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lasto · #61 06-23-2009, 08:16 AM

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggg we all doomed

well not exactly but what ever happens,happens,simple as.Nothing us poor customers can do about it.Im actually amazed we getting away with even discussing it on this site.

Shelley_c · #62 06-23-2009, 09:26 AM

It's a topic that people wish to discuss (there's no reason for this to be closed). It's well within a persons right to speculate/discuss about the future of vbulletin and the direction it will take. With that said, I still believe myself it will remain the no1 forum script and moving onto free or other paid alternatives will merely be a downgrade.

My 2 sites are merely hobby based so whatever direction vbulletin goes won't concern me in the slightest. And, if vb4.0 isn't what I expect or need I'll remain using 3.8.

Regarding Floris thread (on the webmaster forum) clearly it showed there were issues and we can only guess the same with the rest of the teams departure (as I suspected).

Hi there Lasto.

Marco van Herwaarden · #63 06-23-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BSMedia

Well everyone knows Floris stepped down due to IB changing his contract and what seems like not supporting/caring about his medical condition. That seemed to start the avalanche of just about every non-US based Jelsoft employee leaving rather soon behind him.

Please read that post by floris again. He nowhere states that IB was unwilling to change his contract or respect his medical condition. This was not the issue, and it is useless to debate the reason why other people made a decission if the person is not around to clarify his thoughts. This is all pure speculation.

As for the reasons why others left, they have nothing to do with the decission Floris has made.

Shelley_c · #64 06-23-2009, 10:33 AM

Floris isn't here and would not come here to clarify, elaborate on his thoughts. But as a staff member of jelsoft marco, your position is to bring a certain comfort to customers and keep the concern level down to a minimum. To repeat what I said, it's quite well within the customers right to discuss and speculate on the future of vbulletin (with many customers) investing in many licenses they have money tied up on a forum software they have shown dedication and support to for more than a decade, If they didn't speculate then something would be wrong.

Last time I checked (and I do check daily), money doesn't grow on trees and many customers have got vast amounts of cash invested in a forum software they are now showing concerns about and the direction things are taking.

Marco van Herwaarden · #65 06-23-2009, 10:48 AM

Yes floris is not here to post his view, hence why speculating on his reasons is useless.

Yes you can debate the future of vB/Jelsoft, but discussing the reasons why a member of staff made a decission is useless as this was a personal decission. Furthermore discussions on vB.com/Jelsoft staff belongs on vB.com, not here where nobody of the people discussed is visiting.

Shelley_c · #66 06-23-2009, 10:50 AM

I'll repeat what I said again marco. Floris will not visit here to clarify/discuss/elborate on his departure.

Marco van Herwaarden · #67 06-23-2009, 11:11 AM

Hence it serves no point in speculating here about his reasons.

Shelley_c · #68 06-23-2009, 11:22 AM

The whole topic is mainly about the future of vbulletin marco (please try and read that part). The floris speculation is just a miner part of this discussion (not something you should concern yourself about, Unless you are concerned). As useless as it maybe to speculate, it's within the rights of the customers to discuss this. And to elaborate further marco, Kiers departure is a case for concern (not for me) but for some customers. He was lead developer for a long time and the future now lies in the hands of another coder(s), so people (cannot repeat this enough) have a right to be concerned. They want a level of comfort (something unfortunately you cannot provide) knowing that the hands of vbulletin is indeed in the right hands and the future looks bright.

smacklan · #69 06-23-2009, 12:29 PM

I personally try not to worry about things I have no control over. While it is disconcerting that so many of the original developers have left and I will miss them and their fingerprints on the product, I'm not too worried about the future. I hope I'm not mistaken, but I just find it hard to believe IB would spend the money they spent to purchase Jelsoft only to kill it intentionally. Will it be the same company/product it was?...probably not. Will it be worse or better?...time will tell. It is not uncommon in all types of business to see these kinds of staffing changes when a company is bought out, that I do know.

TNCclubman · #70 06-23-2009, 01:00 PM

This IB buying vB is starting to look like Vince McMahon buying WCW only to bury it.

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