XML Question

[bondjetta]

Sorry for posting this here but it seems most appropriate.

I'm just learning XML so keep that in mind ;) This is *sort* of a template question, but more so of a coding question.

If i want to split the CSS out of my style.xml file into its own file (style.css) how do I call style.css into style.xml so that it appears when I upload the style? :ermm: I've already setup the /clientscript/vbulletin_css/ with the correct permissions already :o

So any hints/tips/etc? :) Thanks

[Zachery]

Sorry for posting this here but it seems most appropriate.

I'm just learning XML so keep that in mind ;) This is *sort* of a template question, but more so of a coding question.

If i want to split the CSS out of my style.xml file into its own file (style.css) how do I call style.css into style.xml so that it appears when I upload the style? :ermm: I've already setup the /clientscript/vbulletin_css/ with the correct permissions already :o

So any hints/tips/etc? :) Thanks
You mean you want to store the CSS as a file?:

AdminCP > vBulletin Options > Style & Language settings > Store CSS Stylesheets as Files? > Yes ;)

[bondjetta]

You mean you want to store the CSS as a file?:

AdminCP > vBulletin Options > Style & Language settings > Store CSS Stylesheets as Files? > Yes ;)
so I don't need to include a line in the xml style sheet to say that the css IS being stored externally? :D

sweeeeet...i'll try it tonight :) i thought it was more complicated (i did turn on store css as files already but wasn't sure what exactly it did)

[Zachery]

so I don't need to include a line in the xml style sheet to say that the css IS being stored externally? :D

sweeeeet...i'll try it tonight :) i thought it was more complicated (i did turn on store css as files already but wasn't sure what exactly it did)
Basicly if you want your style sheet stored externaly it needs to be enabled in the vB options.

Not all users are able to use this feature due to server restrictions, double check and see if there is a .css file for each of the styles of you board in the forums/clientscript/vbulletin_css folder.

[bondjetta]

Basicly if you want your style sheet stored externaly it needs to be enabled in the vB options.

Not all users are able to use this feature due to server restrictions, double check and see if there is a .css file for each of the styles of you board in the forums/clientscript/vbulletin_css folder.
there isn't :(

here's my theory:
I'll remake the css sheets (no biggie) on my own, store them in /clientscript/vbulletin_css/xxx.css.

HOWEVER how do i tell the new style i'm uploading which style sheets to use? this is where i thought the style.xml file should include a reference to which css sheets to call.

[Zachery]

there isn't :(

here's my theory:
I'll remake the css sheets (no biggie) on my own, store them in /clientscript/vbulletin_css/xxx.css.

HOWEVER how do i tell the new style i'm uploading which style sheets to use? this is where i thought the style.xml file should include a reference to which css sheets to call.
well first, chmod that folder to 777, then disable and renable the option ;)

[bondjetta]

well first, chmod that folder to 777, then disable and renable the option ;)
grrrr....that's my fault.

thanks Zachery! :D

[bondjetta]

Ok, i've done that, gotten the CSS out...but get this:

So i want to make a duplicate style as my default however using a new color scheme...seems easy right?

So i download the current style and style sheet, no problem. However when I go to upload the new theme the css isn't coming across. :(

Any ideas how to links the external CSS sheet to the style.xml file? this is starting to aggrevate me...i tried a few different things including just editing it after the file's uploaded and it's still not showing my "extra" CSS code... :ermm:

[Zachery]

Ok, i've done that, gotten the CSS out...but get this:

So i want to make a duplicate style as my default however using a new color scheme...seems easy right?

So i download the current style and style sheet, no problem. However when I go to upload the new theme the css isn't coming across. :(

Any ideas how to links the external CSS sheet to the style.xml file? this is starting to aggrevate me...i tried a few different things including just editing it after the file's uploaded and it's still not showing my "extra" CSS code... :ermm:
Add a new style, as a child of the main style :)

[bondjetta]

Add a new style, as a child of the main style :)
how does that add the css? i want to use a .css file and not .xml

thanks for the help Zachery, i do appreciate it :)

[Zachery]

how does that add the css? i want to use a .css file and not .xml

thanks for the help Zachery, i do appreciate it :)
You want to use the settings right? same colors and such same css, but then you want to modifiy it but leave the original intact?

It will inherit all of the parrents changes, css and templates and everything else that a style ineherits.

;) trust me

[bondjetta]

You want to use the settings right? same colors and such same css, but then you want to modifiy it but leave the original intact?

It will inherit all of the parrents changes, css and templates and everything else that a style ineherits.

;) trust me
no i want to write my own css file altogether, same structure (bbs_logo.gif, etc but more like bbs_logo_blue.gif or blue/bbs_logo.gif)

how come vB doesn't give me an option to declare my own style sheets? :( or does it and i'm missing the declaration in my style.xml file?

[Zachery]

no i want to write my own css file altogether, same structure (bbs_logo.gif, etc but more like bbs_logo_blue.gif or blue/bbs_logo.gif)

how come vB doesn't give me an option to declare my own style sheets? :( or does it and i'm missing the declaration in my style.xml file?
Its not specificly designed that way, you can if you want decalre them in the headinclude template.

[bondjetta]

Its not specificly designed that way, you can if you want decalre them in the headinclude template.
ooh this is interesting.

can you explain why it was designed that way? maybe i'm just approaching this from the wrong angle ;)

[Zachery]

ooh this is interesting.

can you explain why it was designed that way? maybe i'm just approaching this from the wrong angle ;)
Well, If you are going about it the alternet style sheet route, mostly the only people who will take advantage of it will be Mozi and FF users.

