Lets combine funds for a Reviews CMS with business/product directory

[jshallo]

I just stumbled on Edirectory.com (http://www.edirectory.com) 's software, it seems nice from a first glance but, I don't see any listing about vbulletin integration. If this was possible and you could customize a hosted solution it might be promising for me since the hosted version was $99/mo.

[Alfa1]

Dang! $1800 purchase price plus $400 per year for updates.
Thats quite a steep price tag.

[Ramsesx]

There already are basic products available: either as TedS his Product Review Forums or as the working beta 2 of Advanced Content System. What sets ACS apart from the rest is its advanced feature set.
Commercial features are vital needs for more than a few admins, because these functions will pay their bills. In my communication with various people to chart their functionality needs, commercial functionality comes up again and again. ACS providing such functions in beta 3 makes a world of difference.
Please do not see it as superfluous bloat, because its not.
Sure, there are basic products available.
But, TedS product isn't right for my needs and ACS beta 2 isn't working for me, 3 months after purchase.
Do you have it working on your site alfa?
So, that's the reason why I said to make the product first basic and working.
Makes no sense to me to add thousand of features if the final working result isn't foreseeable.

[bigtree]

man, so disappointing waiting so long. I'm with Ramsesx. Something simple that works would be great.

Teds is right on but lacks the ability to add new products via the Vbulletin 4 Editor. I can't understand that at all. The XML import is great for those who actually get company data via XML feeds for products but in my line of business, no manufacturer lists their product in a XML, so I have to copy paste product info one by one and the editor makes this much simplier. With Teds system, you have to grab all the HTML and screw around with that.

If I use the vbulletin Editor, I can copy past hundreds in a day, no problem ( images and tables etc, just like the product website displays !) . Awesome this way!

BUT WITH With Teds, I have to input all the html code via the CP which totally sucks. Its so slow and useless. Its focused on their agenda which is part of their business. I'm interested in boutique products and reviews. Not importing thousands of amazon type reviews in hundreds of categories. Way overkill.
Again, Teds XML import is great in their eyes , wonderful for importing thousands of products ( ONLY AVAILABLE in XML) but useless for simple solutions and the boutique product reviews.

If someone improved Teds, allowing the added ability to CREATE PRODUCTS with a vb style editor via the CPadmin or via the forums, Teds would be perfect for thousands of vbulletin websites!

Something simple, more personal that works. I would gladly pay for that.

[LifesGreatestGift]

Thats too funny!
Maybe there are two different GARS sites? I can't see a legit demo or any info on GARS confirming its ready for vb4. I'm guessing its the owner of GARS) asks if we are interested but provides no link (confirmed). So we need to google GARS only to find a site with dated info and a goofy download link requesting money for what?

For those familiar with your GARS, this may be a no brainer but for those not, is it ready for a production site? From my perspective, GARS appears to be dated and unclear if it is ready?

Anyone care to enlighten the unfamiliar, I'm interested in something that works for vb4. Out of all the hype here, It appears Adrian is the real deal.

Cheers!

http://www.thevbgeek.com/showpost.php?p=35351&postcount=3
Must be a customer

Demo
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/

[Ramsesx]

http://www.thevbgeek.com/showpost.php?p=35351&postcount=3
Must be a customer

Demo
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/
Doesn't work on my site, install holds with message: The Three Stooges...
Same as on morgans alpha.

[z3r0]

Doesn't work on my site, install holds with message: The Three Stooges...
Same as on morgans alpha.

Try deleting all the code inbetween lines 295-357 in gars_admin_phrases.php while you do the install

Edit - after looking at the code again it maybe 295-355 but It only needed it for me an upgrade (not clean install) and I haven't got a test site to upgrade to try it out atm.

[Ramsesx]

Try deleting all the code inbetween lines 295-357 in gars_admin_phrases.php while you do the install

Edit - after looking at the code again it maybe 295-355 but It only needed it for me an upgrade (not clean install) and I haven't got a test site to upgrade to try it out atm.

Thanks for your support but doesn't work, if I remove until 355 it gives no message but doesn't complete the install, if remove until 357 get again the message "The Three Stooges...".
I'm upgrading, no clean install.

[z3r0]

I just tried the clean install again and that worked fine, I only did the upgrade once and from my notes that was what I needed to do to get it to complete.

If your interested in getting to upgrade working I'll download a backup of one of my 3.8 sites tomorrow and do a 4.1.11 update and find the steps I used for the gars upgrade.

[Ramsesx]

If your interested in getting to upgrade working I'll download a backup of one of my 3.8 sites tomorrow and do a 4.1.11 update and find the steps I used for the gars upgrade.
This would be fantastic and very helpful z3r0, thank you very much.

[z3r0]

No problem, I'll set one downloading and give it a go tomorrow.

It maybe worth checking your php error log if it's turned on, that's how I found the fault in the gars_admin_phrases.php when I was doing the upgrade.

[Jaynie]

http://www.thevbgeek.com/showpost.php?p=35351&postcount=3
Must be a customer

Demo
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/

Hmm, I just registered an account but no luck on that link from vbgeek. I'm not a customer of GARS but could you tell us what that link is about? Judging by the demo eightforums, it looks like gars working on vb4. Thanks.

[Alfa1]

Please continue the GARS support conversation in a dedicated thread or in the GARS social group (https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/group.php?groupid=241).

[cellarius]

I have given up on my products from vbgeek. Morgan's last post on that site was close to one year ago, and then there's another two posts since June 2010 (!). As sad as it is, and as great the geeks product's were, they are plain dead. Still recommeding it seems not a good idea.

[vijayninel]

If this is useful to anyone.. Gars forumdisplay gives a blank white page on PHP 5.3.6 and some other PHP versions as well. Turning off "GARS - Prep Forumdisplay" plugin from the plugin manager will display the normal vb forumdisplay so at least the articles can be seen.

[Webrunner]

Thanks for this great topic, i will be keeping an eye on this.

What is the progress on the different addons? Does anyone know what is going on with ChrisTERiS mod? Is it still in development?

I also stumbled upon iReviews from vbcover. I saw it was mentioned here once or twice?
Why is no one considering that mod? Am i missing something?

[Alfa1]

What is the progress on the different addons?
I have posted an update, but the GARS discussion has snowed it under.

Regarding GARS:
GARS is dead.
Even if someone would fix GARS, then its still unsupported undeveloped software from 2007.

Does anyone know what is going on with ChrisTERiS mod? Is it still in development?
We have not heard from Chris for a while. I hope this does not mean that his project has fallen through.

I also stumbled upon iReviews from vbcover. I saw it was mentioned here once or twice?
Why is no one considering that mod? Am i missing something?
iReviews is nice software. But its encoded. So you are not able to modify it or resolve issues in case such arise. While I find it perfectly understandable that developers do not want their work nulled, I simply don't want to use encoded software. iReviews does not offer all of the features requested in this thread.

[Christos Teriakis]

We have not heard from Chris for a while. I hope this does not mean that his project has fallen through.

I haven't adopt the project but I was busy with a custom Gallery mod and a custom Mobile version of my Classifieds. Since Monday I'm working to reviews mod again, but I did some database changes to minimize the amount of queries. Now the homepage has around 5 queries, the listings 1 (!!) and the review page 9. Please note that I don't count the native vB queries.

Chris

[Webrunner]

Thanks for your answers. I think I will not go for Ireview as I am used to patching stuff myself.
I guess I have to be patient a little bit more ;)

[Jaynie]

Me too webrunner, I'm still waiting on further project development. Btw Forumsmods wrote in his site that ACS Beta 3 will be released on Monday, April 2.

http://www.forumsmods.com/threads/35-Advanced-Content-Documentation/page2
http://www.forumsmods.com/threads/48-When-will-the-Beta-3

Just in case anyone missed that ;)

[z3r0]

This would be fantastic and very helpful z3r0, thank you very much.

I had a little trouble getting my 3.8 backup to update to 4.1.11 (I dread the day I need to do it for real), anyway it's done now and I manged to update gars without to many problems so I'll post the edited file in the thread at the gars forum for you to try.

[Webrunner]

Any news on any of the applications?
Deadlines are passing without any update :(

I really need a mod that does reviews in a good way but I am reluctant to buy something that is not supported in an orderly way :(

[Alfa1]

Forumsmods is adding more functions to beta-3 before releasing.

[Webrunner]

I hope it doesn't get to bloated and i hope he will optimized for speed.
That for me is more important than even more functionality.

[Ramsesx]

And I say it again, it was so promising when the Advanced Content System was released, purchased a license on January 9 and after 4 month it's still in beta and I can't use it on my site because of some bugs and no real instructions. And the promised gars importer? Seems to be ready but will be released with Beta3. And when will Beta 3 be released? In additional 3 months because there need to be included a lot of extra stuff the majority doesn't need?
Because of that extra stuff there may be more bugs and a final version far away I guess.
I'm very disappointed right now.
The priorities are just set wrong.
Why don't you make a basic full working and bug-free version like you have it on your demo site first?
Most people are only needing that basic stuff and if it's fully working people will buy it.
After you can release a pro version with all that additional extra stuff.
It's really that simple, concentrate to the basics, get more customers and make money with it than coming to a deadlock.

