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#51
04-20-2002, 07:26 AM
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 ).I can not really pin-point one hacker or person that has helped me out more than the other - bascially everything is equal in my line of sight. As said above, vBulletin.org is what you make of it, if you come off as a rude and hateful person, no one is going to want to help you, more over flame you. If you are respectful of others, you are more likely to get the help you need. Sometimes you will not get help, but that is life, you will not get everything you want. - SaintDog |
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#52
04-20-2002, 05:17 PM
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Ok, I haven't read this entire post even though I probably should have, but my thought on selling hacks: I find that, like others have said, is just 'kids' trying to make a quick buck. I do this because I find it exciting, and I hope others feel the same way.
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#53
04-21-2002, 03:49 AM
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Hell, there's not enough money to be made in providing general hacks for a fee. You drive off too many people with the prospect of paying extra for a little added feature. I can understand someone who invests their time and energy into a custom project -- at someone's request -- and asks for compensation. But I also think it's repulsive when someone posts a request and the immediate response is "I'll do it for $30". MORE IRRITATING is when someone posts that they're working on a hack, and the Gimme-Gimmes come slithering out of the woodwork to demand its release with their cries of "Why isn't it done?" and "You suck." |
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#54
04-23-2002, 03:51 AM
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I myself just mostly come here and download the great hacks you people make. I dont associate unless necessary because there is a little stinch in the air. I just came from looking at the Shoutbox thread and there are bits and pieces of that hack everywhere. The first post doesn't say whether its been updated. Can't we all just get along? LOL .. I've learned since coming here to read everypost in every thread pertaining to hacks. I see a lot of questions asked 2 or 3 times one right after the other. Maybe a set of rules that newcomers should read with instructions:
If the same question is posted by someone else already do not post the question again. Please read the entire thread before posting any questions or comments. That Shoutbox thread is a mess though! It would be nice if the first post of every thread could be updated with the current working version when fixes are made. Figuring out what files to download can be a chore in itself. To all you hackers though, you are appreciated by the majority of us.
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#55
05-08-2002, 05:46 AM
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Using my position to make money from something that is free? Well what "position" you are refering to I have no idea. It's ok to put tons of hours into a design and sell it, but once that design "can" be used for vBulletin it should now be "Free"? I released a Christmas style for free for everyone to use, and that was my contribution. I also posted template modifying tips etc. I sell one Style and all of a sudden your portarying me as someone who only does it for the money? I take these comments quite personally. Maybe take a look at all the things I've done for the community, rather than just that 1 xbox style I sold. How many button sets to do I have avaiable for people to download? Do you know how many hours I put into those button sets so people can use? A lot more than you'd think. |
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#56
05-08-2002, 12:18 PM
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I agree with you there Sinecure, I can't say that I have seen you advertising anything on these forums other than stuff that is free. I am also fed up of everyone expecting to get everything for free, why should people like Sinecure and c-pr0mpt work for hours creating styles, buttons and graphics for everyone else to use.
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#57
07-11-2002, 10:52 PM
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I agree 100% with Freddie. This site is completely out of hand. I think the underlying problem here, is the fact that there are gobs of 14-15yr olds with growing egos on a quest to showcase. Take afterlab for example... That kid is continuously dangling his "innovations" in front of everyone's face. Newbies are met with a shrug-off attitude, and this seems to be more a source of competitive resource, than helpful resource.
On the commercial side.. I think the idea of selling hacks is ridiculous, and that's not what a "community" is all about. You could say "I'm supposed to put hours and hours into something to give it away for free?" No, you're not.. the simple solution is, don't make it in the first place, you greedy jerk.. but don't come showcasing your crap, and dangling it in the eyes of others either. Speaking as a professional developer, I can say that most of the hacks found on here aren't anywhere near the level of being labeled "commercial worthy." These kids need to learn proper usage of queries, and explore table joins versus queries in while loops. I've seen some of these hacks in action, and there's no excuse in the world for 1+sec exec times, with 60+ queries. |
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#58
07-12-2002, 04:31 AM
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you will not get help from alot of people because not alot of people know well php. take a look at me. i'm a novice in php but still try to help as much as i can. since dec 2001, i didnt see alot people laughing at newbies... only few and there is no need to name them. pointing fingers at people here will not make you feel better, but exacly the opposite. you never know when it comes that day when that 'named' person will help you and you will feel bad for judging him fast. |
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#59
07-12-2002, 08:27 PM
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I think it is you who is missing the point.
What ever vB.org may have been in the past, it sure as hell is not like that now. Now all I see are 14 year old kiddies who run around posting about the so called modifications they have made while making empty promises to release them as a ploy to generate traffic to his or her site. Most noticeably are the kids who own Final Fantasy sites. God as if we didn't have enough of them already. They latch onto an idea, make it and then go around telling others they will give it away at "some point" but to go to the site and see it working anyway. They need these types of cyber crutches in order to stand above the rest, and get mad as sin when someone else does similar. I say so called "hacks" because adding to vB is not hacking my any means. Looking around at all these lame "hacks" has taught me that it requires next to no skill. All one has to do is add about 80 new profile fields and then BLAMO, instant "hack." vB is slow / cumbersome as it is, and they go and turn it into a 230 query, 2.000 second loading monstrosity that will surely upset the hosting provider if kept up. Not surprising seeing as how most of them cant even spell, let alone code proper syntax. Bottom line, if you are here to promote your crap FF site with your proposed "hack" then stay the hell away and don't complain when people become frustrated with your empty promise. |
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#60
07-13-2002, 01:07 AM
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i'm not trying to be rude but those 14years old kids are clients after all. most of them paid $160 for support. so what if they release poor hacks? the people who know about coding will always have a word to say... and point out the errors.
look at me, i'm really glad that firefly is reading all my posts and looks into my hacks. how many time he didnt find errors? many times... and he told me also how to correct them. i read an adversity onto your post and i dont know where is comming from all this anger. if you are a better then those 14years old kids, start by talking decent here. if not hard to be polite in a public place and it brings you only good in life... btw, i'm 33years old, if that makes any difference to you and i dont have a FF site. |
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