Staff Members: Election by Senior Members and Above

[peterska2]

Originally Posted by Dean C

hambil: That's total nonsense. Design has nothing to do with (X)HTML/CSS

So what exactly does design involve? Drawing pictures?

There's a reason for people appearing on this page and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with pictures.

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by Boofo

Dean, be realistic now. Design covers many areas, not just one.

Boofo, I'm sorry but I'm not going to accept this arguement in its slightest. HTML is used to build web page designs into their on-screen form. You'd say an architect is a designer, but not the builders who put together the building.

[hambil]

Originally Posted by Dean C

hambil: That's total nonsense. Design has nothing to do with (X)HTML/CSS

Delete all the css files on your vb site, then delete all the templates, and tell me how it looks after.

[akanevsky]

Originally Posted by Boofo

To set the record straight, yes, I have come to you on a few occasions, but not as many as you would like to believe. I have come to others, too, as you can tell by the jokes going around about coders hiding from me.

It's no big secret that I have come to you or many others here for advice and help in coding. I don't have the skills in coding yet as a lot of you younger ones here do. Remember, as you get older, things aren't as easy to grasp in the learning area as they once were. I'm learning all the time as well all are.

Does my lack of complete coding skills interfere with my Moderation duties here? I don't think it has, although I'm sure there are those that would argue that point.

Thank you, Boofo, for stepping forward. I have never expected it, and it has surprised me in a good way.

To make it straight: Coding skills do not affect your moderation duties, at least they do not seem to. And correct, you haven't come to me too often, but let it be known that the last question you asked is the primary cause of this discussion. Based on that last question, what is the reason you, and not someone else, are the leader of the coding team? Are you there to pick others who are skilled enough to fill the position (that's what you said yourself in the next post)? That would explain it, but the current composition of the coding team doesn't make it seem to be the case. I am just curious to find out what the real reason is.

Dean C
Thank you for your post (even though you disagree with the idea).

She has more drive to help and learn than most of the older Modes here, myself included.

Nominations of those who show initiative is how you can easily find out who would actually be willing to actively contribute. That's just my opinion though. To clarify, here's how I envision it:

1. A coder/designer proves capability by releasing a lot of work of high quiality and/or usefulness.
2. That coder/designer communicates (in one way or another) that he or she wants to do be on the coding / design team.
3. Existing staff either approves or disapproves the request, followed by a release of a public poll, the purpose of which is to determine whether the person will be actually elected.

[Gio~Logist]

Originally Posted by peterska2

So what exactly does design involve? Drawing pictures?

There's a reason for people appearing on this page and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with pictures.

Read this please :P

Originally Posted by gio~logist

The ability to design should be determined more by the design, rather than how the design is coded on a website. If you ask someone to design you a building or something, they will design it. However, it is not always their job to build it. Yet, they are still the designer. This isn't different for web designers. Which is why you always see designers asking for people to code their layouts or sell things un coded.

Also, the reason a lot of people are there is because vb.org consideres people that work with templates to be designers. HTML is actually a coding language, is it not?

[Nordinho]

Just wondering why a discussion about staff has to be in public. Especially when naming people. I wouldn't feel confortable if I was new on the staff now. On my site, discussions like these are done in private...

[Gio~Logist]

Originally Posted by Dean C

Boofo, I'm sorry but I'm not going to accept this arguement in its slightest. HTML is used to build web page designs into their on-screen form. You'd say an architect is a designer, but not the builders who put together the building.

Hey, why are you stealing my analogy?

[Gio~Logist]

Originally Posted by hambil

Delete all the css files on your vb site, then delete all the templates, and tell me how it looks after.

Take a screenshot of your website, then compare it to your existing vbulletin. Same design, just no function. Enough said.

[akanevsky]

Firstly, no names were mentioned. At least, I haven't mentioned any.

The reason for this conversation to be public is that it would be very difficult to have this particular conversation in private. If this was private, there would be no way to have input from everyone. Besides, it is not possible to have more than two people in a private conversation...

[Gio~Logist]

Originally Posted by Psionic Vision

Thank you, Boofo, for stepping forward. I have never expected it, and it has surprised me in a good way.

To make it straight: Coding skills do not affect your moderation duties, at least they do not seem to. And correct, you haven't come to me too often, but let it be known that the last question you asked is the primary cause of this discussion. Based on that last question, what is the reason you, and not someone else, are the leader of the coding team? Are you there to pick others who are skilled enough to fill the position (that's what you said yourself in the next post)? That would explain it, but the current composition of the coding team doesn't make it seem to be the case. I am just curious to find out what the real reason is.

Dean C
Thank you for your post (even though you disagree with the idea).



Nominations of those who show initiative is how you can easily find out who would actually be willing to actively contribute. That's just my opinion though. To clarify, here's how I envision it:

1. A coder/designer proves capability by releasing a lot of work of high quiality and/or usefulness.
2. That coder/designer communicates (in one way or another) that he or she wants to do be on the coding / design team.
3. Existing staff either approves or disapproves the request, followed by a release of a public poll, the purpose of which is to determine whether the person will be actually elected.

Heh. You said a lot of what i already have and what i think as well. Hence, why it's quoted.