[Alfa1]

There is the issue that quite a lot of people are waiting for a solution and have been searching and waiting for a year since this thread started. While its very positive to see that several coders are working on something, I think its fair to say that a lot of people are not willing to wait much longer and want me to start hiring developers for this project.
So it would be good to see a release in the coming 2 weeks.

[Alfa1]

I added the following features to the list:

A store like display option.
Optional 'Buy now' button on forumdisplay for affiliate products.
Navigation treeview menu widget to display categories.

[Webrunner]

for what it is worth: i am willing to pay for a mod like this.
Something like $100 is no problem for me.

[Alfa1]

Added another feature to the list:
Excellent SEO / link structure in pages and navigation

[bigtree]

Added another feature:

Excellent SEO / link structure in pages and navigation

Great to hear this! When do you think you will be ready for a production site and where is your link to your mod or download?
Sorry, if I'm daft, I don't know where your demo is ?

Is it here?
http://www.vb-commercial.com/

[Alfa1]

The opening post contains a list of requested features. I do not develop myself. This thread is intended to either make developers aware of the demand for a reviews CMS, or to collectively hire developers to create this for us.

In recent months we have been waiting for various developers to come through. Unfortunately this does not seem to result in the release of a working & advanced reviews CMS. Its getting time to either attract a reliable party to create this solution, or to hire a party to create it.

vb-commercial is indeed one of my sites.

[Fishing620]

Alfa1,

I just found this thread because I was looking for a review site. I have written to a few other companies out there that make reviews, but do not yet have a plug in for vB, but they do have plug ins for other forum platforms which would lead me to think they might do it for vB. If they would charge we could pool our money and get it done. If that does not work then let's just go hire some programers with the specs you have created, pay the money and get this done. Have you priced this with programmers yet?
Brandon

[The Rocketeer]

Okay I have an Idea of a featured content widget with no slider or javascript. Very plain, and doesn't put extra load on to your home page load times.

How about we make a Featured Content Box type of thing like Wordpres. It will be a widget that will static images and text below with a read more link all pulled from the 3 -4 articles we want to feature. it has to be done in a way so that it doesn't load every time and cause server loads or delays.


something like this...

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=137985&d=1335271748

[bigtree]

Finally got so tired of waiting for others to climb on board here, ireviews looked the best so I just bought it.

Thanks for the link and good luck to everyone!

Cheers!

[lazytown]

Can you please post a thorough review of ireviews? Does it work with VBSEO? Thanks.

[bigtree]

Finally got so tired of waiting for others to climb on board here, ireviews looked the best so I just bought it.

Thanks for the link and good luck to everyone!

Cheers!

Can you please post a thorough review of ireviews? Does it work with VBSEO? Thanks.

Full iReview (vbcover) is: Don't waste your money on iReviews . ( http://www.vbcover.com/ireviews.php ) It was a waste of $129.99, bloated and did not work the way I expected. It needed template alteration ( okay, I can do that, but you cannot customize it to our need). It needed support code changes because it was dated, and we are not able to customize how reviews are rated in the open post. In other words, if I want to populate my content first and allow my users to comment or rate a product, I must always be forced to rate it too, otherwise it disabled the entire rating process!

This is not acceptable because it would be like a store always giving their product a 5 star. Something so simple like that cannot be disabled. After that downer, it was in the garbage.

Unfortunately, there demo is really lame. You cannot know the details until you download it and iReviews has your money. After one hour I knew it was not for us and begged for a refund. Not a chance there. No refund. You touch you pay.

To describe what I need in words: I want to be able to add products exact to what the manufacturer specs are ( unrated), with one image and then below, allow readers to rate the product or add a comment of any size.
I don't want to be forced to rate a product I add.

Here is an example of what we are looking for (without the need to sell it), we are not a store:
http://www.sweetwater.com/c542--Pro_Tools_LE_Systems

[Alfa1]

So you need the function to just have a product presentation without editor rating, but with user rating?

Anything else?

[bigtree]

So you need the function to just have a product presentation without editor rating, but with user rating?

Anything else?

Yes!

[Alfa1]

Anything else?

Yes!

ROFL!

I will add it to the feature list:

Option to choose to only have editor rating functions or only user rating functions or both.

[bigtree]

perfect.

If adding content was as easy as creating a thread, that would be ideal. Everything I do is copy/paste.

[Delazar]

I am currently working in Beta 3 version, which is planned to be the last version before gold release.
For this reason a lot of new features were added, specially paid features like pay to publish, pay to stick, pay to bump, pay for new fields and pay for a different style for listing.

GARS importer is done and will be released with ACS Beta 3.

Super. We have May and so far no Beta 3. Money paid for a beta version and now the forum is offline for 1 week. I think our money is gone or has anyone information about what's going on


Greetings from a very disgruntled customer

[Ramsesx]

Super. We have May and so far no Beta 3. Money paid for a beta version and now the forum is offline for 1 week. I think our money is gone or has anyone information about what's going on


Greetings from a very disgruntled customer

It looks like we've spent the money for nothing...

[Alfa1]

It does look like forumsmods has fallen through completely.
Never pay for a product unless its fully functional.

[Christos Teriakis]

Hello all,

Even if I'm sure that my post will "moves the water", and most probably it will takes negative comments, I dare to make this post, as I'm sure that some users will understand my point of view, and will agree with me.

First of all, I want you to know that, except coder, I'm also client just like you. I've spent a lot of money buying 10+ vB addons, and over than 100 PHP scripts. I believe that I've the biggest collection:D.

I don't know if forumsmods gone offline for ever, and I don't wish it. Maybe the coder, just felt broken, and wanted some days of relax. Happen to me too.

But if he really adopted the project and the site at all, what's the real reason for it? I believe that most of the reasons below are enought for him to get such a decision:

@Alpha1 : With all the respection to you and to your rights to ask the best value for your money, don't you think that your feature list is extremely long even for a standalone script? Have you ever wonder how many of the opther members who participated this thread, are really needing all these exotic features?
According to that list I don't think that should be someone who will gets the decision to code it for public use, but only as a custom work. Yes, I can code a mod having 100% of the requested features. But it will takes me more than 100 days which means (according to my rates for custom work), around 25,000 Euros. Are you willing to pay such amount? Or are you able to guarantee that you'll find 1000 clients to pay 250 Euros each? I don't think so.
That famous "GARS" compatibility. I wrote it in a previous post here. It can be done, but only by copying the database structure and work the mod on this structure. Why? Because the analysis of this mod is totally wrong. Have you ever find any reviews site where category "A" has rating scale 1-10, but category "B" can have rating scale 1-5 and so on? Is this normal? This is the best way to confuse your members. Everybody can accept 5 stars as best, ot 10 stars as best, but to all products. I'm nearly 100% sure that forumsmods, stoped at that point. To copy something wrong just to be able to release an importer.
Now the critical point... Lets forget my own proposal above, and lets think realistic. Even if the original post and the first ones are showing a passion to have such a mod, how many do you believe that are ready to buy it? Reading the posts an unexperiant coder maybe thinks ..."Ochhh, there are 1,000s who will buy it". Wrong. I can guarantee that there are no more 30-40. Lets say 50. 50 Sales X $50 = $2,500. Who of use will waste 100+ days of hard work for $2,500 ???????????As a last word, I'll use Alpha1's suggestion "Never pay for a product unless its fully functional" is a different way: "Never ask for new features, before you have the 10 most important ready".

As for me, I adopted the project just for this reason. Because every day a new feature was added in the lists. I prefer to adopt one month's work, than to add daily headcaches in my head.

PS: A last comment for BigTree and his bad experiance with Lionel. I had the same bad experiance with iCart and vBMultipages. But I have to admit that Lionel is doing the best (from business side view). He has a dozen of commercial mods, but none free. Even the simple ones (eg vBMultipages) he is selling it. But he comes here very often just for asking. Never to give. And by having ALL the files 100% encrypted is sure that for every custom change, you have to pay him for it, even if its something that you can do free on your own.


Thank you for reading
Chris

[Ramsesx]

On many points you're right Chris, that was the reason I asked first for a basic functional working product instead of implementing all this extra stuff only a few people may need.
And I'm sure if he would have done it this way we may have it right now.
All what I've seen on my install but especially on his test site was the proof of a great product.
He only had to make it bug free, write more instructions how to use it and the importer.
Then the sales would be way more than only 50. I would have bought at least 2 licenses.
Basically there should be a volume of > 500 sales.
But as I said, it needs more than just throwing out a non finished product without any instructions.
Don't know why he shut down his site but as I could read he was working on some custom stuff and couldn't deliver.
Maybe he expected more sales in the beginning and was confused about all this extra feature wishes he wanted to implement, don't know it...
I just can hope he can get his act together and finally present a working product.

