Why so little attention towards CMS integration?

[mondala]

I find bridges/hacks for forum integration are really iffy... you want to be careful because if you have something that is not well developed or not supported, that of course things might break and you'll left in a panic.

vbAdvanced works very well, phpfox is working on a vbulletin intergation, vivvo has vbulletin integration, the company i work for in my sig, Subdreamer CMS has reliable vbulletin integration. Even interspire article live has sent a recent survey asking user if they would like vbulletin integration so that is also something to look forward to.

My only advice is to go with something that is proven to work and preferably supported. Forum integration/bridging is very complex and it is best to do it right the first time.

[Ian Gordon]

The truth is that this has been in discussion for over 4 years, when vBulletin was still in version 2.5, the problem is most people don't want to do it without getting paid to do the heavy lifting. You would think that a group of competent programmers would release the mod free-of-charge as a group effort for the benefit of every vB owner.

The even more interesting part is that all the code to create pages, categories, articles and all of this is already there, it simply needs to be put together in a meaningful way and the Admin CP needs to be updated to reflect the new functionality of a CMS option.

There is no reason for the delay other than that people don't really want it or can't decide on a basic set of functionality.

I would say that it should:

1. Pages
2. Sections
3. Clean URLS
4. Image Gallery

These are probably the most requested features and something that isn't even that hard to do. I would be willing to work with a group of no less than 3 or 4 other programmers to implement this system if, we can just have this base functionality with using hooks to add additional functionality.

If anyone is game, please email me at: ian.gordon@gmail.com

I would be MORE than willing to help lay the foundations for a basic page-creating, section-organizing, clean urls-generating, image gallery-having CMS for vB for FREE.

[Evaporate]

You know I really really like VBulletin. I moved from a n SMF/Joomla bridged forum (bridge was rubbish, joomla overkill and not integrated enough, have to use a lot of non integrated features and in the end users did not use the Joomla stuff). SMF was also slow and nowhere near as good as Vb for a number of reasons.

However the one thing I struggle with is a CMS. I've got VBadvanced, Subdreamer (and looking at Vbportal,). I've now narrowed the search to VBdrupal or VBadvanced.

However what I really want is a CMS that can really integrate with VBulletin , showing the modules and exposing any of the VB functions into the portal bits, yet can also look nice and show a good page.

Nothing exists like this. It's crazy. I would pay $150 for some kind of CMS that gave me this feature. I would suspect that 1000's of others would also pay for this .

Joomla is very good and growing all the time in features. Looks like Drupal is also a good contender. In my opinion if there was a VB release that could integrate fully with one of those two options (with a lot of modules thrown in) then they would have a hit on there hands.

I thought Subdreamer might be the answer but there's not enough modules that expose VB data, it does look nice however but lacks (VB calender, photpost/photoplog/vb blogs etc). I don't want to have to code this stuff. I bought a license with the intention of paying for a nice skin, they do some great free skins as well but this lack of VB modules puts me off.

I want Vbulletin to be at the heart of any CMS I use, not an adjunct. At the end of the day my site is my forum and my CMS is just an extension of that. Well it would be if it existed. (I've seen the Joomla /VB integration is doa)

I might well choose the VBDrupal route or get someone to professionally skin a vbadvanced implementation to make it look less blocky. But it's driving me crazy. If Jelsoft owned a decent gallery implementation (Photoplog or photpost) and a CMS addon they would have made another $300 out of me. It would be worth it in terms of time saved. I want life to be easy.

First to get a decent CMS with a decent forum wins I think, Joomla/fireboard is a couple of years off at least to get to a decent stage imo), I also find a lot of the Joomla community builder stuff just overkill as well.

Jelsoft, I will pay good money for this.

EDIT-- I've just seen the post mentioning VIVO and PHPFOX. Doh. Right I have two more candidates to evaluate now. Please someone make my life simple.

[Evaporate]

I've just seen the new phpbb 3.0 stuff, there are some half decent portals being made for that. Another year and they may have a contender. Looked at vivo (re my above post) , a decent CMS but may suffer from a lack of specific VB modules. I might just skin VBA as an interim thing. To be fair the IPB also seems to suffer the same lack of integration. But I really like VB. Please someone help me part with my cash. I just want VB data on the front end, Calender, posts, blog, images and the ability to put up a few decent articles and I'm happy.

[deep_blue]

Looks like there is huge user base (myself included) who want a CMS desperately but nobody is willing to give that!!!

I just wonder why so!!

[Evaporate]

Originally Posted by deep_blue

Looks like there is huge user base (myself included) who want a CMS desperately but nobody is willing to give that!!!

I just wonder why so!!

I think it's because the next version of Vbulletin is taking up all the time, and will probably include cms integration in.

I am using VBAdvanced at the moment (www.planetmgc.com) . But I am going to do something much better for the next release of my website (complete custom build!):up:

[ComputerModding]

IN reply to a comment made earlier about why don;t people get together and make a opensource CMS for VB

Well that one is simple, its all to do with the cash, if this was to happen my pockets would certainly be lighter.

I make custom CMS systems for people who want to integrate their website with vBulletin and use the information stored in the vb user table in the other parts of their website.

8/10 times I find that people have already developed what they want as a website with the forum already attached and running but come to me just to get the integration finished off, and the biggest problem as to why alot of people are not doing this??

The programming! I mean if you know how vb works then the integration with your own CMS (say made with Dreamweavers user authentication script) and vb is going to be alot easier than you think.

The main thing you need to know is how the encryption for the vb password field works, as soon as you know that then you got it licked, but have fun trying to find that on here, so far every answer to this question on the site is wrong ......... saying that it is not wrong just written out wrong!!!!

If anybody wants a integration you can always PM me but I do not work for free.

Kevin