word? Sorry for the newie questions I just don't wnat to screw anything up.

Thanks, very much.

Ted S

05-30-2006, 12:16 AM

Also I am very new at this and wonder if you could clarify exactly were you put the "$welcomeheaders". It says "croll to the very end of the template code"?...is there somewhere specifically I need to put it...i.e, right after a certain thing/word?

At the very end of the template. Yes, it is just that simple

I am using a custom Xtremepixels skin. Will the modification work with that?
I've never used (or heard of) xtremepixels, I assume it will work fine but you'd have to test or ask their support team to know.

I'm not sure what you mean by "moves the templates into the navbar"
In the vbSEO version, the welcome headers are placed lower on the page so as to have limited SEO impact.

There are you answers, in no particular order.

CrossBones

05-30-2006, 12:56 AM

At the very end of the template. Yes, it is just that simple

I've never used (or heard of) xtremepixels, I assume it will work fine but you'd have to test or ask their support team to know.

In the vbSEO version, the welcome headers are placed lower on the page so as to have limited SEO impact.

There are you answers, in no particular order.Thank you.

havefun

05-30-2006, 02:04 PM

very nice plug, thx :)

RemiAlone

05-30-2006, 02:59 PM

Installed the update, great plugin :)

tommyxv

06-01-2006, 03:51 AM

So if i don't use vbseo and already have v4.06 installed, there is no need to upgrade as it's only an update to the install instructions???

davelacey

06-01-2006, 08:25 AM

*Clicks installed*
One of the best hacks around.

However, I do seem to have a slight problem with two of my styles, ("Black & Gold" and "Heavy Metal") where the initial wm duplicates itself - the second one as below.

"Welcome to the [ARG:3 UNDEFINED] forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!"

If anyone would care to take a look (http://www.talk-and-banter.com/index.php?styleid=2), they'll see what I mean.

Any suggestions will be gratefully received. Thanks. :)

CrossBones

06-01-2006, 12:45 PM

CrossBones

06-01-2006, 12:46 PM

nm...it appears larger than I've seen normally in FF too! :eek:

MotoUp

06-01-2006, 01:55 PM

If I update this, am I going to have to re-edit my phrases?

davelacey

06-01-2006, 03:49 PM

Yeah I see what you mean.

And, I also see what some are saying about the "Shout Box" appearing larger than it should be when viewed in Safari. Not cool. :mad:
Very helpful.
Thankyou.

Ted S

06-02-2006, 01:04 AM

So if i don't use vbseo and already have v4.06 installed, there is no need to upgrade as it's only an update to the install instructions???

Nope. The update does not change any behavoir in the main version of the script.

Ted S

06-02-2006, 01:06 AM

If I update this, am I going to have to re-edit my phrases?

You shouldn't need to, but the update is very minor so really there's no reason to install it at this point. In the future if anything substantial is changed, an announcement will be posted.

vbSEO compliance can be achieved by moving the $welcomeheaders variable out of the header template and into the end of the navbar template.

Ted S

06-02-2006, 01:07 AM

Any suggestions will be gratefully received. Thanks. :)

It looks like you didn't quite manage to follow all of the instruction steps. Open your forumhome template and remove the code as stated in the instructions, that should clear up the duplicate message!

skooby

06-02-2006, 01:10 AM

This is really awesome, thanks a lot

Just having a slight problem. I am using VB 3.54 with CMPS. On the homepage CMPS, it looks great, but if I go to the forum, the welcome header is appearing twice. I'm not sure if it has something to do with the template I'm using. I included a screenshot if anyone has an idea of how to fix this. Thanks again

PS: I"m using the non-VBSeo version

peterska2

06-02-2006, 01:13 AM

skooby, have you done the template edit in the forumhome template? That is to remove the lower box to stop it appearing twice.

