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Lizard King · #51 01-09-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

Did you look at the percentage? We take 0.0% percent of the revenue you generate. However if you generate money in the first 180 days, then Google pays us a fee. That is all we get out of it.

By the way, any website owner can implement the same thing on their site using the Adsense API. It isn't a special deal between Google and vBulletin.

Yes , any website owner can do that but you are missing the important point Wayne.

Internet Brands own vBulletin , Internet Brands are competitor of many vBulletin customers.

Internet Brands include a new option to vBulletin , which will allow them to track customers adsense statistics and they never care to inform their customers about this important part at all. Which is a very important privacy problem.

Wayne Luke · #52 01-09-2009, 09:53 PM

I am not missing any point.

Its an OPT-IN program. If you feel that there is not enough information than do not opt-in. It really is as simple as that. It isn't required to associate a Google Publisher ID to use vBulletin 3.8.0. The functionality isn't even included unless you opt-in before downloading. You still have complete control over your own Google Account and you can Opt-Out at any time.

By choosing to associate your account, data is only shared based on what Google provides under their privacy policy. Which is agreed to when someone signs up for that program. You can re-read it here:
http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html

Google still controls all the data about your account. If you Opt-in then you agree to share it.

You make it sound like you can't even use vBulletin 3.8.0 unless we get your publisher ID. Even if you gave it, you still have control over it and it isn't associated until you give vBulletin.com access through your Adsense account manager.

puertoblack2003 · #53 01-09-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

Did you look at the percentage? We take 0.0% percent of the revenue you generate. However if you generate money in the first 180 days, then Google pays us a fee. That is all we get out of it.

By the way, any website owner can implement the same thing on their site using the Adsense API. It isn't a special deal between Google and vBulletin.

yep, i did see the percentage! it's a new account that i created, but my thing is after the site start generating revenue, then vb gets whatever percentage it was agreed upon or however that works.And that's my issue...:down:

Wayne Luke · #54 01-09-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by puertoblack2003

yep, i did see the percentage! it's a new account that i created, but my thing is after the site start generating revenue, then vb gets whatever percentage it was agreed upon or however that works.And that's my issue...:down:

Yeah.. the agreed upon percentage is what is being shown to you. Not what has been earned to date.

In return for you opening an Adsense account through vBulletin.com we agree that revenue should be shared with 100% going to the website owner and 0.0% going to Jelsoft. In return, Google agrees to pay us a referrer fee based on the amount of money you make in the first 180 days. This fee ranges between $5.00 and $250.00 per customer that opens an account. At no time do we take any of the actual adsense revenue that you accrue.

This is actually specified on the Google Adsense page within the member's area when you go to create a new account or associate an existing one.

#55 01-09-2009, 10:04 PM

the point is not the %... if Jelsoft want to receive 1% of the revenues, or 10, they can change the deal... actually if it would've been announced that "FOR THE DEAL, JELSOFT will receive 1% of your own revenues as a deal with Google" i would be ok with that... the point is not the %, but the tracking of information, InternetBRAND will receive... not Jelsoft -- which is now a slave to IB, something i do not care either...

Wayne Luke · #56 01-09-2009, 10:10 PM

Then don't use the integrated Adsense... It is as simple as that. Go to Google.com and create your own Adsense account and copy and paste the code that Google gives you into Advertising templates.

Lizard King · #57 01-09-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

Then don't use the integrated Adsense... It is as simple as that. Go to Google.com and create your own Adsense account and copy and paste the code that Google gives you into Advertising templates.

Wayne ,

Why not all these key privacy information not made into announcement ? This is my main concern.

If nobody will noticed it , you had no intention to inform your customers. Thats not the correct way to deal with your customers and Jelsoft never acted like this in past.

#58 01-09-2009, 10:20 PM

Tell us if you need a Public Relation consultant, i'm all up for the task... ROFL!

/me runs behind Mert to be protected from any projectile coming from the Jelsoft HQ!

Wayne Luke · #59 01-09-2009, 10:21 PM

Because the privacy of the Adsense account is controlled by Google and your Adsense Account manager. You would have to ask them what information they share with referring websites. Looking at the Adsense API, it isn't much. We can tell how much revenue your ads make when they are placed on our websites. That is about it.

Anyway, I am done as everything is laid out in the agreements when you sign up. Need more information then you can contact the main offices of Jelsoft.

Reeve of shinra · #60 01-09-2009, 11:10 PM

I agree this is borderline sleezy

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