[Christos Teriakis]

On many points you're right Chris, that was the reason I asked first for a basic functional working product instead of implementing all this extra stuff only a few people may need..

This is the right (and most fair) way for both sides. For the coder and for the Clients. By giving the basic functionality, the coder is not investing a lot of time. So it can sell it for a low price eg $30-35. That price covers for sure his work as should be many users who will buy it, just to have a simple reviews system in their site.

From that point, everything can be done right based on a fair agreement between the coder and all those clients who want something more. eg "I can add these 10 extra features" but I want $500. If the clients who want those additions are 20, then its just $25 for each one. I reasonable amount for something specific.

But even if the coder does not want to add more features, you're always free to hire another coder to add the extra functionalities. The most important is to have the main script.

By giving a list with 100 features since the first release:
1.- It will cost a lot of money
2.- It will never be finished,
3.- (...worst of all...) as it will be coded in rush, it will be full of bugs.

That's my opinion. As for forumsmods. To be honest I was following his site aftre his first release. Nothing bad at all. I was just seeing the incremental of user registrations. When, after a month, I seen that he has only 20 new members, which means 10 (at least) spam registrations and 10 real members, I understand his feeling. I bet that he hasn't more than 6-7 sales. So he spent a really long time on coding, expecting the thousands of porential clients, and finally he got nothing.

But I'm also feeling you as client. I've also payed eg for AWC Donation Pro, Subscription PRO and other mods, and I seen recently that forumcoding.com is actually not operated.

Chris

[BirdOPrey5]

This thread is getting close to seeming like price negotiation. That is not going to be allowed here.

The original post was to get a list of people willing to pledge money to get this mod created.

Please select someone to speak for the group and they can negotiate with a coder in private, via PM, email, or other means.

Please do not turn this into a negotiation or it will be locked.

[Ramsesx]

Please do not turn this into a negotiation or it will be locked.

Don't see this happen, but it's your decision.

[Jirinex]

That famous "GARS" compatibility. I wrote it in a previous post here. It can be done, but only by copying the database structure and work the mod on this structure. Why? Because the analysis of this mod is totally wrong. Have you ever find any reviews site where category "A" has rating scale 1-10, but category "B" can have rating scale 1-5 and so on? Is this normal? This is the best way to confuse your members. Everybody can accept 5 stars as best, ot 10 stars as best, but to all products. I'm nearly 100% sure that forumsmods, stoped at that point. To copy something wrong just to be able to release an importer.


This thread was started because we are a BIG bunch of people still stuck in 3.8 due to being tied with Gars. So regardless of what you think is right or wrong in that code, at least an importer/converter (tell it what you like) must appear if you like your product to be in any way sort of helpful for us in this thread. If you can't provide that, then don't waste our time, it's been too long again waiting for nothing to happen and it's getting quite a frustrating situation.

[Christos Teriakis]

No, I'm not wasting your time. I've wrote since my first post here that I don't plan to release any importer. So, I'm not saying something new now. I post my comments trying to make clear why none coder released anything 11 months now.

Chris

[Alfa1]

This project has started as a request for a CMS content type. Later on it turned out that the vbCMS is not a feasible platform for this and it doesn't look vbCMS will get a rewrite ever. So the project changed to an integrated CMS.

22 people each pledged a substantial amount to hire a coder. No coder has been selected yet, as Adrian and you came in announcing that you would release a reviews addon. I thought it fair to give you both a chance to release something and see where that leads.

The list of features is not an arbitrary list, but is the compilation of what these 22 people want.

Nonetheless, you are free to release any feature set that you think is right, and I am sure that there will be people who are interested.

Regarding GARS: you are correct about the insanity of some features, but the reality is that some of us have many thousands of GARS entries. 11.000 in my case. As you can imagine its not an option to loose that data.

You are right that its a big project. Not every coder is able or willing to do a big project. I've seen that many times before. But there are coders who do deliver such projects. Its time for that now.

[Christos Teriakis]

Regarding GARS: you are correct about the insanity of some features, but the reality is that some of us have many thousands of GARS entries. 11.000 in my case. As you can imagine its not an option to loose that data.
.

I didn't said that importer can't be done. Actually is an easy job BUT ONLY for those who where using one rating scale. eg When I was using GARS, even, as you know, there was the option to set the max rating scale, I was always using 5. So, in this case is easy. But if you've mixed rating scales, most probably an importer will mess it.

Chris

[BirdOPrey5]

I have no stake in this project from either side but if the arbitrary rating in GARS is an issue it seems like it would be easy math for an importer to convert any scale to a 5 point scale during an import.

So 3 of 10 becomes 1.5 of 5 which rounds to 2 of 5... It's not perfect but a lot better than nothing.

[Christos Teriakis]

To avoid wasting your time, I want to inform you that I'm out of this project. As BirdOPrey5 wrote, this thread became just like an auction.

I think that the best way to have real results trying to combine funds, is to make a post in Paid Request, and when you'll have a quote for it, then try again by changing the title to something like "Lets combine $xxx dollars for a Reviews CMS".

Regards
Chris

[lazytown]

I think coders are permanently damaging their reputation with thousands of clients by promising a product, having people wait a very long time, and then never delivering. It would be far far better to release a version with only the most important features and the other hundred features could be potentially for future releases if sales warrant it. I certainly don't expect even 15% of those features to be implemented in a first retail release. my 2 cents.

[Christos Teriakis]

.....with thousands of clients

I think that you're dreaming. There are no thousands of clients anymore, not for vB, not for all forum scripts, but for all php scripts platform and scope independent. There were thousands till 2008-middle 2009.[/quote]

by promising a product, having people wait a very long time, and then never delivering.

Because I'm one of them, what I've to say is that, as long I didn't got a single cent from anybody I'm not obligue to do anything. As you're trying to find out how many coders will be interest to get over this project, on the same way I'm trying to find how many potential clients there are. And unlike what you're saying I bet that there are no more than 50. Go throught the full thread which is already 11 months old. How many shown interest for it?
Another point that you must give attention (if you're fair in critic,,, i believe it...), is that there are already 2 mods in the market, plus one free. I believe that they're enought for a specific market. That's why I stopped working on it when Forumsmods released its own addon, even if I had wasted more than a month working on it.

Chris

[Alfa1]

Thousands of clients sounds like an overstatement. Though popular addons like photopost, vaulwiki, vbseo do have a high volume of sales. The demand for a reviews CMS is widely documented. Its one of the top voted requests for vbulletin. The response in this thread gives a good indication.
If you would have finished your product. Even if forumsmods would have come through, then you would have had sales.

There has been interest from coders. But its a big project and its my experience that big projects tend to fall through if 1 coder does the entire project.

[Christos Teriakis]

Thousands of clients sounds like an overstatement. Though popular addons like photopost, vaulwiki, vbseo do have a high volume of sales. The demand for a reviews CMS is widely documented. Its one of the top voted requests for vbulletin. The response in this thread gives a good indication.
If you would have finished your product. Even if forumsmods would have come through, then you would have had sales.

There has been interest from coders. But its a big project and its my experience that big projects tend to fall through if 1 coder does the entire project.

The only that I can do from my side is to give for free full copyright rights of my current code to anybody who is interest to continue developing it. I believe that I've clear and well commented code, and ofcourse I'll be beside him for any advice that maybe he/she will needs. Maybe this will be a good way to prove that I had never in mind to tease all those who were waiting this mod.

From the other side I'm doing this work for living, and this period is the worst for my country and me as citizen of this country. In addition I need to take care for my daughter too, who, after 12 years in Airlines fired from her job.

So, if anybody is interest, just contact me. And when I'm saying full rights, I mean full rights. Not even any refference to my name inside the files, not even a thank you. Actually I'll feel better knowing that someone is using it, than having it in my disk.

Chris

[lazytown]

I wasn't talking about thousands of clients for you specifically and for this specific review add-on. I'm talking about the thousands of people who may come across threads like this and see how things are handled, promises broken, etc.. When someone says they are developing something, people rely on that and put other things on hold (and wait a long time), then, after making people wait, they get absolutely nothing (or close to nothing). I wasn't even referring specifically to any one developer. It's not about money, it's about reputation (which can affect future earning ability). If you say you'll do something, in my book, you do it. If you find out you can't do it, you tell people as SOON as you know and don't leave them hanging. That's just my beliefs, not an attack on anyone specifically.

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......
That's why I stopped working on it when Forumsmods released its own addon, even if I had wasted more than a month working on it.

Chris
...Then you should have posted in this thread and told us months ago that you decided to stop working on it. Making people wait and wonder is not a good thing. That's all I'm saying. I think you're a very talented coder, I'm just expressing some frustration about the wait that I'm sure many other members have. Thank you.