DementedMindz

06-02-2006, 01:33 AM

ok i installed the vbseo one well not really i had the old one installed i seen you moved $welcomeheaders to navbar temmplate now... instead of header so i tried to move $welcomeheaders to my navbar... all went fine but the thing is when you do that with vbadvanced it dont show the welcome message on the portal page... is there a way to fix that? it shows fine on my forums page though

peterska2

06-02-2006, 01:43 AM

If I remember correctly off the top of my head, vBA has it's own navbar template which you will need to also edit.

skooby

06-02-2006, 03:02 AM

Fixed

davelacey

06-02-2006, 07:53 AM

It looks like you didn't quite manage to follow all of the instruction steps. Open your forumhome template and remove the code as stated in the instructions, that should clear up the duplicate message!
Hi and thanks for responding :)
I had followed your instructions - except that I discovered that simply editing the "parent" forumhome template didn't make the necessary changes to all the styles I have on board.
All is now good, however.
Great hack and thankyou. :)

tommyxv

06-02-2006, 08:04 AM

Nope. The update does not change any behavoir in the main version of the script.

Thanks Ted!

DementedMindz

06-02-2006, 03:36 PM

If I remember correctly off the top of my head, vBA has it's own navbar template which you will need to also edit.

Would you know which template that is?

FunaGuy

06-02-2006, 04:32 PM

Upgrade

lindab2

06-05-2006, 02:22 PM

Very nice!

Snake

06-05-2006, 03:58 PM

Thanks for the vBSEO update! :)

Polo

06-05-2006, 08:12 PM

really smart hack... definetly will install...

DementedMindz

06-05-2006, 08:47 PM

If I remember correctly off the top of my head, vBA has it's own navbar template which you will need to also edit.

Would you know which template that is? i cant seem to get the seo one to work with vbadvanced i been messing with it but which template should it go in?

peterska2

06-05-2006, 09:21 PM

Would you know which template that is? i cant seem to get the seo one to work with vbadvanced i been messing with it but which template should it go in?

I've had a look (had to install vBA specially for you, to check :p) and it uses the normal navbar template, so anything in there will show on the vBA CMPS page.

DementedMindz

06-05-2006, 09:28 PM

Well i have tried adding $welcomeheaders to my navbar template at the end... yes it shows up on the forums page but not on vbadvanced page at all.. if i keep it in the header it shows up on both... just trying to get it to work for the vbseo one...

louis_chypher

06-07-2006, 04:08 PM

Well i have tried adding $welcomeheaders to my navbar template at the end... yes it shows up on the forums page but not on vbadvanced page at all..

in the Admin CP

go to: vBa CMPS

Select: "Default Settings"

Find: Portal Output Global Variables

enter into the text box:

welcomeheaders

save

and that is it.

I did not edit or add or change anything else.

DementedMindz

06-07-2006, 04:11 PM

what along with $welcomeheaders to navbar?

bada_bing

06-08-2006, 11:45 AM

How do I remove the non SEO version and properly install the SEO version. I dont understand the instructions on how to do this, can someone explain the step by step please

redlabour

06-08-2006, 04:03 PM

Will it work in the Future with vBulletin 3.6 (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187654) ?

sam anders

06-08-2006, 08:47 PM

great mod and installed with easy thanks, but i have 1 question how do i edit the phrases?

which files do i edit?

JJRose

06-09-2006, 12:34 AM

Hello,

I have just installed the Welcome Message mod and all is working well. It's a great idea, and I agree it should be part of the standard VBulletin board.

I only have one small problem....

Each time I log in (as administrator), I get the 'unconfirmed' message. I clicked on the link to send another activation code (several times), but never got an email (am using correct email).

I wondered if the activation code request wasn't working, so I started up another plain registered user account, and in the admin control panel made this account 'awaiting email confirmation'. When I logged in as this user, I got the 'unconfirmed' message, as I should have, then clicked on the re-send activation link. I received the email and clicked on the link to activate. The account became activated again, and I got the right message again. So, it's not the activation code re-send feature that is at fault, because it's working for normal users.

