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EricaJoy · #**106** 12-22-2005, 04:30 PM

/me would have voted for ibProArcade

instead i voted for Adsense banners in the archive. After reading the overall feedback about v3 Arcade in its thread, it winning hack of the month would be a bit misleading to me. I submit that there be some sort of footnote added to this months vote about the removal of ibProArcade so that people are aware of what happened.

kewl1uk · #**107** 12-22-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris M

Of course it is representative of vB.org - If those 200+ members who voted for ibPro wish to change their vote in this poll, they are free to PM me and give me an alternative to add a vote number for...

Just because it was removed does not mean it isn't representative; People who may have voted for tamarian's hack that was removed didn't moan about it to this extent and stop their virtual feet...

I can honestly tell you right now that if it wasJohn and the hack v3arcade that had broken the rules you would not be too displeased would you?

Again, this is nothing against Mr Zeropage or any kind of conspiracy - But what's the phrase? Ignorance is not an excuse? Just as others have found out before...

Chris

Personally, I don't want to change my vote. I voted for ibProArcade and as far as I'm concerned my vote stands. HotM for december is dead and as has already been previously posted this affair will detract from the winner probably to the extent that the declared winner will not be regarded as the true winner!

btw I too am waiting for the link to the HotM rule.

This is my last on this subject. I'm just too disgusted to post any more about it!

Oblivion Knight · #**108** 12-22-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kewl1uk

V3Arcade win this poll. But morally ibPro has won hands down and this poll is not representative of the voting of vb.orgs membership!

I wouldn't say 20 votes ahead was "hands down", but you know.. I don't care.

I don't see why v3arcade is even being brought in to reasoning behind ibProArcade's removal and the like, neither me nor John had any idea until someone mentioned it in the support thread.

Brad · #**109** 12-22-2005, 05:43 PM

Starting next month there will be a set of rules and guidelines sent to every hack author in the poll via PM, this will be listed in the thread, and on the rules page as well. Currently there is no rule on this, but as Chris said hacks have been removed or not allowed in the poll before due to similar situations.

Also lets get one thing in the clear, this is not a conspiracy to ensure v3arcade wins this poll. I assure you we have better things to do then rigging HOTM polls and if anyone on the staff ever did such a thing they would be dismissed.

Regs · #**110** 12-22-2005, 05:47 PM

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Currently there is no rule on this

Are you 100% sure because that's not what someone else has said in here and that same person placed blame directly on the coder here.

Has an apology been sent yet to the coder?

MrZeropage · #**111** 12-22-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris M

What possible reasoning would the staff have to remove your hack if such a rule was not in place?

Only thing left is my wish to see where this rule is ... By doing a decision on a rule somebody should know where it is

Quote:

Has an apology been sent yet to the coder?

Nope

kewl1uk · #**112** 12-22-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad

Starting next month there will be a set of rules and guidelines sent to every hack author in the poll via PM, this will be listed in the thread, and on the rules page as well. Currently there is no rule on this, but as Chris said hacks have been removed or not allowed in the poll before due to similar situations.

Also lets get one thing in the clear, this is not a conspiracy to ensure v3arcade wins this poll. I assure you we have better things to do then rigging HOTM polls and if anyone on the staff ever did such a thing they would be dismissed.

There is no rule against PMing members to gain support for HotM but hacks have been removed for flouting it. Hmm, ok.

Regardless of whether this is a conspiracy to ensure v3arcade wins this poll or not, that's the way it looks to all and sundry I think.

Brad · #**113** 12-22-2005, 05:55 PM

There was a 'rule', it was 'unwritten' and until this happened we always solved these issues before the public had a chance to see them. As I said before next month a clear set of guidelines will be sent to everyone to make sure this doesn't happen again.

kewl1uk · #**114** 12-22-2005, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad

There was a 'rule', it was 'unwritten' and until this happened we always solved these issues before the public had a chance to see them. As I said before next month a clear set of guidelines will be sent to everyone to make sure this doesn't happen again.

Oh come on. This is getting more ridiculous by the minute. If a rule is unwritten how is everyone expected to know about it? There was no rule against PMing members to gain support for HotM, MrZeroPage didn't break the rule which didn't exist, and this whole affair sucks. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

Jenta · #**115** 12-22-2005, 06:09 PM

I'm speechless really. All I can say is the staff made a very poor decision here and no amount of complaining will make them reverse it.

It's a sad sad day when a hack that requires you to pay $60 to get real support wins HOTM. That should be a bigger issue than 17 pms.

Chris M · #**116** 12-22-2005, 06:11 PM

It's 'unwritten' because nobody took the time to write it up for public viewing evidently - I believed it was somewhere but upon further investigation it turns out that if there was, it has since been removed...

tamarian broke the rule a couple of months ago, and we took similar action - As for what is going on with the vBgooglemap hack, I don't know - Chances are that will be chased up when the Administration gets around to it...

You call pull apart statements by not reading them and picking out words taken out of context all you like; The staff decided, it is a rule, and the mistake of it not being plastered all over anything remotely to do with HOTM will be rectified...

Chris

GoTTi · #**117** 12-22-2005, 06:12 PM

what ever its over with. we know who is winning this poll and who will win.

kewl1uk · #**118** 12-22-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenta

I'm speechless really. All I can say is the staff made a very poor decision here and no amount of complaining will make them reverse it.

It's a sad sad day when a hack that requires you to pay $60 to get real support wins HOTM. That should be a bigger issue than 17 pms.

Agreed. Quite frankly, if the "Staff" are going to knobble the voting like this I personally can't see any reason why I should vote in future polls. Obviously it's the "Staff" who decides who wins!

Chris M · #**119** 12-22-2005, 06:17 PM

Ok guys - Take a few deep breaths, go get a stress ball and think before you make wild accusations...

I'll repeat what I have said earlier so you can understand this:

This hack was removed to make it fair for everyone who has ever been subject to this rule, and as a reminder against doing it to those thinking of doing so in the future

This has nothing to do with any personal or professional agendas...

Chris

TyleR · #**120** 12-22-2005, 06:18 PM

Jesus people, Stop the fraking crying already..the Admin part of the vB.org team has spoken on this issue, aswell as part of the moderation team..if you dont like their decision, oh well, there's no prize in aruging here..most it can get you is a ban here and on vb.com if you continue and it gets out of hand.

Just drop the whole sherade, and know who you voted for. It's no matter at this point, as staff already said they aren't re-instating the hack.

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