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Old 08-11-2009, 05:56 PM
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so it seems this site has some users they don't care about and some they do
I got an infraction after a one day notice of my sig links being more than 2, yet I've seen several users who have 4 or 6 external sig links and no one seems to care
I've reported a few users and I know they have been around & posted, yet the links are still pointing to their sales pages

so why do some users get several external links and some get punished for having more then 2??

and ps, before another remark like Lynne's come up, explain why someone ppl have staff all up in their businesses, yet others seem to do whatever they want..
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:14 PM
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The current rules state that a user may have links to two external sites. Sometimes a user has three links, but they are to the same external site, so that is fine.... *currently*. The signature rules are probably going to change to limit the total number of links Period, but currently total links are not in the rules.

Also, the rules state that there should be no promotional language and that Staff will ultimately determine if a signature is fine.
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:32 PM
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The current rules state that a user may have links to two external sites. Sometimes a user has three links, but they are to the same external site, so that is fine.... *currently*. The signature rules are probably going to change to limit the total number of links Period, but currently total links are not in the rules.

Also, the rules state that there should be no promotional language and that Staff will ultimately determine if a signature is fine.
Hello Lynne,
Thanks for replying,

This is the exact rule, it says nothing about 3 links if they are to the same site.

# No signatures may have more than 2 external links - otherwise it will be considered as SPAM.

I think you know the user I'm talking about, if you see the reported post.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/member.php?u=57621
(sry Gio, nothing personal, there are several other examples)
I reported his post MONTHS ago, and yet he still has more then 2 links (as per the rules)

Why does he get away with it, yet I got an infraction with a one day notice?

All I ask is that we are treated fairly, I could really care less if I have any links out, but if you're (staff) going to punish one person for breaking the rules (which were made after my infraction btw) then the same rules must apply to all.

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Old 08-11-2009, 07:08 PM
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lol Brandon - I got into yet another argument with Paul who had just battled a dinasour, all because you realize you have a bit too many links? I honestly would have never expected it was you but ok.

First off, I was contacted as well for both my links and "promotional line". I changed my line and removed a link, and brought it down to 4, all pointing to one site - hence why I am now in the clear. You have 3 links pointing to 2 different websites and a banner mind you.

I also don't remember having that many links months ago, especially since ProvB Listings wasn't released months ago but ok. I understand your issues with the rules, you're not the only victim - I had to change a few threads as well as my signature but um, it's going to be fun when they look over this thread and only limit us further, proving your post to be 100% insignificant especially considering the extent of your signature.

Lets see where this goes.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:24 PM
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ps.. I have 2 links.. the banner and first set of anchor text are all under one link. (which btw I had checked with Paul before adding the banner to make sure it was ok)
You have 4 links to different pages..

and I don't really care, it's the principle of the matter
the rules say 2 links so that's what they should be
like I said, it wasn't anything personal towards you, there are many others with more than 2 links I was just using your profile as an example.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:26 PM
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Well then in that case, it's still 2 websites. And the pages doesn't matter Brandon, it's the website itself - we both know that. I understand you are frustrated but I can assure you this is going nowhere but down for the both of us if everyone continues to complain - hence why i dropped the argument myself.

In addition, I'm in the clear based on what I was instructed via pm and the following quoted message below. I suggest you place yourself there as well and we both continue doing what we're actually here to do.

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The current rules state that a user may have links to two external sites. Sometimes a user has three links, but they are to the same external site, so that is fine.... *currently*. The signature rules are probably going to change to limit the total number of links Period, but currently total links are not in the rules.

Also, the rules state that there should be no promotional language and that Staff will ultimately determine if a signature is fine.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:29 PM
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These are the Sig rules

Signature Rules
  1. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not.
  2. No signatures may include a message intending to disrupt the peace and harmony of this board.
  3. No signatures may include text or images that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, and/or otherwise violates of any local or international laws.
  4. No signatures may have promotional language* or offers for paid services. You may include a link (no text) to a page offering paid services.
  5. Links to your site are fine unless your site violates the terms of service for Jelsoft. A site name with a link to the main index page or forum page is all that is needed.
  6. No signatures may have more than 2 external links - otherwise it will be considered as SPAM.
*promotional language - verbiage trying to convince readers to visit your site(s)



Which apparently need edited
I don't see anything that says we can have multiple links if they are from the same site
If so, it looks like I can add more links to my site, as long as all links are to the same URL

ps.. it doesn't look like the right hand knows what the left hand is doing.

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The current rules state that a user may have links to two external sites. Sometimes a user has three links, but they are to the same external site, so that is fine.... *currently*. The signature rules are probably going to change to limit the total number of links Period, but currently total links are not in the rules.

Also, the rules state that there should be no promotional language and that Staff will ultimately determine if a signature is fine.
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob & Billys Views
Bob says:
****, the longer that thread goes on the chances are they will amend those rules and stick it right up our arses
Billy says:
What does he think, they're gonna say "Ok lets make it 5 links guys"
There clearly is no Bob & Billy, but with that being said, let me be the first to sincerely kiss some ass and hope that we're not further limited after all the arguing.

The reason Lynne's theory works is simple. We've spent years arguing that we should be allowed to show off our services since we offer them for free on here. Because of that, they are trying to be somewhat reasonable. I believe a limit on the amount of unique sites will serve us well, something like 1 website with 4-5 links or 2 websites with 2-3 links I think would be reasonable. I think what really irritates them is the banner + link in your face combo, although I'm sure you have good intentions Brandon.

I argued with a cop the other day who thought I had robbed a house and tore my car apart only to find nothing. After arguing with him he gave me 3 tickets instead - lets all calm down before the same happens here.
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:56 PM
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I'm just going by the rules
if they didn't want the banner (which I just recently added, after I asked Paul) they should add that restriction to the rules.

so I guess we can have 4 links to the same site, even tho the rules clearly states that isn't allowed
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:20 PM
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I never even noticed the "2 external links only" rule (I was away for 2 years afterall).. I've had 3 for a couple of weeks .

Ammended my sig to comply, even if I do think it's a bit daft.
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