What can we do to make vBulletin.org a better place?

[Dean C]

thats a very nice attutitude indeed leah... but not every1 has that enthusiasm...

[N9ne]

Some great ideas here, on the first page, was it Neo that said something about a clan of hackers? I think that's an awesome idea and I'd love to see that happen, it would make for some amazing hacks, and some hacks being made faster and so on...

[Dean C]

id hate to have a clan on here...

- miSt

[tubedogg]

I'm not sure "clan" is the right word. I don't know if any of you visit DeviantArt.com, but they have a project called Mosaics. Basically, someone posts a template, and then people work on a section of the template, and the result is a mosaic of a bunch of people's work.
http://www.deviantart.com/?tier=mosaics
I'm thinking something along those lines, where a bunch of people work on a "template" (that is, a hack idea) to produce a hack. It wouldn't be able to be as free-form as the mosaic idea, otherwise it would never get done and wouldn't work worth ++++, but you get the idea.

[Diva]

Six pages to comment on and my eyes are buggy. Or is that Mist's sig?

1. I bought this board because of the great support. That's what sold me, at least. When the hacks were split off, and the support was split, I was worried. I would love more of a support forum. Most hackers have been wonderful, and I appreciate their help. But I think more of a support forum would be great for the hacks that do not have any support. I realize there is VB3 coming out, but I believe many people are going to keep their current version until the bugs are worked out and the hacks updated. Therefore, I hope support for the current hacks will be kept up to date.

2. I didn't post here except for help because I never interacted with members and mods otherwise. If you want a community, then we shoud treat it as such. For instance, The Lounge. What type of conversations do you want? Is it a place to talk to eachother as members? Maybe someone should take turns posting there to keep the chit chat going. [Great PC, Teck ].

3. If you are going to rate the hacks, I hope it's in another forum. I'm not a kid and to read that my compliment isn't as valuable didn't sit right with me. One compliments the coding and the other compliments what it does. Personally I think it's just as important that someone enjoys what the hack does. I may not know how to do a hack, but I enjoy each hack that I install and appreciate the work that went into it, even if someone thinks the coding is 'messy'.

4. All this talk of clans and making people click on installed worries me. I may download a hack, and then find that it isn't right for me. I would like to have the choice on whether I want to say that I have this hack. When I hear about people not allowing hacks and splitting into clans, my only concern is that this board needs to have people come together. If I ask for help, but someone from a 'clan' isn't around, then I'm back where I started.

5. I do think that people get mighty petty on the hacks. We should be supportive of eachothers' efforts. I respect that the original author should be stated in an 'updated' hack, but here are two instances that need to be considered:

A. Someone makes a hack that honestly does not know of a 'simular' hack. The second hack is just as worthy of being published as the first. It may offer something different, that someone wants.

B. A hack was created over a year ago and the original author is no longer posting. What happens then? Can a person update the hack with a mention of the original authors' name? [like the Birthday in thread hack]. Or is it back to the request board?

I'm really starting to enjoy my time here, and try to come here through out the day. There are some great people here and I enjoy chatting with them. I can't cook, much less make a hack. But I hope my support as a member counts.

PS: Who else here want's to spank DrkFusions' avatar?

[g-force2k2]

one suggestion tubedogg that could make things interesting... when releasing a hack maybe allow two ppl to release it... ie:

when Sinecure and Xenon made the reason for edit hack... it was a combination of their two efforts... and thats great... im sure they both agree that it was a (let me emphasize) 'team effort'

so i would personally like to see an option for allowing the release of a hack to be a shared option where both users get equal credit (maybe hard) but perhaps both get credit in their profiles...

in this sense it would led to the future of team work and bringing the community closer... imo this would be a great idea... i know i would use this feature for helping hackers learn how to hack and it can be a 'feel good' type of things just another of my opinions... regards...

oh plus the support issue may be resolved in some cases... two ppl are always better then one just my ideas...

g-force2k2

[Xenon]

g-force very right, that hack was a team effort
but now it's not easy to mak such hacks, because just one person can upload the newest version or edit it in the db (that was a problem i didn't think of. Ok now it's easy for me, because i'm a mod )

so i think your idea is very good for thos team hacks and also if someone else should upgrade hacks from original authors.

[Erwin]

That's a good idea - a hack that has 2 or more authors, so when the install is clicked, it goes to both the authors' profiles.

[Xenon]

that's also was i had in mind with the clan system.

a clan hack can be edited by all members of the clan (or the ones a clanleader allowed )

[Dean C]

i still wouldn't like to have a clan system....

- miSt