Beware of Ravio.com & Corey Wojen AKA c-pr0mpt

[Chris Gwynne]

Originally Posted by AlexanderT

Hmm this is really sad. Not sad because I feel pity for Ravio, but because I truely like the designs of most ravio-made forums (hostingdiscussion.com, WHT, yaxay). To be honest, I would still consider having a custom design made by Ravio, but of course after reading the various warning threads, I would make precautions (like have an agreement by Ravio to finish his work etc).

Or, if someone could point me to another designer (since I am *** in design) with equal capabilities, I'd be very happy as well!

Alex

[no self advertising please]

[Princeton]

the first thing anyone should do before contracting work with someone should be to verify their business credentials

If this is the case, you can check if the company is a legit company by going into their states' website (business section) and verify that the company is registered with the state.

If the business is not registered than you are taking a LARGE risk.

[msimplay]

Originally Posted by a-drive

Funny thread. Sad, but funny.

Yes you have the right to all of your little rants and stories of non work by Corey Wojen but do you really expect anything to come of posting these stories over and over again on each forum, there's no point.

Whoever created RavioWarning.com you're funny, what's the point in creating it? At most a couple of hundred of people have probably visited it, a quarter of the comments are probably made up in an attempt to further put down Corey Wojen for whatever reason. I doubt he, that is Corey Wojen, gives a **** about the website, as it looks childish; looks childish, with comments left by... probably children.

If you're going to make any complaint about him, do it professionally and do it legally and not posting on forums, which on the whole gives the whole situation a bad impression.

read the thread the guy already said hes been through the professional approach all he is doing is warning us
Simple as :tired:

[slinky]

Originally Posted by AlexanderT

To be honest, I would still consider having a custom design made by Ravio, but of course after reading the various warning threads, I would make precautions (like have an agreement by Ravio to finish his work etc).

Ahhh.... a contract is only as good as the person signing it. What you want is for delivery prior to payment and that is simply not gonna happen with Ravio. You pay at your own risk and he may or may not take advantage of the lure of his talent... but if you lose, don't say you weren't forewarned...

[John]

First time I've seen this thread, but I'm not surprised by any of it! I'd say that 1 in 3 of my clients at present are Corey victims, I've heard some astonishing stories. I can't believe how much this kid has managed to get away with.

[Chris|vB]

Yaxay as a warning in the topic somethink about iNET payed for a custom design and never got it as you know iNET owns yaXay and wht and so many more

Ravio as gone bad check out they site all it has is a -

he will have a bad name for how long he use's his name ravio now

[AlexanderT]

After reading threads in various other boards, I agree it would be fatuous to do business with Ravio again.

Which IS sad! I have checked with numerous other custom designers (style3, insidethepixel, designdevise), but none fit my taste as well as Ravio did. A pity

[Alien]

He certainly screwed up big time with me personally as well.

I can't go into further details while I'm investigating legal action with my legal team.

[DTC]

Same here...we too were a Corey (Ravio) victim

I used his services for a couple of years...and during that time he would just disappear for what seemed like months...each time, new excuses....and like a knucklehead, I took him back time after time....Then in Aug 03, never heard from him since...We spent allot of moola with him...(thousands)...but that?s all water under the bridge now...Live and learn I guess...

I agree with dFrisk as all the signs do indeed point to substance abuse...get some moola and out on a binge .. probably in some crack house. Although I personally will never use his services again, I hope he does seek the help that he seems so desperately to need. Wish him the best...

For those that are seeking help, keep hunting and don't settle...there are plenty of qualified developers out there...some that have expertise in graphical design, others in php/mysql and VB...some with both skill sets (ideal). Keep looking, ask questions and get recommendations from others...They are out there!

The good news is a new developer is now on our team since December, John from Eovie....Great to be moving forward once again without the headaches that Corey caused us.

[midnightz]

I agree that sunstance abuse or Bing Cocaine use might be apparent. I get alot of people that have me fix his skins that are ridden with errors and I hated seeing people I knew that were ripped off. I personally have never met him, so I couldn't guess to many details, but I don't like the fact that people that put faith into people get ripped off. I am a professional designer and own a firm with many great designers and coders that are part of our group.

We went (and almost was successful) in taking vbskins from him and putting it to better use without the drama. I hope he does get his life together, but I think he has pretty much screwed the pooch on that one.

I finally decided after much debate a few months ago that I will be releasing a group of 4 skins to start with in the very near future. Its not even because we at the firm hurt for money, but the fact that there must be a better alternative for low cash users that can't afford a full custom skin from us at around $4000.00. But more importantly, karma and good business is the forefront of any successful venture.

Always deal with contracts that protect both the client and the designer and always insist on a contract if the amount is over $250.00 and require a 50% deposit to seal the deal... I hope if it is drug abiuse that somebody that gives a crap about him, would do a damn intervention.

I feel y'alls pain, it make us decent and karma concious designers get a bad rep. I know that there are mnay talented designers here, from designdevice to a few more.

midnightz

PS - Alien - I will be emailing you in a couple of days to get that thing together we talked about...

Peace all