[Webrunner]

The only that I can do from my side is to give for free full copyright rights of my current code to anybody who is interest to continue developing it. I believe that I've clear and well commented code, and ofcourse I'll be beside him for any advice that maybe he/she will needs. Maybe this will be a good way to prove that I had never in mind to tease all those who were waiting this mod.

From the other side I'm doing this work for living, and this period is the worst for my country and me as citizen of this country. In addition I need to take care for my daughter too, who, after 12 years in Airlines fired from her job.

So, if anybody is interest, just contact me. And when I'm saying full rights, I mean full rights. Not even any refference to my name inside the files, not even a thank you. Actually I'll feel better knowing that someone is using it, than having it in my disk.

Chris

Chris, why not finish the basics of the mod and release it to get some cash?
I am willing to pay for it if it is working OK. I don't need half of what is in the feature list in the first post, at least not right away. I think it is always a good thing to let mods develop over time. That gives bett quality...

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Another question for Chris: how far are you from a proper release?

[Christos Teriakis]

...... and release it to get some cash?
...lol.. Do you mean from donation? ... After 2 years still I haven't completed $75 :D

Another question for Chris: how far are you from a proper release?

Proper but medium in features release? 2-3 days max

Chris

[FannBlade]

After 2 years still I haven't completed $75 :D

Proper but medium in features release? 2-3 days max

Chris

Years to days seems like simple math to me. If you only have twenty member purchase it for $30...that is $600, sure that may only be 5 cents an hour :) , but those 20 members could snow ball into 200-300 then thing start looking good. Keep product updated and start adding more features then step price somewhere between $30-$200.

How many product have others purchase because of a great implantation someone is using on their own site.

Two things that bother me for add-ons.
1. Free add-ons that seem to always just fall off map with no more support. (expected for free)
2. Paid add-ons that seem to have had heyday period in 2009 and now nothing.
Scariest thing for me is implementing an add-on that admin,mods and members love but just falls off map. (probably why lot of large sites still using 3.8)

Either way support or at least the illusion of support and interest is what keeps a product viable.

Take vBulletin as an example,sure it seems like I'm constantly doing an upgrade but VB does a great job with announcements and what is on the horizon.

ChrisTERiS I have been to your site several times and have a tough time navigating site to find products...for a vB coder my perception is your vB site would be setup properly. I know it's hard to be a one man show and try to make products and keep site up to date but unforgivably enthusiasm and professional projection is also required to grow a great product. We all need a little dose of excitement every so often.

Even with just few members posting in this thread I bet it has a ton of silent members waiting to pounce on something.

Sorry for mess of rambling but trying to watch Formula 1 qualifying also.

[lazytown]

I see the same pattern over and over... Vastly unrealistic time-lines, unrealistic estimates and unrealistic promises. I'm not saying it's intentional but it's what keeps happening, and I don't mean being off by 10-20%, but being off by like 500-2000%....

[Christos Teriakis]

I see the same pattern over and over... Vastly unrealistic time-lines, unrealistic estimates and unrealistic promises. I'm not saying it's intentional but it's what keeps happening, and I don't mean being off by 10-20%, but being off by like 500-2000%....

Sorry, but do you have something against me? In everything that I'm saying you've always something negative to say. I don't think is polite. Final I'm not a criminal. I'll appreciate if you let me alone. And finally I'm not posting in random. All my posts are replies to specific questions. And finally... have you seen any estimate? He ask me how long it will takes me to finish it and I said: in 2-3 days max. Didn't said on Tuesday. I've 7 custom projects on hands now. When I'll finish them, and if I decide to waste my time with this mod, then (and only then) it will takes me 2-3 days to finish it. I don't plan to let out some thousands of real money, betting for some hundrend possible dollars.

Thank you
Chris

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ChrisTERiS I have been to your site several times and have a tough time navigating site to find products...for a vB coder my perception is your vB site would be setup properly. I know it's hard to be a one man show and try to make products and keep site up to date but unforgivably enthusiasm and professional projection is also required to grow a great product. We all need a little dose of excitement every so often.


Have you seen anywhere a buynow button? A Cart with products? No. Well, only this means that I'm a honest person. As long as I know that the reality is that I'm very busy with custom works, and thus I'll be unable to support well my clients, I turned it off.
But my forums for my current clients is working. Right? My response time is very good.

So what you prefer? To find a nice site, with a nicer shop system open, and when you'll pay you money which most probably are coming from your hard work, you'll find that nothing except the download links works? Have you visited forumcoding.com? It has everything and the shop is open. But just read the forums and you'll understand how "soon" you'll get a reply in case that you want support. Forumsmods.com which has release a review addon. He got the money and 2 weeks now they're ...upgrading the system.

Sorry I don't like to do it. When I'll be ready to support my clients, then I'll open my shop. Till then no orders accepting.

Chris

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....sure that may only be 5 cents an hour :)
..... especially if you compare those 5 X 8 = 40c with 250 Euros which is my daily rate. If I haven't custom work on hands, yes instead of nothing I had to work on it. But as I said before I've currently 7 projects opens. Only an idiot will drop them for some cents.

I know that I sound rude but this is the reality worldwide. Everybody of us (I believe you too), we're giving attention to the jobs with the higher income. Or I'm wrong?

[lazytown]

Christeris,

No I'm not attacking you personally.. I've only stated my opinions on time line estimates in general. People are responsible for what they say and do and the reputation they create. I haven't said a nasty word, and I don't know if there is a language barrier. When someone says 2-3 days, I don't think people think that means it's going to be after they finish all their other 7 projects, which means it could easily be 6 months, 12 months or more, who in the world knows. I'm glad you cleared that up for everyone to see a perfect example of what I'm talking about and how things get miscommunicated.

This is not an attack on you. I have had to give estimates myself in the past and have learned a LONG time ago that my gut reaction is usually WAY less that it will really take -- I have learned through experience to increase my estimate on how long I think it will take by 50 to 100%. Many developers are ridiculously overly optimistic on how quickly they can get things done. I stand by my statement that I do see the same mistakes over and over with estimates -- that's my honest opinion and I think people should get used to this reality. I also think open honest and frequent communication is essential. If a project is dropped, people should be told as soon as possible. I don't think I'm the only one with this opinion, especially one who has been around as long as I have. Again, I don't have a problem with you, so please don't take the attacks personally. You don't have to defend every comment I make, many of them are general statements about development in general and not targeted specifically towards you. I, for one, am glad you are a vbulletin developer. As I've stated, you are a talented coder.....

[FannBlade]

I too wasn't attacking you. You were have been on this topic from day one and think you haven't gotten a fair shake here.
The way it read was you have 2yrs in it and would only take 2-3 more days to finish it.

As to your site I personally would like to see more on the Info pages that include some screen shots and descriptions.

[Badshah93]

Well i have started making Reviews Mod for vB 4.x. (already written 800 lines of code). My mod has its own section and category like vBCms has. (i have not integrated with forums like other have done in past).

Category and Sections (backened) pages are done, today will be doing custom fields part.

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0585hxu9e

Will release two version of this mod (Free here and Pro on My site)

[Boofo]

Here we go again. :rolleyes:

[FannBlade]

keep them updates coming.

[Webrunner]

@Chris: with cash i mean sales, not donations.
If the mod is working fine and has at least some more then the free review mod i am willing to pay for it. (as long as i know that you have the time to support it and develop it, but i know understand that that is exactly the problem)

Maybe you should try to team up with some other codes, like dbtech did.

[Christos Teriakis]

As to your site I personally would like to see more on the Info pages that include some screen shots and descriptions.

Maybe difficult to believe it, but I've started building my site. And as you can see there (sorry but currently appears only the photo in homepage), when I'll finish it (hopefully on Wed), I'll try to finish the reviews. But as I said, with no exotic feataures. Tomorrow you can read in my site a list of fetaures that it will has.

Chris

[bigtree]

I've been waiting for the next few days for half a year lol. Simple is perfect for me and I have a feeling, a lot of other people too..

looking forward to this indeed!

[Christos Teriakis]

I've been waiting for the next few days for half a year lol. Simple is perfect for me and I have a feeling, a lot of other people too..

looking forward to this indeed!

The good point for you is that you'll ger a free license. I can feel your pain with the money that you wasted. The same applies to all others who bought the reviews from Forumsmods.

Chris

[lazytown]

Personally I think talk is cheep.. Changing the graphics and descriptions are cheap.. What everyone is a waiting for is the meat and potatoes... Where's the beef.... When members see that, I promise there will be TONS of praise, including from me.

[Christos Teriakis]

Personally I think talk it cheep.. Changing the graphics and descriptions are cheap.. What everyone is a waiting for is the meat and potatoes... Where's the beef.... When members see that, I promise there will be TONS of praise, including from me.

Sorry but for you there are no potatoes, much more beef. Hope that you got my meaning.

Chris

[bigtree]

The good point for you is that you'll ger a free license. I can feel your pain with the money that you wasted. The same applies to all others who bought the reviews from Forumsmods.

