Hacks should be released in ONE ZIP file please

[twoseven]

rar has a better compression ratio but ace has the best. but neither are standardized to the point that zip is.

[Biker_GA]

Originally Posted by Dark Visor

Why? The only reason I can see is because it is a native Linux format. But, sizewise (if there is such a word) - isn't RAR still smaller?

Yep, RAR is smaller, but I do prefer handling tarballs. (Yes, I use a Linux installation.)

Luckily, Konqueror handles zip files well enough.

[Erwin]

Just so members know, the vBulletin.org staff are discussing this issue as we speak to see if we can come up with a better solution. Thanks for your patience.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by Erwin

Just so members know, the vBulletin.org staff are discussing this issue as we speak to see if we can come up with a better solution. Thanks for your patience.

:up:

[Chris M]

Why don't you develop your own way of compressing data? Call it .stefan or .erwin

Satan

[Erwin]

Originally Posted by hellsatan

Why don't you develop your own way of compressing data? Call it .stefan or .erwin

Satan

We are seriously looking into that.

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by Colin F

Please don't expect changes before our upgrade to 3.5 though, as all of this would require code modification, and it was decided not to modify the code until 3.5 is available.

For the record, no code changes are required, and it doesn't take that long to restore things as they were. File types are defined through the admincp in vBulletin. The same way the file types were removed instantly a week or two ago, they can be returned instantly as well, from the admincp.

If you want to stop modifying things until 3.5, then just stop modifying things until 3.5. Hopefully common sense will prevail by then.

[Erwin]

Originally Posted by tamarian

For the record, no code changes are required, and it doesn't take that long to restore things as they were. File types are defined through the admincp in vBulletin. The same way the file types were removed instantly a week or two ago, they can be returned instantly as well, from the admincp.

If you want to stop modifying things until 3.5, then just stop modifying things until 3.5. Hopefully common sense will prevail by then.

We did it now so that when we go to 3.5 and use a new system, we don't have to go back and start zipping up attachments again.

I'm interested to know why you are so adamant against zipping up attachments - if only to save bandwidth and hard disk space for Jelsoft, it is reason enough.

Feel free to PM me to discuss.

[tamarian]

Originally Posted by Erwin

I'm interested to know why you are so adamant against zipping up attachments - if only to save bandwidth and hard disk space for Jelsoft, it is reason enough.

For the same reasons I pointed out in the other 2 threads. The pattern now seems to go like this:

Staff decides to do something (usually disabling a stock vB feature, or removing a a hack), then they just do it. Then feedback comes in, then an announcement is posted after the fact saying things will be done this way from now on. If members don't like, 3 things will happen: One mod will say "read the post!", the other will say "We have reasons we cannot tell you" or "what do you really need that for?", and the third will say "We appreciate your opinion, and we may revisit the issue after we upgrade to 3.5"

As for saving Jelsoft bandwidth, despite it being already compressed with Gzip, let me say this: The disk space and bandwidth was initially paid by the founders of the forum, and there are many here who won't mind hosting it. Jelsoft picked it up in order ensure the licensing. Now that it has it and can check the licensing, now it complains about the monthly cost to run it? They can't have it both ways, either let soemoneelse run it and pay for it, or if they prefer to host it to ensure licensing, then they need to pay.

The more they increase control, and decide in the dark about all these issues, and we're just told to do it and "try to understand" without any obvious reason, the more it will driver down the quality of the work people are willing to share.

I know many members don't understand this, for they probably didn't see this pattern, and it only effects developers, but they might be next. They'll be equally outraged if they needed to fill things, or do certain things to download each hack, and being told they have to do it for "undiclosed reasons".

I'm sure you guys mean well, but your are overpolicing this thing to death, and making all authors pay for the sins of of one or two, which is not the right thing to do, period.

[Colin F]

Originally Posted by tamarian

For the record, no code changes are required, and it doesn't take that long to restore things as they were. File types are defined through the admincp in vBulletin. The same way the file types were removed instantly a week or two ago, they can be returned instantly as well, from the admincp.

If you want to stop modifying things until 3.5, then just stop modifying things until 3.5. Hopefully common sense will prevail by then.

I said we were looking into other possibilities, for example zipping files when they're attached. These require code modification and for that reason we're waiting until 3.5.
Once again I ask you to respect this decision at least temporarily.