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Hellraider · #51 03-19-2005, 01:32 PM

This is a question of fairness and ethics

(Now it is getting deeper . . .

)

Linking directly to files on other's webspace is also known as traffic theft. I don't think that this is what vb.org wants us to do. vbhacks-germany don't want to "work" against vb.org. We want to work WITH vb.org and FOR the (especially non english-speaking part of the) german community.

If linking directly to files within the vb.org webspace is OK for the vb.org team then we will think of it. But there has to be a word from the vb.org team itself about the direct linking.

Normally you link to a thread with a file to download (to give credits to the hack author) and not directly to a file. And this is (the first point I mentioned

) what we don't want to force our non-english-speaking users to: Reading a thread they don't understand.

Dean C · #52 03-19-2005, 01:45 PM

There's no harm linking to a file at all, because only licensed users can download them.

Deaths · #53 03-19-2005, 01:50 PM

I think that's the part which the coder doesn't like.

A direct link to the file would mean that a lot of people will just download it without clicking install!

Hellraider · #54 03-19-2005, 02:29 PM

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There's no harm linking to a file at all, because only licensed users can download them.

That doesn't count for vb.org or against vbhacks-germany

We also give support only to licensed users which are validated through the official licence validation (see above).

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A direct link to the file would mean that a lot of people will just download it without clicking install!

Where is the difference between vb.org? Here you can also download a hack without having to click on "Install"

Also no point for vb.org or against vbhacks-germany.

eva01_ · #55 03-19-2005, 02:40 PM

i believe they can download it here and translated there still.

but still my thoughts on support, you cannot support a hack nearly well enough as the creator can, so what happens if one of your members comes into trouble and you can't help them and the creator doesn't know german?

are you just going to be the middle man?

i think you will be doing A LOT of that, and you will be sick and tired of it within a month.

Zachery · #56 03-19-2005, 03:30 PM

Hellraider,

The problem is in the past, alot of other people (I won't be specific here) have stolen code and repulished it at their own on varius vBulletin fan sites.

This has done nothing but put a bad taste in our mouth so far.

And it seems to me that you are burning a path to your goal at the moment without stoping to care who that fire might hit.

Yes, we might be stuborn but it comes from being burned a few too many times before.

Deaths · #57 03-19-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellraider

That doesn't count for vb.org or against vbhacks-germany

We also give support only to licensed users which are validated through the official licence validation (see above).

Where is the difference between vb.org? Here you can also download a hack without having to click on "Install"

Also no point for vb.org or against vbhacks-germany.

If you provide a direct link to the file, 9 out of 10 users downloading the file wouldn't even know of the existance of the install button

.

Hellraider · #58 03-19-2005, 03:53 PM

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but still my thoughts on support, you cannot support a hack nearly well enough as the creator can, so what happens if one of your members comes into trouble and you can't help them and the creator doesn't know german?

Supporting english hacks without the author is still done @ vb-germany.com and this is done nearly perfect (especially Mystics has to be named here) with no open questions. I don't see a problem with that point.

But vbulletin.com (like vb-germany.com) does not give offical hack-support, and so vb.org had been started as a platform to release and support (english) hacks.

So we try to start a german hack-support-community for the (only) german speaking part of the world . . .

@eva01_:
If a hack isn't supported by the author: Do you think this hack is installed by users or users are interested at an unsupported hack? When the hack runs fine there will be no problem (since new vB versions are running

) Maybe in the first time this is OK, but when there are troubles (and there are nearly everytime troubles, because no installation of vB looks like the other; why do you think there are so many support threads here on vb.org where users getting into trouble with hacks?) with the hack and the author can't or woun't support his own hacks. I don't think that users are interested in new hacks from this author in the future.

vbhacks-germany is building a bridge (as you mentioned) between an (only english or not german speaking) author and the (only) german speaking part of the world.

Main advantages for the author:

- more popularity
- more credits

eva01_ · #59 03-19-2005, 04:03 PM

maybe then as you want to build a bridge.

the best way to start building the bridge. is not to create an entirely new website, but to ask Xenon to create a German support forum on vbulletin.org.

i think we have come to a revelation here

<< all thanks to my genius bwahaha

Dean C · #60 03-19-2005, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva01_

maybe then as you want to build a bridge.

the best way to start building the bridge. is not to create an entirely new website, but to ask Xenon to create a German support forum on vbulletin.org.

i think we have come to a revelation here

<< all thanks to my genius bwahaha

The problem with that is moderation...

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