Chris

Well how cool is that!

I've taken up the ireviews issue with paypal so they are looking into it for me. In the mean time, ireviews removed the conversation I had with them over why I am unable to use this and them admitting it cannot be modified, they have locked my profile to their product.
What ever happened to good business practice: if someone isn't happy I would always try to resolve a dispute amicably and if that doesn't work, I would happily refund something that wasn't right for someone.

Looking forward to this Chris, :up:

[lazytown]

Sorry but for you there are no potatoes, much more beef. Hope that you got my meaning.

Chris

No Chris, I don't get the meaning. How old is this thread? Simply put, actions speak louder than words.. So I'm not putting anyone down, just waiting for the actions.. I'm saying when people see the actual product/actions, then that's what will matter. I've been here for a LONG LONG time.. I know you have the skills to actually put something together. I don't know how many times I have to say you're a talented coder.. Talented coders are often not good salsemen and often not good customer support people. I've never quite seen such a fiasco as this whole reviews product issue at vbulletin.org (this is not just about you).

FYI, I was one of the first purchasers of forummods review CMS once there was an actual installable product. Even if yours came out later, I still would have bought it because I believe in supporting actual development.

[Christos Teriakis]

FYI, I was one of the first purchasers of forummods review CMS once there was an actual installable product. Even if yours came out later, I still would have bought it because I believe in supporting actual development.

As I said, NOBODY who paid for Forumsmods's Review system, will pay again. Sure, I do agree, that I'm not good salesman, and I'll never be. Be sure that in my age I've acceptet and know very well my positive and negative points. What I can do well and what not. But from the other side, I can understand the disappointment that felt someone after paying for something and then realized that for some reason (any reason), his money gone for nothing. Olnly a few lucky persons are finding the money as a prize from lotto. All others, we're working hard to get them. For me costs nothing to give some licenses for free comparing with the value of $$ that you (in general) have paid.

Chris

[The Rocketeer]

I wanted to propose something, I know a lot of people here are wanting a slider, but instead or in addition to working on a slider, why not also work on something that will pull x number of articles from x category. currently no such Widget / Plugin exists for vbulletin and it could be a great addon for the cms. Something similar to a Editors Picks. Improving the code on something like this - https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=2329514#post2329514

[Boofo]

As I said, NOBODY who paid for Forumsmods's Review system, will pay again. Sure, I do agree, that I'm not good salesman, and I'll never be. Be sure that in my age I've acceptet and know very well my positive and negative points. What I can do well and what not. But from the other side, I can understand the disappointment that felt someone after paying for something and then realized that for some reason (any reason), his money gone for nothing. Olnly a few lucky persons are finding the money as a prize from lotto. All others, we're working hard to get them. For me costs nothing to give some licenses for free comparing with the value of $$ that you (in general) have paid.

Chris

But that is a good way to draw in more customers which will pay off far better in the end, huh? ;)

[Badshah93]

Here we go again. :rolleyes:

lol.. i will release my review mod for sure. (maybe in 20 days time as i have other custom work also)
here is sneakpeak of New Listing Page..

http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/watch/clhDqFET2

14 Different Fields can created (including Map)

[Alfa1]

I wanted to propose something, I know a lot of people here are wanting a slider, but instead or in addition to working on a slider, why not also work on something that will pull x number of articles from x category. currently no such Widget / Plugin exists for vbulletin and it could be a great addon for the cms. Something similar to a Editors Picks. Improving the code on something like this - https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=2329514#post2329514
Its easier to create a new CMS than to have a functional reviews content type in vbCMS. There are too many problems with the vbCMS, including major SEO problems. Its important that reviews score well in Google. Especially if you want to monetize reviews.
Therefore this thread is not about vbCMS.

[Jirinex]

We decided to give up on vBulletin. We are going to venture with new problems onto IPB. At least IP.Content looks powerful and easy enough to create your own stuff. Since it looks we are going to have a lot of manual work with the reviews.. well lets do it to a different platform.

Alfa1 thanks for chasing this so long and good luck in the future.

[The Rocketeer]

Its easier to create a new CMS than to have a functional reviews content type in vbCMS. There are too many problems with the vbCMS, including major SEO problems. Its important that reviews score well in Google. Especially if you want to monetize reviews.
Therefore this thread is not about vbCMS.


I see. Yes Of course, There are too many problems with the vBCMS indeen. We have been using it on one of our forums for the past 2 years and it barely meets the CMS requirements, opposed to something like wordpress, SEO is still a issue for those that dont use vBSEO and even then you have issues. But I wonder by the time there is a full fledged CMS alternate to vBCMS it would seem that they have already moved on to vB5. You are right I think I might be on the wrong thread entirely, i could swear i saw an exact same thread last year around here somewhere that was asking to combine funds to hire someone to make a slider. :erm:

Well I guess I will have to seek my CMS improvement requirements else where, at least until you guys come up with the alternate "new" CMS. Good Luck :up:

[Alfa1]

You are right I think I might be on the wrong thread entirely, i could swear i saw an exact same thread last year around here somewhere that was asking to combine funds to hire someone to make a slider.
Yes, there was such a thread. That ended with the release of several free and commercial sliders.

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Alfa1 thanks for chasing this so long and good luck in the future.
It will be much much easier getting reviews in IP.Content. The CMS lends itself much better for it. There already is a database and custom content type system. I have even considered to use IP.Converge to tie IP.Content to vbulletin and then add a reviews content type to IP.Content.

Anyway, see you at IPB.

[lazytown]

Does anyone know if forumsmods.com will ever be back? It says it will be, but who knows? I know it had the same message before (like 5 months ago) and did eventually come back.. I'm just wondering if I should try to initiate a paypal complaint/refund request -- if that's even possible after several months.

[Ramsesx]

Asked this on his feedback form in his forum but yet haven't received an answer. To keep the thread clean from this I opened a group on vb.com
https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/group.php?groupid=963

[bigtree]

This entire thread is one big tease. I hate to be a downer but I think we've all about had it.

[Preech]

I haven't had any problems with the ForumsMod release. I am using it. I'm working on a custom music mod for my site that will use the review system as well.

[lazytown]

I haven't had any problems with the ForumsMod release. I am using it. I'm working on a custom music mod for my site that will use the review system as well.

Have you tried it with 4.2?

[bigtree]

This entire thread is one big tease. I hate to be a downer but I think we've all about had it.

Well, looks like we're back to nothing happening. So disappointing:down:.

[Preech]

Have you tried it with 4.2?

Still working with no problems.

[Phrost]

Can someone with a bit of free time compile a list of post-GARS review products, both working and in development?

[Fishing620]

Hi All
I have been using VB for a long time now and like everyone else the lack of a Review Mod has for lack of a better word sucked. I've given up building one that is totally integrated and moved to finding a really good stand alone and backward integrating into VB so at least the long in is universal. With the log in being passed and being able to customize the header and footer that is good enough for me. I've done the same sort of thing for a good eCommerce solution and it's worked fine. You can check out my fishing site (http://www.TidalFish.com) to see what I have done in the way of mods and integration.

In regards to Reviews I picked an application made by Crowd Vox (http://crowdvox.com/). It's the most robust and customizable php Review script I have found. I am integrating the log in with vB and will have it done in three weeks time at the most. If anyone is interested in chipping in to have the mod to make it work please contact me. Brandon at Tidal Fish dot com. If you want to wait to see what it looks like once I have it stood up that is cool as well.

It's not the absolute perfect solution, but as long as it's a seamless customer experience with a robust back end that is what matters for me.
Thanks
Brandon

[Alfa1]

Crowd Fox looks good, but the problem I have with it is that it does not show up in 'whats new', so users will not see new reviews and it stays largely unused.

[Athena1984]

lol.. i will release my review mod for sure. (maybe in 20 days time as i have other custom work also)
here is sneakpeak of New Listing Page..

http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/watch/clhDqFET2

14 Different Fields can created (including Map)

This looks interesting. I have been looking for a solution for the past few weeks.

[Fishing620]

Alfa1
It's possible that updates in the reviews could get put into the What's New stream. Do your users use the What's New a lot?

[Alfa1]

Currently I have no reason to start using vb4. My site is still on vb3 and its possible that I will never use vb4, as vb5 is around the corner and who knows what IPB and XF will come up with.

But to answer your question: If reviews and review comments would not turn up into the whats new function, the activity stream, etc, then reviews will not get used or noticed.
For example: Only a few of my 120.000 members use photepost, blog, social groups. Simply because the content never reaches my members. Its hidden away.

[HobbyStiller]

If anyone decides to go ahead with combining funds for replacement CMS as discussed give me a PM. I'll go in.

[daveaite]

We are willing to take on this project. Its massive, and not quite part of our strategy, but see here:

http://vbsocial.com/custom-mods

[slinky]

It looks OK. But for the price they are asking, semi encrypted, add-ons for some basic stuff, overall cost is insane. I'd rather use a solid wordpress reviews plugin or theme (some totally rock) and not even bother with this. Right now I have wordpress integrated with some of my sites which allows users with an account (registering at VB or WP) who can post reviews as they wish. That's what I'm going to do next.

