Regarding the vBHosting Hack

[mello_mike]

Originally Posted by nighteyes

Personally I think when a company starts trying to stifle creativty and innovation to boost profit margins its time to move over to another product.

That basically sums up everything!!!

[dniMTheory]

I don't think it is as big of a problem as jelsoft is making it. Just add a TOS to the hack that says you can't sell the forums that are created or something like that.

Or maybe it competes with the upcoming "admin demo" thingy thats jelsoft is presenting pretty soon. It is kinda ironic that someone created a "virtual admin demo" before the actual software programmers released their own.

it is one install, one domain, one license,yada, yada,yada...

I'm curious to see how this turns out.

[Morrus]

Originally Posted by nighteyes

As far as all of us can tell, these terms are not strictly laid out in our licensing agreement; this language will probably appear in a revised agreement to be forced upon us in future upgrades.

I imagine that will be the case. Future versions of the license will probably contain such language.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by GameCrash

Seeing all this from the other side, this thread is perfect pr for my hack I hadn't that many people and that many posts in that time in the hack thread

were all backing u up m8 cause we hate to see the little guy,get pushed around

[VampireMan]

Originally Posted by GameCrash

Seeing all this from the other side, this thread is perfect pr for my hack I hadn't that many people and that many posts in that time in the hack thread

rofl

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by dniMTheory

I don't think it is as big of a problem as jelsoft is making it. Just add a TOS to the hack that says you can't sell the forums that are created or something like that.

Why? Charging users to have subforums is done in many forums without a hack, so I don't think this violates the license agreement at all. It's really a moral issue, and not something mandated in the agreement. I don't think anyone is ever going to consider purchasing or getting a subforum a suitable alternative to buying a real vB.

I'm upset that I never saw this hack before it was removed; I really hope it returns.

[hypedave]

Originally Posted by nighteyes

Yep a huge number of installations do exactly what you describe.

Yeah but I bet Jelsoft never saw it as a threat until a automation utility came out. So where does Jelsoft go from here.

A. Bury the hack, and contact several hunder boards that are currently Co-Hosting small forums?

B. Purchase the hack from the creator and build opon it

Originally Posted by nighteyes

Personally I think when a company starts trying to stifle creativty and innovation to boost profit margins its time to move over to another product. We'll have to see what their final determination is first of course........

I have one leased license and 1 owned license awaiting to be renewed and 6 more to purchase, I think i'll wait.

[Mike11212]

Jelsoft = Microsoft?

[VampireMan]

they could release is as vbulletin corperate edition.

[FleaBag]

I'm not trying to be funny here, but Jelsoft have just shot themselves in the foot. Nothing in the license agreement prohibits this hack - the hack itself does nothing illegal.

Companies that prohibit use of something because it is not in their interest do not fair well in the public spotlight. It's like when Microsoft coded a version of Windows that wouldn't allow Netscape to work 'out of the box'.

Claiming this hack is illegal is ridiculous - claiming it is against the license agreement is less so, but still too headstrong. Just because you write a license agreement for the use of your software does not make it the word of law.

It's like a record label suing the maker of a CD writer because it might or could be used to copy CD's they make.

I have over 70 forums that I 'hosted', before I had this hack. All this does is allow the users to do the tasks they would usually have to e-mail me to do. Saving me time. This loses nobody profit - the people I host forums for would never even consider buying vB. I don't see what the problem is here.

My forums are coming up for re-newal also - if this hack is 'outlawed' I might find myself making the switch to a system that doesn't view this situation so aggresively.