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07-13-2002, 02:12 AM
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Essay on Making Hacks
When I first opened my message board, it was with UBB (this was in May 2000; I don't know if vBulletin was even around then). On Infopop's site, I read about the hacks that were available, and downloaded them, and installed them. I knew nothing at all about programming, but the hacks came with instructions that said exactly what to do. By knowing what the feature was that I was adding (the purpose of the hack), and by looking over the code that I was adding and replacing, I came to have a very basic understanding of how it all worked. I came up with some of my own ideas about new features or modifications, and realized that for much of what I wanted to do, I could find examples of similar things already in the code. Since I had already learned the basic idea of how it all worked, I was able to find the bit of code that worked the feature that was similar to what I wanted to do. By trial and error, I was able to learn more about the programming language, and was able to do bigger and better things. I don't believe I ever created any of my own hacks for UBB. I modified some of the existing features and modified some other hacks. But I didn't get more into making my own hacks until after switching to vBulletin. With the new language of the program itself, as well as the separate and different language of the database system, I had to begin anew. But again, as I installed others' vB hacks, I came to have a basic understanding of the new system, and I was once more learning my own tricks. My hacks, at first, were fairly simple, just doing basic things. As I created each one, and installed more and more from other fellow hackers, I learned more and more, and was able to do bigger, more complicated things. And I've never studied programming or taken any classes. I did buy a basic book on PHP, but to be honest, I never looked in it much. Aside from vBulletin itself, my greatest asset has probably been the PHP website (www.php.net), to use as a function and syntax reference. But, as I just indicated, my biggest resources in learning this has been vBulletin itself. I believe that anybody can install some of the hacks from other people here and use that experience to see how vB works. All you have to do is pay attention to what it is you're doing. Don't just blindly follow the directions; open your eyes and learn. Then, don't be afraid to try things yourself. Everything I learned I learned by trial and error. I learned how to install Windows after accidentally formatting my parents' hard drive.  (So make backups first!)So, don't be afraid to try things for yourself, and don't be afraid to ask for help. |
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#62
07-13-2002, 08:04 AM
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Wrong again.
Those rude 14 year olds are not the clients. It is there parents who have to shell out the money. If you think differently then tell me where it is legal for a boy or girl to actually work an honest job making money, and have the time to buy a bulletin board and still manage to find time to make "hacks" to flaunt around. I actually have no anger. No, not at all. Just a world of pity. Once a tall pillar to define what a hacking community should be throughout the net... has been tarnished by all these mucus sniffing, bugger eating rug rats looking to generate a quick plug. |
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#63
07-13-2002, 08:09 AM
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Powered by: vBulletin version 2.2.6, copyright ?2000 - 2002, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
This site is copyright ?2001 - 2002, vBulletin.org. All hacks are copyright their respective owners. All smilies are copyright ?2002, Dark Project Studios. Logo created by nakkid. All graphics created by Sinecure. Page generated in 1.06544399 seconds (7.92% PHP - 92.08% MySQL) with 24 queries. I wonder how much longer till this whole board caves in. [edit] And this was JUST on this page with ONLY 2 replies 
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#64
07-13-2002, 08:14 AM
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It's not legal for anyone under the age of 18 (in the USA) to own property, job or no job; property belongs to the parents.
Aside from that technicality, it's perfectly possible for a 14-yr. old to be a paying client. I had $160 to my own name when I was 14; I had a lot more than $160, actually. Most of it was inherited. I wasn't actually allowed by my parents to use that money, but someone else easily could have. It's also possible for 14-yr. old kids to get paying jobs; they are allowed to take some jobs. Then there are the "off the records" jobs that kids of all ages get, like mowing lawns and babysitting and stuff like that. Oh, and I can't believe I almost forgot the biggie: Allowance! I'm not getting myself involved in that part of the argument, I'm just pointing out that it's quite easy for lots of kids, of all ages, to have $160. Oh, and I think a lot of kids are quite good at programming. Shoot, I was taking computer classes after school in the first grade, way back in 1980 (Commodor 64); they weren't programming classes, but I'm sure they had them, too. I'm sure there are lots of 14-yr. old kids that are pretty good programmers. I'm sure there are even some that could write code circles around any of us here. They may not be here, but I'm sure they exist. |
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#65
07-13-2002, 09:09 AM
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Take the time to do a little research and find out an un-hacked vBulletin generates 24 queries on showthread as well, and that is without the tons of improvements we have here. I also don't know where you got the 1+ second statistic from, in the last 20 times I refreshed the page it only took around 0.51900399 seconds. It's very easy to criticize others and do nothing about it. I've seen you do nothing on this board other than putting down others. Surely some people don't act nice, you will find this anywhere you go in life. But what you do is generalizing almost 17,000 members on this board, placing them under that category, which is wrong. This is thread is older than me and most of the things that were said here are not relevant anymore. If you don't like one's hack, don't install. No one is forcing you. If you think you can do it better, do it. You talk so much, you must be one hell of a coder, huh! 
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#66
07-13-2002, 07:35 PM
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As a matter of fact,
(we) are. Trivaya and I are better known as Ace and Sara on OpenBB. Plans have already started on a follow up flag ship that will have faster loading times than the current Obb, and still retain all of the functionality of most modern bulletin boards to date. Load times on this new project are sub .01 with a simulated 1000 member sessions. You would be shocked to know what proper coding can achieve, pal. *Smirk* |
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#68
07-13-2002, 09:11 PM
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The loading times will also depend on a few other factors that you forgot to mention. Like the server setup, maybe, for one?
Also, good coders usually don't have to announce themseleves, unless they are trying to prove something to someone for some reason. *Smirk* back at ya. Quote:
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#69
07-13-2002, 09:23 PM
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It's so easy to say something like, "You would be shocked to know what proper coding can achieve, pal." Anyone can say something can be done better; few can actually show how to do it better. I suspect you're in the former category, not the latter. But prove me wrong. Why not give a few examples as to how the vBulletin code can be improved? I would suspect because you can't. I'm sure you would say that you don't have time to waste on proving yourself. People who can't put up always say things like that. I am not impressed by your smirk and your smug attitude. I'm sure you'll also say that you could not care less about me being impressed. But I think you do care about impressing people; that's why you came here, to make your bold claims and snide remarks: to impress people. Well, I'll be impressed by proof and results. I, for one, say it's time to put up, or get the hell out.
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#70
07-13-2002, 09:41 PM
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That should be "put up or shut up", but "get the hell out" actually says it more clearly.
Good one, JJR512. Quote:
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