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Old 08-30-2005, 11:20 PM
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People really shouldn't use XHTML compliancy as an excuse to raise the price, once you learn the few (yes few) differences between HTML and XHTML, it is jsut as easy, and takes no more time (assuming you know what your doing, and if you don't, you shouldn't be doing this!)

I find it rude to argue about someones price, if they feel that is what it's worth and you disagree, just look elsewhere. Even if they are totally wrong, let them find out themself, they won't get any customers. If they do, they must be doing something right, and you shouldn't be criticizing them. Although I'm not a designer, I would say it would really hurt for someone to say my work isn't worth what I am asking.

Anyway, give the designers some slack, but don't let them rip you off.

A great alternative is contests for forum skins on your board! It's not that hard to convert a PSD to a template, and IMO it has worked out great at my board (3-4 times).

Thats why, I havent said any names as in talking-bad about anyone, I love all custom skins ..especially for someone who doesnt have one. I am just expressing my personal opinion, like I have the right to do .



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Old 09-30-2005, 02:32 PM
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I also paid 1800.00 up front for a custom design through vbcore which was a 60% down payment for a custom design. I stated I wanted the best design w/ flash possible. I have had a hard time with communication with him. It has now been almost 5 months and the rough draft has been completed for the most part but nothing further is being done. There is always an excuse why he hasn't been able to do anything else. If i ask for certain changes especially after paying that amount of cash he refuses to make any further changes. I have asked him to code the design what he has so far a month ago and I have still yet to see any work or design being coded.

I felt good when I spoke with him in the beginning about the design work, especially b/c he had a good record with all the work he has done, but this has been a horrible experience for me. Especially after already having a bad experience with another designer dameon with insidethepixel.com

I really hope he can correct himself and these issues with his customers. I think he would have good potential if he would learn to do things in a timely manner and respond to emails more than once a week or two weeks.

Sorry for anyone else that has had a bad experience with him, I understand what u are going through.
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Old 09-30-2005, 03:31 PM
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I also paid 1800.00 up front for a custom design through vbcore which was a 60% down payment for a custom design. I stated I wanted the best design w/ flash possible. I have had a hard time with communication with him. It has now been almost 5 months and the rough draft has been completed for the most part but nothing further is being done. There is always an excuse why he hasn't been able to do anything else. If i ask for certain changes especially after paying that amount of cash he refuses to make any further changes. I have asked him to code the design what he has so far a month ago and I have still yet to see any work or design being coded.

I felt good when I spoke with him in the beginning about the design work, especially b/c he had a good record with all the work he has done, but this has been a horrible experience for me. Especially after already having a bad experience with another designer dameon with insidethepixel.com

I really hope he can correct himself and these issues with his customers. I think he would have good potential if he would learn to do things in a timely manner and respond to emails more than once a week or two weeks.

Sorry for anyone else that has had a bad experience with him, I understand what u are going through.
I know exactly what you are going through. I had the same bad expericene probability with Dameon White who owned/ran insidethepixel.com. But yeah everything you had said almost word for word the same experience. Kolby is the guy who owns vbcore and yes he has the potential if he would do things in a timely manner. I doubt anything is going to change.

And by the way if you decide to get a refund he won't give it to you. I asked for one and this is what I told from him. When you submit a request a quote for a design and pay any money that you are agreeing to the Terms Of Services on his site which states.

"Once the client has sent any money, there will be no refunds at all. If the customer fails to communicate with vBCore after 2 weeks the contract is considered VOID, vBCore will go out of our way to try and get in touch with you, if you fail to respond the contract is considered VOID and there will be no refunds. All clients, have the right to request a deadline. However, we will give you an approximate or estimated time before completion. If for any reason, the time has passed or can not be met, you will be notified, however there will be no refunds, or money back. We do not offer any guarantees on completions or deadlines. "

So basically two things are going to happen. One you get the design but alot of time has gone by or two you won't get a design and no refund because you agreed to his TOS and/or posted a message stating how unhappy you are. This is what happend to me so...

So I think the more and more people come out and tell everybody else what your experience the better chance we help other people from losing money.