It seems this is only happening for me at the administrator status level. I know that when I first started this board, I added this account manually in the admin control panel.

So I'm thinking that perhaps those accounts that were started up manually via the control panel are the issue?

I am wondering how I can get around this, as I don't want to constantly see this wrong message each time I log in as admin. I should also be able to receive the activation code by email.

The board is here: http://forum.visionary-spiritual-institute.com.au.

Looking forward to a solution to this issue.

Warm regards,
JJRose

Ted S

06-09-2006, 02:46 AM

How do I remove the non SEO version and properly install the SEO version. I dont understand the instructions on how to do this, can someone explain the step by step please

Open the template header, scroll to the end and remove the variable $welcomeheaders. Close the template.

Open the template navbar, scroll to the end and add the variable $welcomeheaders. Close the template.

Ted S

06-09-2006, 02:47 AM

JJRose,
Login to your ACP and see what usergroups you belong to. Be sure to check secondary groups. If that appears right, look at your usergroup settings page to be sure those match the default vbulletin structure.

Ted S

06-09-2006, 02:48 AM

great mod and installed with easy thanks, but i have 1 question how do i edit the phrases?

which files do i edit?

No file editing is necessary. You can manage the phrases through your phrase manager.

Ted S

06-09-2006, 02:48 AM

Will it work in the Future with vBulletin 3.6 (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187654) ?

It should. When 3.6 final is released, I'll update the hack version.

onewaydom

06-09-2006, 06:30 AM

Hello. I am trying to remove this hack. I uninstaled and removed the edits. I can't get my orginal welcome back up. I have the top where is says Welcome to, but nothing below it. Any ideas?

Neo_Angelo

06-09-2006, 11:49 AM

is there a way for a message welcome message type thing to show up if a user hasn't posted in a while, i found one on Shinraonline.com and when you've haven't posted in so long a message is displayed saying you are a slacker and not meeting the required post count, we'll send our team of garden gnomes round to you if you don't make some posts quick!.

i wanted something like that for mine, i'll give this ago it looks great

louis_chypher

06-09-2006, 04:00 PM

Ted S,

Want to thank you for this most excellent mod (been running it for about a month now). With the new users feeling they are 'personally' invited to post in the introduction forum (on the site). Introductions by new users have went way up. Also, I receive numerous comments from new users of their positive feelings of being 'personally' invited to post an introduction.

zooki

06-09-2006, 09:44 PM

Thank you Ted !!

Ted S

06-10-2006, 12:00 AM

Hello. I am trying to remove this hack. I uninstaled and removed the edits. I can't get my orginal welcome back up. I have the top where is says Welcome to, but nothing below it. Any ideas?

Since you are no longer using variables, you need to modify your welcome phrase to no longer include {1} or {2}.

Ted S

06-10-2006, 12:00 AM

Ted S

06-10-2006, 12:01 AM

louis_chypher & Zooki,
Thank you both for the feedback!

OKIHost

06-10-2006, 03:32 PM

I can't seem to uninstall this.

I have removed the plugin, checked that no phrases are in the system, checked all my templates are back to default and also tried to reinstall then uninstall again with no luck.

Welcome to the [ARG:3 UNDEFINED].

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. If you are interested in our hosting services why not join for free which will allow you to post questions and topics in out pre-sales and general forums, communicate privately via PM with other members and staff and respond to polls. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

zooki

06-10-2006, 09:54 PM

I dunno, there doesnt seem to be away of editing the phrases in my VBulletin, there are no edit buttons in the Phrase Manager. how do i edit Phrases? all there is in the page is a text box for adding an optional translation

Ted S

06-11-2006, 03:45 AM

zooki -
The english translation is where you add your custom phrase.

OKIHost -
You need to revert the main welcome phrase. Right now it has variables in it which are not paresed by the default template.

JohnGBSA

06-11-2006, 01:59 PM

Firstly, one of the best mods ever!

