vBulletin Suite vs. vBulletin

[gamerfu]

Originally Posted by Boosted Panda

No but Apple offers Leopard owners Snow Leopard for next to nothing

You forget Apple Leopard OS cost more than Microsoft Windows OS or any Linux distro.

[Boosted Panda]

Originally Posted by gamerfu

You forget Apple Leopard OS cost more than Microsoft Windows OS or any Linux distro.

Leopard is $129.

Windows XP Professional is $199.

[wildweaselmi]

I always have to support streamlining but I am a bit worried about the CMS being included. I prefer using Joomla as my CMS as it is (in my opinion) the strongest CMS on the web. I utilize JFusion to sync users from vBulletin to Joomla so my users are logged into both no matter which login module they use (joomla or VB). Now with VB having there own CMS bundled in I sure hope it doesn't break my Joomla connection.

As for the Windows versus Apple debate, my two cents on the subject and I use both.

Apple machines cost more but they last longer (no squeaks, crashes, overheating, requirements changing for new operating systems) so quality versus quantity.

Apple Operating System cost compared to Windows is really a question on which version of Windows are you comparing it to. Unlike Windows, you buy the Apple operating system and you have everything you need. With Windows, you have to pay a whole lot of money for the Premium package which compares to Apple with iLife or you buy the basic version which is a tad less expensive then the Apple OS but you don't have anything.

Some comparisons found here between what you get with Windows versus Apple

Of course I prefer Apple Mac OS X because it doesn't crash, no spamware, adware, and few viruses which equals a faster running operating system built on a unix (linux-debian) operating system which is the same O.S. as what we used in the Air Force to maintain our most secure and most reliable network for the Armed Forces Globally. Windows machines had very little responsibility because they were and are not trustworthy on staying operational 100% like we found with linux,unix and apple.

[Brandon Sheley]

I'll say the same thing I said on my site and vb.com
I purchased the vblog and it looks like I wasted my money on it
I'll never use the pos project tools, or their cms and now if I want to upgrade the blog, I'll have to pay for those worthless scripts

well, it looks like I'll never upgrade the blog

what a shame, bad move IB #epicfail

[wildweaselmi]

I am hoping the vblog will improve (hopefully dramatically) in version 4. The current version 3 is a first step towards something greater.

I'm not sure if it will better but I am sure hoping it is. The current version is so clumsy and difficult to use but I love the idea of using a blog with vbulletin.

MyBlog component in Joomla is soooo much better and is a desire to reach something like wordpress or blogspot or like the many CMS components and modules out there that show you what a blog should be able to do.

I'm not giving up on vblog but I am really hoping for a better vblog in version 4.

I agree projects is a waste of my money. I would be surprised to see many people use this. Currently projects appears to be focused on code versus actual Projects. Again, if it followed a leader of Project software like Microsoft Project or even a more powerful Merlin application.

[cheat-master30]

Originally Posted by Black Tiger

I'm not in panic or whatever, I'm just worried as hell that Jelsoft is going down the drain.
I already said that to me there was no problem if there still would be a vb4 only forum option. I'll just go on with that.
I'm just pissed at the way things are going now, also for people who already have bought the addons. It doesn't matter to me that I don't have them. I'm pissed about how they are handling their clients. And worried about the effects of that.

There is a vBulletin 4 forum only option. That's the non suite version of vBulletin 4.

[Black Tiger]

Yes I know that, but that doesn't change things about how they are handling their other clients who bought the addons, and the lack of communication.

[smartkidbk5]

Sorry I tried to read the posts but couldnt find a solid answer. I get how they are bundling it now, but...

Will I have to buy vB4 now? Even though I have a currently active license witch entitles me for free vB updates for 1 year?

[webuser00]

I think this is a good move for vB!

cheers

[Trip]

Originally Posted by smartkidbk5

Sorry I tried to read the posts but couldnt find a solid answer. I get how they are bundling it now, but...

Will I have to buy vB4 now? Even though I have a currently active license witch entitles me for free vB updates for 1 year?

That seems to be the million dollar question. I don't believe anything official has been announced. From what I've read and pieced together it looks like if you want to upgrade to 4.0 you will have to shell out some cash. How much remains to be seen. Looks like vB is doing away w/the leased licenses too. Only offering an owned license in either "forum only" or "suite" (forum, tools, blog, CMS) form. Again, this is just what I've read and may not be at all true. But I think if you wanted to ride out 3.8.3 for awhile without upgrading to 4.0 you should be able to do so without any additional cost (imo).