If you just need to define more classes,
AdminCP > Styles & Templates > STyle Manager > Click on Go > Custom CSS

If you really want alternet styles i suggest making a new child style and customizing it from there.

[bondjetta]

Well, If you are going about it the alternet style sheet route, mostly the only people who will take advantage of it will be Mozi and FF users.

If you just need to define more classes,
AdminCP > Styles & Templates > STyle Manager > Click on Go > Custom CSS

If you really want alternet styles i suggest making a new child style and customizing it from there.
maybe i can save some of your time ;) is there a how to or a deeper explanation of child styles? do i have to write the css IN vB's interface? that's sort of what's got me down, it's way faster for me to write my own and attach it, but perhaps not BEST if i do it that way.

Thank you for your patience Zachery, i would have flamed me by now ;)

[Zachery]

maybe i can save some of your time ;) is there a how to or a deeper explanation of child styles? do i have to write the css IN vB's interface? that's sort of what's got me down, it's way faster for me to write my own and attach it, but perhaps not BEST if i do it that way.

Thank you for your patience Zachery, i would have flamed me by now ;)I enjoy my work and if I did not, Jelsoft would'nt have hired me ;)

You can write it yourself, in some other application and copy it into the additional css box.

Basicly, before in the long long ago of vB2, styles and template mods were a pain, because either all templates could share 1 single set, or all be unquie. Now in vB3 we have a parent child system However, this has always been the case to some degree as it was in vB2, just most people never knew, and you really couldnt take advantage of it.

We have the following template setup in vB3

*Master Hidden Style*
-Default Style

Now, everything that would be done to the master style if you were to edit it (but by default you cannot, and you really shouldnt) it would get inherited into the default style, unless that template or bit of css or style var, etc.. were already customized in the child style

So If you want to have a bunch of styles use the same template set but only differ in colors and images

Default Style
- Blue Style
- Orange Style
- Red Style
-- Red and Black Style

So like i said up there, any changes made to the default style, get inherited by all childeren, unless they have that aspect already customized. :) Lets take this abit further, lets say you make a few changes to the Red Style, it will have the changes and so will the Red and Black style, if you were to then make one more change to the Red and Black style, only the red and black style gets it.

[bondjetta]

I enjoy my work and if I did not, Jelsoft would'nt have hired me ;)

You can write it yourself, in some other application and copy it into the additional css box.

Basicly, before in the long long ago of vB2, styles and template mods were a pain, because either all templates could share 1 single set, or all be unquie. Now in vB3 we have a parent child system However, this has always been the case to some degree as it was in vB2, just most people never knew, and you really couldnt take advantage of it.

We have the following template setup in vB3

*Master Hidden Style*
-Default Style

Now, everything that would be done to the master style if you were to edit it (but by default you cannot, and you really shouldnt) it would get inherited into the default style, unless that template or bit of css or style var, etc.. were already customized in the child style

So If you want to have a bunch of styles use the same template set but only differ in colors and images

Default Style
- Blue Style
- Orange Style
- Red Style
-- Red and Black Style

So like i said up there, any changes made to the default style, get inherited by all childeren, unless they have that aspect already customized. :) Lets take this abit further, lets say you make a few changes to the Red Style, it will have the changes and so will the Red and Black style, if you were to then make one more change to the Red and Black style, only the red and black style gets it.
ok i'm with you so far (THANKS) now how do i go about making a child style? do i have to write the xml or just go into Styles & Languages >> New Style and go from there? :D

I'm down with this ;) it might not be my ideal solution, but it just might be easier in the long run :D

[Zachery]

ok i'm with you so far (THANKS) now how do i go about making a child style? do i have to write the xml or just go into Styles & Languages >> New Style and go from there? :D

I'm down with this ;) it might not be my ideal solution, but it just might be easier in the long run :D
When you add a new style, there is a option to set a parrent style :)

[bondjetta]

When you add a new style, there is a option to set a parrent style :)
so now let's say my images are normally in:

/img/ss/misc/bbs_logo.gif

i want the child style to point to:

/img/ss/misc/blue/bbs_logo.gif

how would I go about that? Edit every image entry in all templates via the Find and Replace option in Templates? :)

[Zachery]

so now let's say my images are normally in:

/img/ss/misc/bbs_logo.gif

i want the child style to point to:

/img/ss/misc/blue/bbs_logo.gif

how would I go about that? Edit every image entry in all templates via the Find and Replace option in Templates? :)
Nope

AdminCP > Styles & Templates > Style Manager > Style Vars (from the drop down on the child style ) > Title Image Path

:)

[bondjetta]

Nope

AdminCP > Styles & Templates > Style Manager > Style Vars (from the drop down on the child style ) > Title Image Path

:)
:ermm: ok i'll have to play around in there for a few minutes and see if it makes sense :)

THANK YOU ZACHERY! :D If we had Rep on here i'd be giving you a billion points ;)

[Zachery]

:ermm: ok i'll have to play around in there for a few minutes and see if it makes sense :)

THANK YOU ZACHERY! :D If we had Rep on here i'd be giving you a billion points ;)
Thanks, if there is anything else you need to ask feel free :)

[bondjetta]

Thanks Zach it worked very well :D

http://www.emptythecup.com/forums/vbindex.php?styleid=8

There's a view of it if you want to see :) the new one is Zen Garden, the old one is Buddhist Temple :D

Thanks again Zachery!

[Zachery]

Thanks Zach it worked very well :D

http://www.emptythecup.com/forums/vbindex.php?styleid=8

There's a view of it if you want to see :) the new one is Zen Garden, the old one is Buddhist Temple :D

Thanks again Zachery!
Very nice :)