Then I would like to change the custome phrases from: Welcome [USERNAME] to Welcome [FIRSTNAME].

I have custom fields on the user registration so I have fields for FIRSTNAME and LASTNAME for all members.

More specifically the current phrases are "Hello {1}". What do I put in place of the {1} to get a custom field?

Thanks,

John

OKIHost

06-11-2006, 02:43 PM

Hi Ted,

Thank you for your reply. I did look in phrases and the only thing I see is welcome_x which I set back to defaul but still get the same thing.

Sorry this is probably something stupid I am missing.

Ted S

06-11-2006, 07:14 PM

JohnGBSA,
Open the template welcomeheaders and change the variable $bbuserinfo[username] to whatever you would like to use ($bbuserinfo[fieldX).

OKIHost,
You need to revert the phrase you are using in your welcome message to not include {1}.

filmking

06-11-2006, 10:43 PM

JohnGBSA

06-11-2006, 10:50 PM

Thanks Ted

onewaydom

06-12-2006, 12:32 AM

Hi,

How do I perform a complete uninstall of this. I have everything remove, but now I can't get my orginal welcome header to show the text. I get the block that says welcome, but nothing below it?

Ted S

06-12-2006, 01:59 AM

Hi,

How do I perform a complete uninstall of this. I have everything remove, but now I can't get my orginal welcome header to show the text. I get the block that says welcome, but nothing below it?

Step 1. Uninstall the plugin.

Step 2. Revert your forumhome template or copy back the default welcome message.

Step 3. Revert any modified phrases.

Ted S

06-12-2006, 02:00 AM

How can I delete the Welcome messages for "never posted" and "post_more_often"? Once members are fully registred these messages are causing members to get upset, they don't like being pestered. The other two encouraging completeing moderation and initial welcome are just fine and I want to keep those. Thanks

Edit the template welcomeheaders and remove:

<if condition="$bbuserinfo[posts]<1">

<br />
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="alt1">
<phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]" 2="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_neverposted]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

<else />

<if condition="$headerstime - 1209600 > $bbuserinfo[lastpost]">

<br />
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="$stylevar[cellpadding]" cellspacing="$stylevar[cellspacing]" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
<td class="alt1">
<phrase 1="$bbuserinfo[username]" 2="$vboptions[bbtitle]">$vbphrase[welcome_postmoreoften]</phrase>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

</if>
</if>

OKIHost

06-13-2006, 01:29 AM

Ted S

06-13-2006, 03:36 AM

I uninstalled the plugin and checked the phrases and they do not exist any longer (looking at the instructions which include the names) but I still get the same thing.

I am totally lost and just want to get rid of this for the time being.

The default phrase is named "first_visit_message" which can not be deleted. This phrase needs to be reverted to no longer contain {1} or any other variable.

In the next version of this system, this issue will been resolved for any future users.

Speaking of which... a major upgrade is coming this weekend.

OKIHost

06-13-2006, 02:03 PM

Thanks Ted, it was actually a {3} that I needed to remove which did the trick.

Thanks again and looking forward to the new version :)

desimo

06-16-2006, 04:48 AM

hi, this works perfectly for me in IE but not in Firefox

is there a solution to this problem (I searched for it but couldn't find it)?

contactsonia

06-16-2006, 04:54 AM

Do you get any errors or the text is not displayed?

desimo

06-16-2006, 05:16 AM

hi, this works perfectly for me in IE but not in Firefox

Sorry, how foolish of me not to have LOGGED OUT before testing in FF. It actually works great in all browsers I have tested.

Thanks!

Eric

06-16-2006, 07:48 AM

I installed this a while ago, but never found the time to post in this thread. I'd just like to say thanks Ted S, it is a wonderful modification. :)

shanemcse

06-16-2006, 07:14 PM

Great hack. I love it. I have one question. Between the login section and this hack there is a large space I want to remove. How would I do this? Or if I could I would like to ad a single space before and after this notice. I know this is probably an easy thing to do but I am still pretty new to vbulletin.