Regarding CMS, it's the same thing. I've given up on VB, won't wait 6 months to see if it's even halfway decent when Wordpress is miles ahead, standardized, mature and has the benefit of much more flexibility. Disappointing that both don't run under the same engine but having the same username can give you flexibility to have links to user's content on profile pages in both directions.

[muhakeme]

I can also $ 200

[Ramsesx]

Just a short notice because some of you may find it useful, Forums Mods (http://www.forumsmods.com) went online again.

[Badshah93]

Sneak Peak Of My Review Mod (User Reviews) Page.

vFcoders - vBReviews is as big as vBCMS and it has every feature which is listed in first post of this thread.
Will release free version by end of this month here in vbulletin.org and pro version in vfcoders.

Regards
Aayush

[tpearl5]

Wow, that looks really good Aayush - any change you will make an importer for vba Dynamics?

[Badshah93]

Wow, that looks really good Aayush - any change you will make an importer for vba Dynamics?

can't say right now, but i will make importer for gars.

[ChangeFive]

Sneak Peak Of My Review Mod (User Reviews) Page.

vFcoders - vBReviews is as big as vBCMS and it has every feature which is listed in first post of this thread.
Will release free version by end of this month here in vbulletin.org and pro version in vfcoders.


Regards
Aayush

Looking good! :up:

[Bellinis]

Sneak Peak Of My Review Mod (User Reviews) Page.


Looking good, keep up the good work!

[viper357]

Sneak Peak Of My Review Mod (User Reviews) Page.

vFcoders - vBReviews is as big as vBCMS and it has every feature which is listed in first post of this thread.
Will release free version by end of this month here in vbulletin.org and pro version in vfcoders.


Regards
AayushFor vb 3.8.5?:)

[Badshah93]

For vb 3.8.5?:)

vB 4.x only.

[Alfa1]

Too bad. There is no sense in upgrading to vb4 with vb5 around the corner.

[Badshah93]

Too bad. There is no sense in upgrading to vb4 with vb5 around the corner.

will upgraded it for vb5 when it is released, but i won't do it for vb3. In keeping vB5 mind, i am using jquery for most of javascript functions otherwise i am very good in YUI.

Review is a standalone script (i mean it doesn't uses too many hooks) so only template changes will be required for vB5.

[Ramsesx]

Too bad. There is no sense in upgrading to vb4 with vb5 around the
ner.
Doesn't makes much sense to request a solution for vB4 and switch back to vB3 now...
Especially there is an existing solution for vB3.
will upgraded it for vb5 when it is released, but i won't do it for vb3. In keeping vB5 mind, i am using jquery for most of javascript functions otherwise i am very good in YUI.

Review is a standalone script (i mean it doesn't uses too many hooks) so only template changes will be required for vB5.
Is the given time frame still valid? (end of month)

[Alfa1]

GARS has been dead for many years, and its not compatible with vb3.8.7 and current server software. I still run it, but with issues. It would make a lot of sense to switch to another solution.

It simply makes no sense to me to update to vb4 all my 110 addons, many of which are custom coded, invest a significant amount of time and money to do so, only to update to vb5 months later. But thats from my standpoint. I can fully appreciate that developers see no point in developing for vb3, or even vb4 with vb5 around the corner.

[viper357]

But not everyone is going to upgrade to vb4 or vb5 or vb6. A lot of us are going to remain on vb3. But anyway, it doesn't matter, I've decided to buy reviewpost for $89. They support vb3 :up::up::up:

[lazytown]

Reviewpost is very ugly.. I'd be quite happy with vb4 version that also works with vb5.. asking for a vb3 version is like asking for windows 98 software.

[viper357]

asking for a vb3 version is like asking for windows 98 software.Agreed, but I know of a good few forums that I frequent that have in excess of a few million posts that are still running as low as 3.6, but anyway, it's a pointless argument, lets move on.

[SilverBoy]

No news about forummods or Badshah93?
Until now we have only vbcover product in the market, but I can't use coded products in my site.

[TheComputerGuy]

Reviewpost is very ugly.. I'd be quite happy with vb4 version that also works with vb5.. asking for a vb3 version is like asking for windows 98 software.

No it's not. You obviously don't run large forums, or depend on them for your livelihood.


I'm looking for a 3.8 alternative...and have money to put down to get it done.

[lazytown]

No it's not. You obviously don't run large forums, or depend on them for your livelihood.


I'm looking for a 3.8 alternative...and have money to put down to get it done.

You're mistaken -- your forum is an order of magnitude smaller than ones I manage. I stand by my comment that reviewpost is ugly as heck and totally outdated looking.. I don't think it's been updated feature or style-wise in years.. If it was, I would have used it a long long time ago. It's a viable option for a vb 3.x board that has no other alternative. There are much better free options right now for 4.x here at vb.org, and some paid options too.

Why all the sudden interest by photopost/reviewpost 'users?' Your gun board has like 30 reviews total in the past 2 years, which is like 0.00001% of your number of posts... Doesn't seem like a very successful investment (and most of the reviews are totally empty without activity). You already have it installed on your 'huge' forum, so why are you arguing you have money to put down for a product? Let's be honest here folks and not try to use this thread for advertising/shilling...

[Phrost]

Sneak Peak Of My Review Mod (User Reviews) Page.

vFcoders - vBReviews is as big as vBCMS and it has every feature which is listed in first post of this thread.
Will release free version by end of this month here in vbulletin.org and pro version in vfcoders.


Regards
Aayush

So, how'd this go?

[COBRAws]

I am willing to put in some money.

[SilverBoy]

no news until now !!

all coders which made announcements about their reviews mod, suddenly disappear !!

are all of that mods considered dead?

[FannBlade]

Must be a hard mod to create.
Maybe it will be easier on VB5.

[Alfa1]

I have my eyes set on vb5. If vb5 will be good enough then I will need a reviews full blown content type created. Its currently not known if this can be created for vb5.0 or if we need to wait for the vb5 version that supports the CMS.

I am communicating with senior developers about this. If no one will deliver the needed functionality as commercially available software, then I will have this coded.

It is indeed a big expensive project, but with multiple investors its doable.
Anyone who wants to be part of this by investing in the project, should let me know.

[SilverBoy]

Alfa1, I'm vb customers since v1.1.3 days, and from my experience, even if the vb5 will be good enough we have to wait about a year to get it stable and full supported from the coders to update their products.

So we want product to use it in this year while we testing vb5 and get all our product updated.

[Alfa1]

Well, I can say with certainty that I will not use vb4 on my big board ever. I will either jump straight from vb3 to vb5 or if vb5 will be a let down then I will abandon vbulletin altogether.
As soon as vb5 is solid enough, development will start on rewriting all my addons and producing various functionality I need.

[SilverBoy]

right, but note that not all users can wait until vb5 released and then waiting months to be solid !!
I have a board with about 750k members running on vb3.8.x yet, but I bought the vb4 suite from the first days (when they gave a discount) but never running it yet because the main thing I want in it is the CMS.
But after long researches I decide to hire some one to do what I need, but unfortunately I don't find the right person, and get a bad experience when dealing with fraud coder (one of vb.com support team) and he get the money without give me any thing.
I thought after this to stop searching for coder, and there was no any news about vb5, but I get one and working with him in these days and I don't mind if they release vb5 tomorrow, because I need to launch my news part, and if vb5 was really good and all my favorite mods upgraded I will invest to upgrade my special mods, but sorry I'll not freeze my life waiting vb5.

So if any one of all reviews product that in development stage right now released and was do what I want I will buy it for sure.

