Kinda slow loading?

[flstreetscene]

It;s taking quite a bit for the front page to load up for me;

www.floridastreetscene.com

or it it normal?

My server load is 1.06 0.79 0.65 | 21 Users Online (13 members and 8 guests)

Server specs;
Processor Information

Processor #1 Vendor: GenuineIntel
Processor #1 Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz
Processor #1 speed: 3066.184 MHz
Processor #1 cache size: 512 KB

Processor #2 Vendor: GenuineIntel
Processor #2 Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz
Processor #2 speed: 3066.184 MHz
Processor #2 cache size: 512 KB

Memory Information

Memory: 1024376k/1040320k available (1956k kernel code, 15560k reserved, 754k data, 136k init, 122816k highmem)

[Adrian Schneider]

Hmm my front page is extremely slow also, I just figured it was because of our lame hosting company...

Both vBadvanced too, hmm ^.-

[Adrian Schneider]

Meh, I'm stupid, didn't see it was in the vBadvanced forum. :P

**BUMP** anyone else have this problem, or could look into it?

[mykes]

Warning:

I installed this and my site's load average went from .45 up to 15+ before I hacked it out.

It was so bad the site stopped responding to requests.

I went to the vbadvanced support site and found that some people claimed it was the stats module. I turned it off, and it didn't change anything.

Even worse, there's posts on the vbadvanced site talking about how some web sites ended up with corrupt databases.

So...

Install at your own risk!

It looks like great software. There's something really evil in it that needs to be exorcised.

The site I ran it on has 300+ online users most of the time and 1.8M+ posts. A busy site.

[Zachery]

Warning:

I installed this and my site's load average went from .45 up to 15+ before I hacked it out.

It was so bad the site stopped responding to requests.

I went to the vbadvanced support site and found that some people claimed it was the stats module. I turned it off, and it didn't change anything.

Even worse, there's posts on the vbadvanced site talking about how some web sites ended up with corrupt databases.

So...

Install at your own risk!

It looks like great software. There's something really evil in it that needs to be exorcised.

The site I ran it on has 300+ online users most of the time and 1.8M+ posts. A busy site.
mykes, do you really know what you are talking about?


Brian has been running the software for ages on his own rather large forum.

Now, the things that could cause the load are any full table scans.

Are you showing the ammount of new posts / threads since last visit or anything else?

[mykes]

mykes, do you really know what you are talking about?


Brian has been running the software for ages on his own rather large forum.

Now, the things that could cause the load are any full table scans.

Are you showing the ammount of new posts / threads since last visit or anything else?

I turned the stats module OFF. As well as most of the modules, except for the news one, latest forum topics, and the show users.

If the hack requires indexes to be created, it should create them.

Or the install instructions should include info on which ones need to be created.

If people running big sites run this out of the box, it's got a huge potential to tank their whole site.

I apologize for sounding alarmist over this, but it is a huge deal when you install something like this and it takes your site off the air for 15 minutes.

[Zachery]

I turned the stats module OFF. As well as most of the modules, except for the news one, latest forum topics, and the show users.

If the hack requires indexes to be created, it should create them.

Or the install instructions should include info on which ones need to be created.

If people running big sites run this out of the box, it's got a huge potential to tank their whole site.

I apologize for sounding alarmist over this, but it is a huge deal when you install something like this and it takes your site off the air for 15 minutes.
Like Brian told you at vBa, he also runs a rather larger forum with a stock configuration of the script.

Latest threads could result in a big problem because of a full table scan unless you are limiting it in some way.

[mykes]

Like Brian told you at vBa, he also runs a rather larger forum with a stock configuration of the script.

Latest threads could result in a big problem because of a full table scan unless you are limiting it in some way.

OK, so how does a stock script that doesn't limit in some way the full table scans work out of the box on a rather larger forum? The probable answer is he's been hacking on php scripts that slowed his site down so he implemented the proper indexes to speed them up. When HE runs this script out of the box, he doesn't see the problem.

BTW, I'm looking at the output of iostat 1 and not seeing a full table scan happening when I load the page, with latest threads turned on, and with all the bells and whistles.

What I do see is the CPU idle% go to ZERO on all 4 (well, 2 Xeons) CPUs when vba is the site's home page. When it's not the home page, the CPUs are 75% idle, each.

Here's a pretty nifty perl script I wrote to monitor a linux system's health. It requires Term::Screen perl module installed. You may have to make your shell window taller, or hit the 'c' key while it's running to make it display less tall.

[Shack Networks]

OK I have a dual Xeon 2.4 and have been running the portal since moving from IPB to VB last year..

I have on average 200-300 memebers on the site at any time and server load has been pretty normal BUT add an extra 100 members and the serverload hits the roof and often crashes the forums out..

I remove the portal from my site the other day and lo and behold server load is down and my site is flying now with over 700 members online..

I am not dissing this product as TBH I loved it BUT I have had to compromise either getting a bigger server or removing the hack.....

The hack had to go...

This needs looking into as it is not a figment of peoples imaginations and is a real problem for people with large sites...

H

[Zachery]

OK I have a dual Xeon 2.4 and have been running the portal since moving from IPB to VB last year..

I have on average 200-300 memebers on the site at any time and server load has been pretty normal BUT add an extra 100 members and the serverload hits the roof and often crashes the forums out..

I remove the portal from my site the other day and lo and behold server load is down and my site is flying now with over 700 members online..

I am not dissing this product as TBH I loved it BUT I have had to compromise either getting a bigger server or removing the hack.....

The hack had to go...

This needs looking into as it is not a figment of peoples imaginations and is a real problem for people with large sites...

H
Shack, if you have the time, contact Brian over at vBadvanced.com in a troulbe ticket and he should be able to sort some things.

We are making advancedments in optmizing the script more :)

[Shack Networks]

Like I said m8 I love this portal and I think its a damn shame I have had to remove it as it is my favourite toy on here and as you well know there are a lot of them :)

If it can be optimized then I would add it back without question but at the moment I am faced with moving my site to a new BIGGER server or removing the hack..

I can tell you it was with a heavy heart I took the decision to remove it..

Thanks for the reply and I will head over to vbadvanced and contact Brian about it..

H

[Zachery]

Like I said m8 I love this portal and I think its a damn shame I have had to remove it as it is my favourite toy on here and as you well know there are a lot of them :)

If it can be optimized then I would add it back without question but at the moment I am faced with moving my site to a new BIGGER server or removing the hack..

I can tell you it was with a heavy heart I took the decision to remove it..

Thanks for the reply and I will head over to vbadvanced and contact Brian about it..

H
I think it comes down to abit of size things and some other issues that may or may not play a role.

Brians own forums are quite large and active, and I am his system admin, we aren't noticing any real issues with server loads on a single p4

[KW802]

Shack, if you haven't already you definitely want to submit a ticket for Brian can take a look at it. I can say first-hand that I recently did an install request of CMPS on a rather large site and the owner had similiar issues of load times; Brian went in and changed a few of the queries around and now the CMPS page comes up almost instantly (the site doesn't have a lot of graphics in their style).

[Tigga]

As they've said, there will be a few optimizations in 2.0 that should help quite a bit with larger sites. It will be at least a couple of weeks or so before that's released though, so if anyone who is having a problem would like to submit a support ticket at vba.com then I'll be glad to take a look and make any optimizations possible.