Backing up

[havenots]

Oh my god I am so lost, I didn't know what I was getting myself into, I have absolutely know idea what I am doing, it's truly astounding I have got this far though. Till now I have never done anything with computers other than surf the net and post on a few forums.

I have got this forum up and running, don't ask how the head is still spinning. www.myforumplace.com. We have been up and running for just over a week, I have not backed anything up as yet and I am very concerned. I have read heaps but am still at a total lose as how I do this, can someone start with the real basics first and explain the process in layman terms. How where and what do I need to back up.

I do apologizes for asking such basic questions but some help would be appreciated.

BTW I am hosted through Go Daddy

Thanks Vin

[ProFifaLeagues]

This may be of help mate!
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=231481

and also have a good read here!
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=227933



Both the above guys have helped me as a learner loads and come well recommend!
Good luck and well done for getting this far!

[pant]

Really depends. I don't bother doing any backups myself as my host does a complete back up of files and database every 4 hours and keeps these saved for a rolling week. They're rather very good really and I would highly recommend them.

[Lynne]

I would strongly suggest that everybody learn how to do a backup themselves. I've seen many users get screwed when they did something, then wanted a backup, but the backup their host provided was corrupted (of course, then they blame it all on their host when it is really their own fault for not making sure there was a good backup). Learn to do a backup yourself and how to import a backup into a new database yourself. Do this *before* you absolutely need to do it (when your site is down). The time to learn is when you have the time, not when you are in a panic. I think it's great that the OP is already looking into this.


From the manual:
Backing Up The Database via SSH/Telnet (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/../docs/html/maintenance_ssh_backup) or
Backing Up The Database via phpMyAdmin (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/../docs/html/maintenance_phpmyadmin_backup)

Restoring The Database via SSH/Telnet (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/../docs/html/maintenance_ssh_restore) or
Restoring The Database via phpMyAdmin (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/../docs/html/maintenance_phpmyadmin_restore)

If you don't have shell access, some people have also reported success with these scripts:
MySQLDumper (http://www.mysqldumper.de/en/index.php)
MySQLHotxcopy (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134821&highlight=mysqlhotcopy)
Bigdump (http://www.ozerov.de/bigdump.php)

[pant]

I would strongly suggest that everybody learn how to do a backup themselves. I've seen many users get screwed when they did something, then wanted a backup, but the backup their host provided was corrupted (of course, then they blame it all on their host when it is really their own fault for not making sure there was a good backup). Learn to do a backup yourself and how to import a backup into a new database yourself. Do this *before* you absolutely need to do it (when your site is down). The time to learn is when you have the time, not when you are in a panic. I think it's great that the OP is already looking into this.


The guys I'm using are top notch Lynne.

They have this soft restore feature, I can go in and restore a file that I have either deleted or want to roll back to an earlier version. All their complete back ups they do are also stored to a seperate server.

When I was upgrading to VB4 I completely screwed the installation and the database and they had everything restored within 15 minutes downtime. Legends to be honest. I should really look into learning how to do backups but at the moment I really have no incentive to learn unless I had to change host, which I won't be doing for some time with any luck.

[borbole]

I second Lynne's advice as well. Don''t rely on your host only for the backups but make your own as well. Also make sure that they are done properly. I have seen quite some forums totally gone because their admins relied on their host about the backups.

[your24hourstore]

Oh my god I am so lost, I didn't know what I was getting myself into, I have absolutely know idea what I am doing, it's truly astounding I have got this far though. Till now I have never done anything with computers other than surf the net and post on a few forums.

I have got this forum up and running, don't ask how the head is still spinning. www.myforumplace.com. We have been up and running for just over a week, I have not backed anything up as yet and I am very concerned. I have read heaps but am still at a total lose as how I do this, can someone start with the real basics first and explain the process in layman terms. How where and what do I need to back up.

I do apologizes for asking such basic questions but some help would be appreciated.

BTW I am hosted through Go Daddy

Thanks Vin

you go into a HOSTING my hosted site or something like that
then Cpanel you will have to look around, your looking for php administration, it will have an option to do a backup on the server side i think the use starfield or something on godaddy, its a shared server setup so its not actually hosted on godaddy i don't think. but doing a sql dump from there is much better than dumping it through vb


just go to godaddy and search around for HOSTING backup, stuff like that it will also allow a restore through that same area the file will be like myforum.sgl.gz or something like that


if not go daddy does do weekly back up automatically but like lynne says you should know how to do it ..you may have to restore it sometime..

[Brandon Sheley]

The guys I'm using are top notch Lynne.


I would never trust anyone with my data, even the biggest companies can't mess up.
I make a backup every night and it's mailed to me, in case the host just vanishes and is nowhere to be found.

ps.. my host is top notch as well :up:

[ChopSuey]

The auto backup has NEVER let me down.

I have a top notch host also ~:-)

[havenots]

Thanks everyone.

I have managed to back up through my Godaddy control panel. I don't feel entirely comfortable with it just stored there though, should I back up to a separate data base and if so has anyone got any suggestions where I might find one?

[your24hourstore]

just click on it and it should download to your computer save it in a file if you want, they only problem with this is that all the files when built will be the same name so if you decide to download a new backup next week it will over write the one you have now unless you make a new folder for it so a good system is 7 folders one for each day then you could download it daily if you wanted putting each Days backup in a corresponding folder , now you have a weeks worth of data backed up and so on.. have fun

[havenots]

I have today saved it to my hard drive, but as I live in the middle of Australia and rely on a wireless internet connection I do not want to continue doing this. With my wireless internet I am limited in my downloads. I need to be able to move it across the net which makes me think I need a database just for storing my backups.

I am looking for suggestions for a host, and then what is the best way to move them, do I move them from the Godaddy "backup" or from VBulletin control panel?

[your24hourstore]

you can store them since the restore is going to come from 2 places you have no choice in that part, go daddy will do an auto restore and it does that from where the sql file is stored by them, the copy you download will have to be uploaded to them if you manually do a restore and it will have to come from your puter so you may as well just download them . they are not huge files to get down it does how ever take time to put them back up or restore them. so best to just save them to folders on you computer that way if you restore you use the last known good file stored on godaddy , thats all you really need anyway unless you for some reason have to restore to an earlier date

[pant]

hahahahaha I love my host www.vidahost.com

Logged into cPanel and there is a big shiny button that says complete back up which does exactly what it says on the tin. Backs up everything file side and DB wise and then deposits a zip in your /home folder. I've just downloaded the complete lot. I now feel secure.

How often would people do a complete back up though, once a week, once a month?

[your24hourstore]

if you add mods you should

if you have had problems

if you are paranoid

if you are bored

but whatever you do you should keep one latest good known backup :D

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By the by, godaddys system is one of the hardest to use or understand in my opinion

i hate their whole java based system its to ad heavy takes more time gleaning out promos and buy this stuff than its worth, a commercial monstrosity, although i do buy my domains through them i would never host it with them