[tpearl5]

When all 'in progress' features are finished.
Text = Implemented
Text = In Progress
Text = Not Implemented
Text= Not Implemented (Next tasks to be implemented)
Reviews should have different sections, so you could for example have sections for movie reviews, restaurant reviews and product reviews.
permissions per section
The overview of reviews of each section, should allow for different display options, to be set by the admin.
A review can be in multiple categories/sections.
Reviews should have:
Author ratings, with pretty AJAX stars, bars and other pretty rating scales.
Member ratings
Combined rating averages.
Rating value should have an alt text. For example: if you choose to have ratings with 1 - 5 stars, then hovering over a 5 star rating could state 'excellent', while hovering over a 1 star rating could stat
Admins should be able to define rating questions and custom fields.
Custom fields should allow:
1. fields that work like tags. i.e. clicking on the word 'spaghetti' in a custom field would lead to all restaurants that serve spaghetti.
2. fields with AJAX autofill functions.
3. single line text fields
4. multiple line text fields
5. mandatory fields
6. tickbox fields
7. payment methods icons
Google maps integration.
Product video playing inline (youtube, vimeo, etc)
Amazon.com & other major affiliate network integration (automatically pull prices from Clickbank, Commission Junction and Amazon and add affiliateID to purchase link)
Automatic population of fields from amazon/other affiliate networks by ISBN or productID: image, product title, author, description, product details(up to weight)
Allow paid listing trough subscriptions and paid expanded listings. When a user pays for an expanded listing more custom fields become visible. For example: url, extended description, products & prices, offers, photos, Google maps, logo, etc.
A 'featured' widget that shows x companies. Companies can buy a listing in this widget.
Allow online and offline payments.
Allow users to claim listings. (for example: a restaurant owner can claim the listing for his restaurant and buy features for it)
When users claim listings or when listing owners buy expanded listings, first then let them agree to T&C.
After the user has agreed to it, also send a notification by email that they have agreed to the T&C.
Setting to moderate all edits & content posted by listing owners. (to avoid spam & unwanted content)
Allow users to post feedback to reviewed company. (visible in the listing, but separated from normal comments)
If the listing is claimed, then send this feedback to the owner. (email/pm) This feature can be bought by the listing owner.
Permission setting to hide comments to listing owner.
Permission setting to hide listings not owned by user.
Ability to compare prices of all vendors that sell product X
Summary charts for all restaurants that serve Y. i.e. a table that lists those restaurant, with the data from custom fields, as the admin defines.
Search for restaurants that have specific data in custom fields X, Y and Z.
Use rich snippetshttps://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/09/3.gif (http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=146645) so that Google will show reviews & ratings
Reviews should be loaded with interactive AJAX/jquery functions.
CkEditor for users and admin side
Infractions & moderation tools
Reputation
CMS widgets
New entries & comments in 'What's New'
Searchable with vb search engine / Sphinx
Subscribe to entry
Tags
Usergroup permissions
Use of vb attachment system
vb postbit is shown
vb avatar is shown
profiles link to vb profile
design can be integrated
GARS importer

I'm curious how much of this is completed and in the current release?

[Alfa1]

I think the green is still whats implemented.
Unfortunately I am not seeing any activity on the forumsmods website.

[ForumsMods]

Advanced Content System 4.0 Beta 4 will be available for download very soon.

Changes since ACS Beta 3:
Added Categories for Custom Fields
Added Mass Move for Custom Fields
Added Terms Cloner
Added Templates Cloner
Added Ratings Cloner
Added Modules Cloner
Added Types Cloner
Now you can select multiple fields categoriesin types page
Now you can select forums in types page
Added Article by Default
Added Movie by Default
Added Review by Default
Added Tutorial by Default
Added Tv Show by Default
Added Product by Default
Added Game by Default
Added Property by Default
Added Hotel by Default
Added Restaurant by Default
Added Person by Default
Added Place by Default
Added Recipe by Default
Added Rich Snippets for templates
Added Custom Fields for Replies per Type
Added Option to display listings in different categories
New Design for New Thread page
New Design for Show Thread page
Added Carrousel for Attachments
Added Google Maps Module
Added Comprare Module
Added Video Custom Field
Added new Module to display single field
Added paid listing (user pays to post)
Added GARS Importer (same database)
Added GARS XML Importer
Added Custom SEO URLs for categories

[vijayninel]

Jolly good ... When is the stable release expected. ? :)

[SilverBoy]

give us the real date for release your product forummods.
sorry but all of you (forummods and Badshah93) give us premisses without getting any thing actually from both of you !!
vb5 knocking the doors, and it is not so promise for me, even when they ignored CMS to late release (maybe one month may be one year after the release of vb5).
so I'm interesting in both of your products, but I'm afraid from buying yours and suddenly you disappear again forummods.

[lazytown]

vb5 is a disaster right now. I'm looking forward to forumsmods new version, hopefully he is working on bug fixes as well.

[John Lester]

Wow this looks like it's going to rock :)

[SilverBoy]

forummods, I wish you can add ability to show realted items in the review page, I want it for Books reviews, and want to show similar books like this (by tag)

[SilverBoy]

What happened Forummods? your site closed since your announcement about the new beta !!
Also Badshah93 didn't show any serious results !!

[SilverBoy]

no updates !!

[iTypeR]

Also Badshah93 didn't show any serious results !!

He left one of my projects half finished and has ignored all contact for months on skype, email, etc ... no surprise there.

[SilverBoy]

He left one of my projects half finished and has ignored all contact for months on skype, email, etc ... no surprise there.

he did something similar with me, I gave him a project on elance, and when I ask him about the work he always say he will finish in time (he request a month for doing the project), when the time was close to finish he said he will not do project needs editing files !! (we all know the project that I want must have edits on files) and he will not do any projects until finishing his reviews product !! but he didn't give any updates here or anywhere about his reviews product, and as I see he did new projects on elance !! very strange !!

[SilverBoy]

This thread and all of the three mods announced about them here considered dead !!

Thank you
Forumomds
Badshah93
ChrisTERiS

For wasting our time witting for non arrived mods !!

[Christos Teriakis]

This thread and all of the three mods announced about them here considered dead !!

Thank you
Forumomds
Badshah93
ChrisTERiS

For wasting our time witting for non arrived mods !!

If you wasted your time just waiting for something, what I can say for wasting my time (more than a month) for coding it? If you like the fair play, then try to count how many times, from my first post till my last post, the feature list has been changed. How many features have added to that list. That's the reason that I adopt this project as I found it a time waster. What do you think? That I'm idiot to work in a project for more than a month and then kick it off? No, I'm not.

You can't say that someone "cheated" you as long as there are proofs that at the time being, he was really working on what he was saying. And this is something that I can prove by installing the addon with the features that I've finished.

Chris

[Alfa1]

If more feature requests are added, then this does not necessarily mean that you would need to implement those. I'm sure that many would find your addon interesting.

If vbulletin 4 would have a future, then I would have further pursued this project. I still need reviews. But not for vbulletin 4.

[SilverBoy]

Chris my message was not personal attack over you, but the second two developer just give us promises without actions !! specially forummods who sell his not worked beta mod and closed his site and hide !! sham on him !!

Alfa1, all of us dreaming with great reviews mod for vb5, but for me I'll don't work with vb5 until it will stable product, don't forget vb4 take 3 years to be good one, so the priority now is to find great review mod like JReviews for vb4 because the most of vb license holders work with it or with vb3 not vb5.

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Badshah93 left one of my project in the end of it's time because he said he want to concentrate on his reviews system, I think he didn't code any line in my project and only wasting my time for nothing, and in other hand he didn't release his reviews mod until now (more than 3 months now).

[Christos Teriakis]

Talking just for my side, what I've to say is that after finishing my site, I'll bring my reviews addon in life as is now, but in membership plans where it will costs almost nothing. If I see that there is interest for it, I'll upgrade it with new features. That's the only that I can do at this moment. I've coded many mods that I never brought in life. One day it came to my mind to put all my mods in one place, when I realized that I've 29 full addons (without counting the widgets), plus another 8 that I gave to other coders. It's pitty to have them sitting on my HD.

Chris

[SilverBoy]

Chris, I always respect your work, but your problem is the Mediterranean mentality and nervous, that we all have (I'm from Libya), and your releasing great work and then remove it just because one of annoying people harming you and then starting insulted conversations, that all make bad indication about your personality, so try to stay calm, and support your work to show it is power and let everyone shut there moths.

Any body from the people who bought forummods buggy beta reviews mod catch him lately?

[motorcycletalk]

Did you guys ever come up with a solution?

[Christos Teriakis]

but your problem is the Mediterranean mentality and nervous
:D:):rolleyes::p

[SilverBoy]

Did you guys ever come up with a solution?

For me if I get good budget I will hire coder to make review system for me based on vBCMS articles, not like other addons wich works on forums, and because I don't use GARS so things maybe go smoothly, but if I don't get enough budget I will go to iReview by vbcover, which is not good choice for me because of encryption, but it is what we have on the market.

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:D:):rolleyes::p

Am I wrong my neighbor? :D

[Christos Teriakis]

Am I wrong my neighbor? :D

You know that you're not wrong, that's why your wrote it:D

[tpearl5]

I'm revisiting this thread after doing some more thinking on how crazy it is that there isn't a good clean vBulletin product/review system.

I'm curious if any of you have seen the product system that is built in to the Huddler platform. It's kind of beautiful. Here's an example of it in action: http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-hd-650-headphones

It has every feature that I could ever want built in, including related products, "members also have", affiliate links via API's, and member reviews. The only thing I don't see is a comparison engine.

Too bad you can't just purchase the Huddler platform and use it in the vBulletin fashion...

[Ramsesx]

Too bad you can't just purchase the Huddler platform and use it in the vBulletin fashion...

Yes, it looks very nice John.

Now, after two years since thread creation and more or less zero results how about collecting some money to just upgrade gars to vB4?

[SilverBoy]

For me I left this continues loop, and bought iReviews (from vbcover) actually I didn't install it yet, and wish it will give me what I want.