ThePiston

06-16-2006, 08:02 PM

I have a question...
I created about 50 custom (primary) usergroups that all have the usual registered privelages. If I log into VB with one of these accounts, the headers do not show. How can I fix that?

Ted S

06-17-2006, 12:23 AM

JJRose

06-18-2006, 10:18 AM

Hello,
I wrote this a few days ago, but don't seem to have had a reply as yet (that I can see). So, here it is again, would be grateful for some assistance........

I have just installed the Welcome Message mod and all is working well. It's a great idea, and I agree it should be part of the standard VBulletin board.

I only have one small problem....

Each time I log in (as administrator), I get the 'unconfirmed' message. I clicked on the link to send another activation code (several times), but never got an email (am using correct email).

I wondered if the activation code request wasn't working, so I started up another plain registered user account, and in the admin control panel made this account 'awaiting email confirmation'. When I logged in as this user, I got the 'unconfirmed' message, as I should have, then clicked on the re-send activation link. I received the email and clicked on the link to activate. The account became activated again, and I got the right message again. So, it's not the activation code re-send feature that is at fault, because it's working for normal users.

It seems this is only happening for me at the administrator status level. I know that when I first started this board, I added this account manually in the admin control panel.

So I'm thinking that perhaps those accounts that were started up manually via the control panel are the issue?

I am wondering how I can get around this, as I don't want to constantly see this wrong message each time I log in as admin. I should also be able to receive the activation code by email.

The board is here: http://forum.visionary-spiritual-institute.com.au.

Looking forward to a solution to this issue.

Warm regards,
JJRose

Ted S

06-18-2006, 06:27 PM

JJRose,
Check your admin account and be sure you are not in any other user groups or secondary groups that could effect this. Also, this hack is based on the default usergroup structure, if you have modified the core groups or created a new administrator group, it could mess things up. If this is the case, compare your usergroups against the logic in the welcome_headers template.

filmking

06-18-2006, 11:35 PM

Thanks for your help on making the modification I requested. Works fine for me now.

Ted S

06-24-2006, 10:38 PM

Important note: The welcome headers system has been ugpraded to include some major modifications. Please review the main thread and upgrade instructions prior to updating your version. Only one manual change is required to upgrade.

Bubble #5

06-24-2006, 10:47 PM

Thanks Ted :)

Wow this hack sure has come a long way since it's first version. It's currently one of our favorite hacks :bunny: We're about to test it in beta 3 now ;)

Ted S

06-24-2006, 11:16 PM

Wow this hack sure has come a long way since it's first version. It's currently one of our favorite hacks :bunny: We're about to test it in beta 3 now ;)

Please let me know how it goes with the 3.6 beta. I did a lot of testing here but I haven't had much feedback on the new version yet!

Bubble #5

06-24-2006, 11:29 PM

Here is what we found so far with beta 3 Ted. First, it won't let you edit the messages :surprised:

It gives you a "No Phrases Matched Your Query" error.

It appears to just be the link that's bad. Searching for the phrases manually DOES work. The problem appears to coming from these links:

<a href="./phrase.php?do=edit&e[1][phrase name]">click here</a>

Also the place where you enter in the amount of days to wait before the Post More Often message appears to not be working. We have it set to 14 and the message appears even though we posted today.

Ted S

06-25-2006, 01:02 AM

Bubble,
Very interesting. I just installed another copy of beta 3 and the links as well as the post message seem to work.

To be clear, you were running 3.6 beta 3 with the 3.6 hack version (rather than the 3.5 version)?

If you don't mind, shoot me a pm with the url so I can take a look... if that's ok.

rgbivens

06-25-2006, 04:34 AM

Great update! I love this!

-Grant

Darat

06-25-2006, 08:21 AM

Thanks for the update Ted - makes it a lot easier to configure so an already top Mod becomes even better.

