The Arcive of Official vBulletin Modifications Site.

GiveMeABreak · #71 10-23-2009, 10:35 AM

open forum - closed
now managed to shoot

Mandar Salvi · #72 10-23-2009, 10:40 AM

Whoa looking great

rgf207 · #73 10-23-2009, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wii

Hmm, having the site down for so long is very unprofessional, I have no idea what's going at vBulletin, developers leaving at the same time, new management, new posting rules, new prices, og well, I just hope the new version is good.

Agreed. This is extremely unprofessional. You would think a company as large as IB would have known beforehand that the new installation would not seamlessly interact with their current system.

I'm an I.T. admin. If I upgraded a system at our office and took over 24 hours for what should be 1 to 2 hours I would be fired.

denman75 · #74 10-23-2009, 10:57 AM

looks good indeed
all the fuzz about the url and best software name ,well for years vb is a outstanding product
and will do so for many more years ,i just dont get it ,why some people like to see heads rolling .
those guys are proud on there product there using a funky url and so what !
there proud and so should we be ,they work hard enough for it

vauge · #75 10-23-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

all the fuzz about the url and best software name ,well for years vb is a outstanding product and will do so for many more years ,i just dont get it ,why some people like to see heads rolling .

I have used vB forum software for years. They set the standard for what can be done.

Lets look at the facts:
1. They boasted they have a better product coming which looks similar to IP product.
2. They ask us to purchase in *advance* a product we have never seen.
3. They are losing developers.
4. They stop the China group.
5. A "simple" upgrade has been down now for well over 24 hours.

This looks very bad for perception on the leadership. I am personally considering not upgrading. It makes me wonder if their core philosophy of quality over quantity has changed. There are other software for forums. Especially if I can no longer use 3.8 when my license "runs out". It also makes me wonder if the new product looks and feels like another product on the market if vB is actually innovating or simply re-skinning the old stuff.

I'm not trying to kick them while they are down, but that is my take.

Trevor Hannant · #76 10-23-2009, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wii

Where did you read this ?

Based on the fact that they said 'the morning' - that allows them up to noon

Morsolo · #77 10-23-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vauge

I have used vB forum software for years. They set the standard for what can be done.

Lets look at the facts:
1. They boasted they have a better product coming which looks similar to IP product.
2. They ask us to purchase in *advance* a product we have never seen.
3. They are losing developers.
4. They stop the China group.
5. A "simple" upgrade has been down now for well over 24 hours.

This looks very bad for perception on the leadership. I am personally considering not upgrading. It makes me wonder if their core philosophy of quality over quantity has changed. There are other software for forums. Especially if I can no longer use 3.8 when my license "runs out". It also makes me wonder if the new product looks and feels like another product on the market if vB is actually innovating or simply re-skinning the old stuff.

I'm not trying to kick them while they are down, but that is my take.

The problem is, there isn't really any alternatives...

I'm not so sure about IPB; and all the free ones are horrible...

Trevor Hannant · #78 10-23-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vauge

It also makes me wonder if the new product looks and feels like another product on the market if vB is actually innovating or simply re-skinning the old stuff.

And my take is that the forums are getting re-skinned along with the start of the re-factoring of the entire codebase. Given the time it's taken to get this far without doing that, I'm glad that they're only doing what's necessary just now otherwise who knows when we'd get the fully re-worked suite.

vB4 is just the start of things - IMO, vB5 will be the first full new incarnation of the vB product.

WEBDosser · #79 10-23-2009, 11:34 AM

seems a bit strange the site is not back yet, i hope they ain't done a runner.

Trevor Hannant · #80 10-23-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsolo

The problem is, there isn't really any alternatives...

I'm not so sure about IPB; and all the free ones are horrible...

I agree. I had to use a free one on a site earlier this year as they wouldn't pay for one and it was crap. Crap to use, crap to style - you get what you pay for.

X vBulletin 3.8.12 by vBS Debug Information
Page Generation 0.04709 seconds Memory Usage 2,281KB Queries Executed 12 (?)
More Information
Template Usage: (1)SHOWTHREAD (1)ad_footer_end (1)ad_footer_start (1)ad_header_end (1)ad_header_logo (1)ad_navbar_below (1)ad_showthread_beforeqr (1)ad_showthread_firstpost (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start (6)bbcode_quote (1)footer (1)forumjump (1)forumrules (1)gobutton (1)header (1)headinclude (1)navbar (3)navbar_link (120)option (1)pagenav (1)pagenav_curpage (4)pagenav_pagelink (10)post_thanks_box (10)post_thanks_button (1)post_thanks_javascript (1)post_thanks_navbar_search (10)post_thanks_postbit_info (10)postbit (10)postbit_onlinestatus (10)postbit_wrapper (1)spacer_close (1)spacer_open (1)tagbit_wrapper Phrase Groups Available: global inlinemod postbit posting reputationlevel showthread	Included Files: ./showthread.php ./global.php ./includes/init.php ./includes/class_core.php ./includes/config.php ./includes/functions.php ./includes/class_hook.php ./includes/modsystem_functions.php ./includes/functions_bigthree.php ./includes/class_postbit.php ./includes/class_bbcode.php ./includes/functions_reputation.php ./includes/functions_post_thanks.php Hooks Called: init_startup init_startup_session_setup_start init_startup_session_setup_complete cache_permissions fetch_threadinfo_query fetch_threadinfo fetch_foruminfo style_fetch cache_templates global_start parse_templates global_setup_complete showthread_start showthread_getinfo forumjump showthread_post_start showthread_query_postids showthread_query bbcode_fetch_tags bbcode_create showthread_postbit_create postbit_factory postbit_display_start post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_start post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_end post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_start post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_end post_thanks_function_thanked_already_start post_thanks_function_thanked_already_end fetch_musername postbit_imicons bbcode_parse_start bbcode_parse_complete_precache bbcode_parse_complete postbit_display_complete post_thanks_function_can_thank_this_post_start pagenav_page pagenav_complete tag_fetchbit_complete forumrules navbits navbits_complete showthread_complete
Messages:

The Arcive of Official vBulletin Modifications Site.

It is not a VB3 engine, just a parsed copy!