But if you think (all of GARS users) it is better than iReviews, please give me the strong points of the GARS.

Actually, I'm ready to give money to do new product, but I wish it will use vBCMS (as new type) not forums as GARS and iReviews.

[tpearl5]

Yes, it looks very nice John.

Now, after two years since thread creation and more or less zero results how about collecting some money to just upgrade gars to vB4?

I don't think everyone wants to use gars. It looks like it would require a rewrite anyway. The best option in this case would be to have a gars importer.

For me I left this continues loop, and bought iReviews (from vbcover) actually I didn't install it yet, and wish it will give me what I want.

But if you think (all of GARS users) it is better than iReviews, please give me the strong points of the GARS.

Actually, I'm ready to give money to do new product, but I wish it will use vBCMS (as new type) not forums as GARS and iReviews.

The vbCMS is just terrible in every aspect, and if I did it over again I would have used wordpress with a bridge mod. I'm pretty sure most would agree and not want to use it for anything.

Whatever forumsmods was doing looked very promising, but unfortunately that project looks to be somewhat abandoned at this point.

[SilverBoy]

I know vBCMS is terrible, but can be fixed.
I'm trying to fix my copy to suits my needs, wish me a good luck in that :).

[Christos Teriakis]

I know vBCMS is terrible, but can be fixed.
I'm trying to fix my copy to suits my needs, wish me a good luck in that :).

GOODLUCK !!!........ Even in case that you'll not succeed 100%, your try is worth of all. I never studied programming. But I was trying... searching... testing... kicking the wall when something was not working, but I never gave up.... Be sure that some day you'll remember my words. Go ahead and trust yourself.

[SilverBoy]

Thank you my neighbor :)
Actually I'm computer engineer, but unfortunately I left the programming from 10 years !!, so the plugin system and hooks and vb functions are new world for me, but I'm trying :)
Thanks again.

[Christos Teriakis]

Well.... if everything goes well, I'll release SL (SlimLine) Reviews by tomorrow night. For those who have seen my SL Classifieds, they'll find the same simple interface, with most of the features that an average admin needs for his community.

If you expect to find different rating questions as my original (unfinished) Reviews mod, sorry but you'll be disappointed. But as I seen almost 9/10 of sites want to review specific things: eg games, books, autos etc. In this case common rating questions for all categories are ok for them.

And as a final notice. There is an old saying in my country: "Half is much better than nothing".

Chris

[interfx]

Well.... if everything goes well, I'll release SL (SlimLine) Reviews by tomorrow night. For those who have seen my SL Classifieds, they'll find the same simple interface, with most of the features that an average admin needs for his community.

If you expect to find different rating questions as my original (unfinished) Reviews mod, sorry but you'll be disappointed. But as I seen almost 9/10 of sites want to review specific things: eg games, books, autos etc. In this case common rating questions for all categories are ok for them.

And as a final notice. There is an old saying in my country: "Half is much better than nothing".

Chris

Update?

[Christos Teriakis]

<a href="http://www.christeris.net/dev42/reviews.php?do=viewreview&reviewid=1" target="_blank">http://www.christeris.net/dev42/revi...iew&reviewid=1</a>
Please note that the demo is setup for game reviews. All data on the right side are extra fields so can be changes. The same for rating questions.

[Ramsesx]

Looks very cool.

[Christos Teriakis]

Looks very cool.

:-) Thank you. It got me a bit more time, as I wanted to give the same (simple) look like SL Classifieds. Almost finished the homepage:
http://www.christeris.net/dev42/reviews.php

So the only that left out are simple code (Search, What's New, RSS) and now I'm sure that I can release it tomorrow night.

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The funny when you're using the development installation for demostration too is that you can loose your mind :-). Wasted 1 hour trying to understand why the average community ratings shows 8 while I knew that it was 7.5. And just now I realized that someone added a rating there :)

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I just release my Reviews mod and is Free!! Sure nothing in common with the requested feature here, but is a well working slim Review system.

[viper357]

:-) Thank you. It got me a bit more time, as I wanted to give the same (simple) look like SL Classifieds. Almost finished the homepage:
http://www.christeris.net/dev42/reviews.php

So the only that left out are simple code (Search, What's New, RSS) and now I'm sure that I can release it tomorrow night.

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The funny when you're using the development installation for demostration too is that you can loose your mind :-). Wasted 1 hour trying to understand why the average community ratings shows 8 while I knew that it was 7.5. And just now I realized that someone added a rating there :)

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I just release my Reviews mod and is Free!! Sure nothing in common with the requested feature here, but is a well working slim Review system.
That looks cool, any love for vb 3.8?

[Christos Teriakis]

vB 3.8 has the GARS system. I don't think that it needs another review system.

[zapiy]

:-) Thank you. It got me a bit more time, as I wanted to give the same (simple) look like SL Classifieds. Almost finished the homepage:
http://www.christeris.net/dev42/reviews.php

So the only that left out are simple code (Search, What's New, RSS) and now I'm sure that I can release it tomorrow night.

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The funny when you're using the development installation for demostration too is that you can loose your mind :-). Wasted 1 hour trying to understand why the average community ratings shows 8 while I knew that it was 7.5. And just now I realized that someone added a rating there :)

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I just release my Reviews mod and is Free!! Sure nothing in common with the requested feature here, but is a well working slim Review system.


Oh wow thats what i need, how do i get my hands on it fella.. Will you release it free or how much to buy it from you?

[Christos Teriakis]

Oh wow thats what i need, how do i get my hands on it fella.. Will you release it free or how much to buy it from you?

All my mods are free and from now on will be also free from copyright links. Since the time that DBTech released their Copyright Manager, I've removed my own copyrights. I found their action insulting me to maximum. Their wording "Site is powered by vBulletin AddOns and Modules by Dragonbyte Tech", means that everything there is their own work. Like there no other coders in this community. So, I'm letting the glory to them. No copyrights from my side.

[tpearl5]

My hopes of dragon byte taking this on: http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/f101/product-business-review-system-11864/

[Ramsesx]

My hopes of dragon byte taking this on: http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/f101/product-business-review-system-11864/
Not a new idea
http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/f8/review-system-580/

[tpearl5]

Not a new idea
http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/f8/review-system-580/

Thanks for pointing that out. Looks like an update was necessary anyway since that hasn't been touched in a couple years.

[DragonByte Tech]

Just a note that we have released a review mod that's currently in open (paid for) beta: http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/vbecommerce.php?productid=295&do=product

Lite version coming very soon :)

[carsafety]

Just a note that we have released a review mod that's currently in open (paid for) beta: http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/vbecommerce.php?productid=295&do=product

Lite version coming very soon :)

Do you have any links to live forums using this mod, please?

Or, is anyone else using it and willing to share a link?

I've been using another review mod for a year now on a test forum. It looks OK, but not as slick as other platforms I've seen that aren't based on vBulletin. Plus, I've had enough issues that I am not willing to risk putting it on my main forum. As it is, I am afraid to update anything on the test forum, for fear of breaking part of the plugin setup and having to spend hours searching for fixes because even the server experts at my hosting provider can't figure it out. Then dreading each contact with their support, who seems to always assume that I am an expert coder and server admin. I realize a review system is a bit more complex than a typical mod or plugin, but I'm hoping to find something more robust, with easier installation/updates and a much better moderator experience in terms of editors, layouts and approvals. Good tech support would be a big bonus, too.

So, any personal experiences with the Dragonbyte-Tech plugin or others would be great!

[ozzy47]

The site you quoted is running the mod.

[carsafety]

Obviously, but I am more interested in third parties who have used it so I can get some independent opinions on experience with it. I tried reviewpost based on the developer's website and product information. It didn't quite live up to my expectations for a paid mod, so I'm hoping to find more feedback from more users this time.

[Alfa1]

Too bad that this project never manifested as intended. Though several admins crowdfunded a reviews solution which was based upon the same requirements. So in a way this project did manifest. Just not for vbulletin. Unfortunately.

[Exeter]

I built my review/product directory based on VB4. Combined with the support tools behind the database I am well over 1,000 dev hours into this. The work is not hard, but the project is very large.

My next work item is to remove VB completely, and run my own forum implementation (because the site does not really need a forum).

http://www.hingmy.com

[ozzy47]

That certainly looks nice, but how does that help all the members in this thread that are looking for the mod? :)

[Ramsesx]

At least I found one site using GARS on VB4, take a look (http://www.teccentral.de/testberichte-reviews-ratgeber-hardware-software-computer-f305-3.html).

[z3r0]

At least I found one site using GARS on VB4, take a look (http://www.teccentral.de/testberichte-reviews-ratgeber-hardware-software-computer-f305-3.html).

I've been using it on vb4 for years - http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/

[ozzy47]

Nice to see that they are still able to use GARS.

[Ramsesx]

I've been using it on vb4 for years - http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/
Nice, but the main problem is the functionality of the rating system and custom fields that prevents most of us to switch to vB4.