A quick question - have a I misunderstood the new "Step Five: General Announcements"? From your description I thought this would appear if someone clicked on "New Posts"?

ETA - Oops sorry my silly mistake :ermm: I had customised the old welcome_headers template and of course I hadn't reverted it so the upgrade was still using the old version.

armstrong

06-25-2006, 12:08 PM

version 4.0.7 had two versions: a regular one, plus one made for vbseo. Would upgrading using this work for both versions? I have vbseo installed.

Thanks for creating such a useful hack!

oberheimhaven

06-25-2006, 01:39 PM

However where is she at???? I could not find anywhere in admncp> anywhere

Any help would be greaty appreciated

Wendy

Darat

06-25-2006, 01:53 PM

AdminCP>vBulletin Options>vBulletin Options>Welcome Header System

Bubble #5

06-25-2006, 04:01 PM

To be clear, you were running 3.6 beta 3 with the 3.6 hack version (rather than the 3.5 version)?
We double checked Ted by uninstalling what we had, and installing the welcomeheaders_4_1_0_vb3_6.zip for 3.6. All of the links work EXCEPT the Never Posted link, which still gives us the "No Phrases Matched Your Query" error. We also still have the problem where the amount of days to wait before the Post More Often message appears to not be working. We have it set to 14 days and yet the message appears (see screenshot) even though we posted just yesterday.

Bubble #5

06-25-2006, 04:45 PM

We also still have the problem where the amount of days to wait before the Post More Often message appears to not be working. We have it set to 14 days and yet the message appears even though we posted just yesterday.
Here's an update Ted: This only seems to be happening on the main Admin account. Regular members do not see the message. To double check we posted another message today and the 'post more often' message still appeared.

G_Man

06-25-2006, 07:25 PM

Fine Update. Making a great hack even better. Cheers. :D

Ted S

06-26-2006, 03:27 AM

version 4.0.7 had two versions: a regular one, plus one made for vbseo. Would upgrading using this work for both versions? I have vbseo installed.

The vbSEO changes are very, very simple and just require you to mvoe the placement of the $welcomeheaders variable. Upgrading will have no impact on this what so ever.

Ted S

06-26-2006, 03:29 AM

Here's an update Ted: This only seems to be happening on the main Admin account. Regular members do not see the message. To double check we posted another message today and the 'post more often' message still appeared.

Thanks for the extra information, I will take a look at the code tomorrow and get back to you.

MSC

06-26-2006, 04:36 AM

There seems to be a couple of lines of blank space above the Welcome Headers announcements. How do I get rid of these?

Thanks,

Chris

Ted S

06-27-2006, 02:00 AM

MSC,
You can remove any extra <br /> tags from your navbar template.

MotoUp

06-27-2006, 08:45 PM

Excellent upgrade. Much easier to manage...THANK YOU!

ubblite

06-28-2006, 02:06 PM

We also still have the problem where the amount of days to wait before the Post More Often message appears to not be working. We have it set to 14 days and yet the message appears (see screenshot) even though we posted just yesterday.
For the record, I have this same problem - I'm running vb3.6 beta 3.

Snake

06-29-2006, 06:25 PM

Thank you for the update! :)

letsjoy

07-01-2006, 02:44 AM

thanx for this mod

Shazz

07-01-2006, 03:00 AM

Its not improving mine :(
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iLuvThisSite

07-07-2006, 01:11 AM

GREAT mod & thanks for the update.

Question 1)
After installing the update, a friend of mine pointed out to me that on the Welcome_guest message, if a user clicks on the "join our community today" link, they get an error page. After a little investigating, it looks like the url that it points the user to is: http://www.aliyahsupport.com/register.php? when it should be http://www.aliyahsupport.com/forums/register.php? . When i looked at the text for the Welcome_guest message, the link only shows <a href="{2}">. I'm not sure what that 2 is, but if it refers to the Forum URL (under vbulletin options) than it has the correct info there: http://www.aliyahsupport.com/forums
Any ideas why users are getting the error page instead of the registration page?