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Old 09-30-2005, 06:40 PM
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Bloody Nora...some of the prices you fellas pay...

Here have a design i completed last night
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=97196

Price : FREE
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:20 PM
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Bloody Nora...some of the prices you fellas pay...

Here have a design i completed last night
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=97196

Price : FREE
Very nice mate, you should sell them for cheap ?5 or ?10 for quick cash. There well worth it.
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:49 PM
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Sam, you don't learn, yet everyday I get emails from you saying that you love the skin and you cant wait for it to be completed, and that you are very happy with everything that is going on, but you continue to post here talking trash. Very interesting.

Brandon (TexasATV) I have explained to you the current situation and you replied to the email saying "Ok no problem, be safe and I would like to hear from you soon" I emailed you and I have had not heard from you until today VIA this post. Your skin design is complete, and is now in the coding phase, which is about 95% done being coded. Again, you failed to understand that you wanted this for vB3.5 and that I wasnt going to start to code it until Gold was released (It was released a couple of days ago) and your skin is already almost done.

For those of you interested in seeing the skin, it can be viewed here http://vbcore.com/images/txatv3-5-5.jpg. That is the static preview without flash and what not.

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Old 09-30-2005, 09:08 PM
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I can't speak to others experiences, only my own with vBCore. I have done alot of business with him and have had nothing but great communication and results! I'm a very happy customer. Just my personal perspective.
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:10 PM
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Sam, you don't learn, yet everyday I get emails from you saying that you love the skin and you cant wait for it to be completed, and that you are very happy with everything that is going on, but you continue to post here talking trash. Very interesting.

Brandon (TexasATV) I have explained to you the current situation and you replied to the email saying "Ok no problem, be safe and I would like to hear from you soon" I emailed you and I have had not heard from you until today VIA this post. Your skin design is complete, and is now in the coding phase, which is about 95% done being coded. Again, you failed to understand that you wanted this for vB3.5 and that I wasnt going to start to code it until Gold was released (It was released a couple of days ago) and your skin is already almost done.

For those of you interested in seeing the skin, it can be viewed here http://vbcore.com/images/txatv3-5-5.jpg. That is the static preview without flash and what not.

-vBCore
Well he a good point also, for the sake of the customer it was better that he gave it him for vB GOLD and not an RC version (just incase). Ah, these these young ones need to be more patient. :banana:
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:14 PM
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Sam, you don't learn, yet everyday I get emails from you saying that you love the skin and you cant wait for it to be completed, and that you are very happy with everything that is going on, but you continue to post here talking trash. Very interesting.

Brandon (TexasATV) I have explained to you the current situation and you replied to the email saying "Ok no problem, be safe and I would like to hear from you soon" I emailed you and I have had not heard from you until today VIA this post. Your skin design is complete, and is now in the coding phase, which is about 95% done being coded. Again, you failed to understand that you wanted this for vB3.5 and that I wasnt going to start to code it until Gold was released (It was released a couple of days ago) and your skin is already almost done.

For those of you interested in seeing the skin, it can be viewed here http://vbcore.com/images/txatv3-5-5.jpg. That is the static preview without flash and what not.

-vBCore
That is a lie I haven't sent you emails....I can't remember the last time I even did. Second off I am not happy with the whole process I have been pissed off about everything not the design but the whole process of treating me like a second class citizen. Do like the skin but since it isn't complete again I don't like the process of how I am being treated.

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Well he a good point also, for the sake of the customer it was better that he gave it him for vB GOLD and not an RC version (just incase). Ah, these these young ones need to be more patient. :banana:
First sorry for being blunt but you don't dog in this race about telling me to be patience. Because when 6 months roll by and nothing seems to be progressing after you pay some big bucks. So please come to talk to me only after you have walked in my shoes. That is just my opinion nor I wanting to start a fight here just a disagreement in opinions. But sometime you have to bring it to the public to get something resolve or get people opinion on where to go from here.


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Old 09-30-2005, 09:38 PM
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well look at your skins, nobody should pay for one.
dude your idiot his styles are nice i dont know about some crazy ass prices for them but there definetly good quality
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