Question 2)
Is it possible to move the Welcom Box under the navbar ?

TIA

Ted S

07-07-2006, 01:52 AM

1 - Modify the template welcome_headers

2 - Move the variable $welcomeheaders as you see fit

sim

07-07-2006, 07:25 AM

I'm not sure I understand how the "Enable One-View Welcome Headers" feature is supposed to work.

I enabled this feature and then visited my site as a guest and the headers were always shown for every page I visited.

I then logged in as one of my test users who has never posted, and they also saw the headers for every page visited.

I expected them to only see the headers on the first page, with subsequent pages hiding the headers until their next session. Is that what is supposed to happen ?

Ted S

07-07-2006, 10:56 PM

What is the url to your forum?

sim

07-07-2006, 11:47 PM

What is the url to your forum?

My forums are at: http://www.invested.com.au/forums/

keith455

07-08-2006, 06:22 AM

GREAT mod & thanks for the update.

Question 1)
After installing the update, a friend of mine pointed out to me that on the Welcome_guest message, if a user clicks on the "join our community today" link, they get an error page. After a little investigating, it looks like the url that it points the user to is: http://www.aliyahsupport.com/register.php? when it should be http://www.aliyahsupport.com/forums/register.php? . When i looked at the text for the Welcome_guest message, the link only shows <a href="{2}">. I'm not sure what that 2 is, but if it refers to the Forum URL (under vbulletin options) than it has the correct info there: http://www.aliyahsupport.com/forums
Any ideas why users are getting the error page instead of the registration page?
TIA

I'm having the same problem as this guy. I have CMPS installed and from the main CMPS page it points to www.mysitename.com/register.php if i go to the forums which is www.mysitename.com/forums the links work fine.
Seems i have to put in the full static address somewhere, but I can't find where. Thanks

Ted S

07-08-2006, 06:23 AM

I'm having the same problem as this guy. I have CMPS installed and from the main CMPS page it points to www.mysitename.com/register.php if i go to the forums which is www.mysitename.com/forums the links work fine.
Seems i have to put in the full static address somewhere, but I can't find where. Thanks

Change the template and/or phrase per my previous post.

iLuvThisSite

07-08-2006, 06:06 PM

2 - Move the variable $welcomeheaders as you see fit

Can someone tell me where i need to move the variable so that the navbar will show above it? is that even possible?
I tried a bunch of different places and nothing worked so far.

Shazz

07-08-2006, 06:38 PM

*clicks install.
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Ted S

07-08-2006, 06:44 PM

Can someone tell me where i need to move the variable so that the navbar will show above it? is that even possible?
I tried a bunch of different places and nothing worked so far.

The end of your navbar template works well.

Adamlr81

07-08-2006, 08:34 PM

Simply great!

redlabour

07-14-2006, 09:27 AM

Please use the Updatefunction next Time so that we get a Mail if a Update is released.

iLuvThisSite

07-14-2006, 12:37 PM

The end of your navbar template works well.

Problem is - if i put it anywhere in the navbar template, it doesn't show up on my homepage...only throughout my forum pages.
(i also have vbadvanced installed)

Any ideas on why that is? or how to fix it?

bada_bing

07-14-2006, 02:15 PM

Wow I just noticed there was a newer verion of this I must of missed the update email.

CrossBones

07-14-2006, 03:30 PM

I have installed this ad-on but wonering if it is working properly.

http://www.afcwestforums.com/

When I go to the front page of my CMPS or the forum index the headers seem to be there. But if I go to a thread (forum) the header doesn't seem to be there. Is this correct? I was under the impression that the header should appear on any page that a guest would find his/her way to...isn't that the whole point?

Please advise. I wonder if I did something worng. :cross-eyed: